Which you can't if the armor in question arbitarily changes form when you put it on. Get it?

As I stated on the other thread, as long as the armor stays a full plate (like on males), and having the boob slot and adjust it to the silhouette of the female body, im fine with that.

No need for the same briastplate on a male cover up everything and on females have 2 pieces of plate and a bra that holds huge boobs, keep it as realistic as possible, but leaving room for the "fantasy" as well.

Its like discussing the effects of alcohol, its bad, no matter how much you drink, its bad, but in moderation, everyone enjoys it. Same here. Moderation.

I just love those time when an idiot comes along and spreads his views.

Kidding.

I just love it when someone comes along and puts your exact views forward in a well constructed average long text so I wont have to myself, all I need to do is quote the person and say "this^"

Im am now demanding a "Ask us anything you want about female armor"

Or better yet - sell it through as many methods as you can. You seem to lack an understanding of marketting.

You really think people are going to stop playing the game because there is a little skin? You know perfectly well that people will start playing games because there are sixy female characters in skimpy outfits, it has worked MANY times before (Lara Croft anyone?).

Maybe not all armor does this? Just an idea.

I just watched that video (seen it ages ago, but watched it again and actually paid attention this time, heh) ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Fr6VF_1LA so now not worried about not having reasonably feminine armour (and nobody has to worry about boob windows on the layyydies and nipble glitter on the men either).

I will wear what ever armour looks nice and suits the character I am playing. Please do not make decisions for the rest of us as I think females in a fantasy setting should be more agile and dexterous than their male counterparts which is why their armour looks lighter so they can move more freely.

If a female gets hit by a hulking 6' Nord wielding a two handed axe they are going to get flattened no matter how much armour they are wearing due to the sheer brute strength of the Nord. If she can dodge and move out of the way she will last a lot longer in battle. Which means lighter armour instead of the heavy stuff we see male characters wearing.

If you want true realism then females never went to battle in the dark ages or medievil ages. So they get to wear no armour at all. There were maybe one or two such as Joan of Arc, Bodica and Cleopatra, but they was the exception to the rule.

And that's great, as long as the armor rating is set accordingly.

Could you sound more condescending?

Edit: And where is my ignore button? I have only been here an hour and I already want to avoid your posts.

Considering this is set in a Fantasy realm, what makes you so sure that skimpy armor isn't made to provide more protection through magical means?

... chest windows...

there's a glass armor tho D:

The bosmer I understand, but the redguard? She was barely showing any skin, then only thing I would have added would be some armguards or something. Showing your upper chest and the beginning crack of you cleavage(with what appears to be a metal choker of some sort), and a small portion of you naval is barely skimpy. If it gets to the level of Tera, or Dead or Alive, then we'll talk. Also, how come everyone is completely ignoring the fact that the nord woman in the third piece of art is completely covered from head to toe.

FREAKING THANK YOU, i mentioned this so many times, no one quoted on it, or talked about it, they prefer to have conflict about some cleavage and ignore that nord chick had the full armor on her with only some boob "sockets" in it.


and before you complain about armor having boob socket its the same as imperial armor having carved abs in it, hardly helpful, simply to have a psychological effect on the enemy, which in case of females, might also help, depending on how large the inside of the armor would be.

If -that- comment made you want to ignore someone you're gonna have a hard time on these forums.

If all female armors were too revealing, I probably wouldn't stop playing the game, but I'd seriously consider playing as a male character instead. As a roleplayer, it wouldn't be a problem and a reasonable armor would deepen my immersion.

Her 'armor' was incredibly unrealistic. She had exposed chest and stomach, the most vital parts of her body. You DO NOT go into battle dressed like this.

As a matter of fact, the OP of the previous thread mentioned her. She has boobplate, another invention that doesn't make a bit of sense. But I admit that compared to the other two women, boobplate is the least of our problems - not to mention that the vast majority of players accepts it as a viable armor desing, so it's a lost battle anyway.

Haha I have a hard time on all forums
The "I like X so you are wrong" crowd really annoy me, they are worse than the trolls because they actually believe what they say!

Oh if all armors were like this I would agree, some people like (Semi-)realism and I wouldn't want to prevent that, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that it is anything other than a choice depending on which armor you choose to wear. I don't see the need to punish anyone for wanting to dress a certain way.

to be honest, you dont need any kind of armour to get into a battle, althou chances of survival would be obviously smaller. actually, we dont know if redscum was a mage or not

but I agree that skimpy armours shouldnt be in the game, and for that matter neither female soldiers - I would like that battle would remain a sacred place for men, althou I understand that it is not currently possible with all fantasy juicy peaches roaming battlefields with banners so I do not ever try to pretend that I have any hope for that.

and forgot the most important parts in a battle are: neck and thighs ( inner )

I hate sixualised armor, makes women look cheap and stupid, not to mentions boob windows are bad at deflecting arrows

BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

TESO has some great looking women armor as well that looks "realistic-ish", so hopefully they will have a large array of armors for us to pick from for males AND females, and hopefully they will keep the TES spirit int their designs and not go full [censored] power ranger crap insanity like wow

We've already seen from the actual game video, and not by a cinematic trailer that has no real indication of anything other than a means to generate interest, that there are protective, practical female armours.

So we can generally assume there will be both chainmail bikini wearing women wielding broadswords, and fully plate covered women as well.

You probably won't read this (nice display of maturity there, BTW)
but the general tradeoff when it comes to armor in (western) games is "movement--protection".

Take a look at http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QIGO3XUZHe8/T6iZPxHbxEI/AAAAAAAAAIA/npPbG5YowZY/s1600/ElderScrollsOnline02.jpg picture. Notice how the two leftmost characters are wearing the same type of armor?
Between that and all the concept art I've seen so far, I sincerely hope that their looks are just a coincidence and not part of a trend.

Considering this is set in a Fantasy realm, what makes you so sure that skimpy armor isn't made to provide more protection through magical means?

I think it would make far more sense to magically turn heavy armor lighter so one may move about as freely as one would without.

As a female player, I really don't feel like parading around wearing a gunny sack or looking like a man in full plate from head to toe. If you don't like sixy armor, make a male toon.

"looking like a man", yes, I understand that combat should be reserved for males but if female fighters appear so they should wear those same armour that males use - because we dont wear them for the looks and carnivals but for protection ---- and I do not find a battlefield suitable for mating rituals, because for that are "sixy" outfits and everything that is perceived as "sixy" works in procreation system. here we face obliteration, deconstruction and happy heavy carving flesh of the enemies.

No actually, we wear them for looks, just like men do. They just wear manly-type cool stuff, and females wear feminine-type cool stuff.
Its a video game. Not real life. If it were real life, we'd die in one blow and not be able to rez and run back. Might as well look good while we're face down.

But this whole topic is a reference to real life. Men, since dawn of armosmith firstly tried to protect themselves, and then if they had enough funds they would add rich details. There are no manly armours, there are just armours. And there is a huge difference between full covering dress and promiscule flashing outfit with many visible curves - and those are mentioned in this topic, mating ritual material for those who are strong in their respective hormone levels. There's difference between feminine and vulgar.

female plate armours used to have lower part stylized as a dress, althou those were not for combat purpose as females didnt participate in fights.

I don't mind skimpy clothing in fantasy, as long it makes sense in context, but when it comes to armor it just doesn't make sense.

Look, I know this is a fantasy setting and all, but all evidence seems to show that in the Elder Scrolls universe being stabbed by a sword or shot with an arrow produces the same result as in real life. So why the hell would someone wear armor that exposes their vital organs? Even if that person has magical ability it still wouldn't make sense. Why would they run around with armor that weighs them down, is incredibly uncomfortable, and expensive if it does absolutely nothing to protect them? Why don't they just wear clothing then?

Oh and here's an interesting article (it's not about the boob window, but it still applies): http://martwhim.tumblr.com/post/40061546009/why-do-you-hate-the-shape-of-briasts-in-plate-armor-so