Freaking steampunk glove

Post » Tue May 10, 2011 6:19 pm

The Pip-Boy would be tollerable if the glove wasn't there, the actual bulky machine I can stand but I hate hate hate hate hate that stupid glove he wears over his left hand, I don't understand who could have thought forcing us to wear that glove with EVERY single costume would be a good idea.
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Kelsey Anna Farley
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 3:35 am

The Pip-Boy would be tollerable if the glove wasn't there, the actual bulky machine I can stand but I hate hate hate hate hate that stupid glove he wears over his left hand, I don't understand who could have thought forcing us to wear that glove with EVERY single costume would be a good idea.

I honestly never understood why the glove remains. If you read the Pip-Boy 3000 concept art from Fallout 3 art book you'd see there was an old concept where the glove would control screen changes on the pipboy, but since the Pip-Boy seems to have the dial in the.....top right? (I know theres a knob on the screen) that flips when you change screens, in my mind it would seemingly render the gloves usefulness to nothing more than cosmetic one, and even then it goes largely unoticed, may as well be removed in future Fallouts if you ask me.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 12:44 pm

four words for you my friend...
fallout: brotherhood of steel


:ahhh: AH! AHHHH!!! GET IT OFF ME!!!



Just had too :)
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Katie Samuel
 
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 12:49 pm

So.. where exactly are you all seeing this pip boy 5000? And the readius mod or whatever his name is isn't canon, so don't call it the pip-boy 4000.. seriously. Not cool bro.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 1:15 am

It's impossible for developers to create every single aspect of the game to absolutely and completely suit every single person who is going to buy it. Parts of the gamae are going to be disliked by the gamers. If Bethesda/Oblivion spent all their time creating every possible option for an alternative to every single little molecule in that game (yay! Hyperbole!) then it would either be even more of a mess than in is now, or it'll get released when no-one even knows what "Fallout" is anymore.
If you ask me, complaining about the Pip-boy because it doesn't really look that cool to you is just plain nit-picky. If you wanted to be able to change everything in the game you should have got a PC so you can mod.
If you've played all the Fallouts before, you should have already formed an opinion on the Pip-boy, and as you dislike the Pip-boy, perhaps a PC version of this game would have been better for you.
I hope this doesn't come across as aggressive or anything. Just makin' a point.

There is a difference here. They don't have to create everything for everyone ~just not assume that everyone's casual about a grandfather RPG IP (and even then, the same would apply to a new IP). The way they designed pipboy causes the left arm of any clothing to be substituted for it when the PC wears the outfit; Power armor adds strength (strength that ends at the elbow of the left arm). PA in FO3/NV is badly 'nerfed' as it is, but this goes against common sense and engineering. The purpose of an exoskeleton is to do all or (or in some cases most) of the work, yet in the FO3/NV armors, if you lifted a heavy object in one, the objects full weight would rest on your elbow joint (where the armor is pushing on you), and overtime (or at any time), it could damage your arm ~not to mention the complete lack of armor protection for the exposed limb.

If you examine the BOS PA, it appears as though the artist had intended the armor to cover the pipboy, but abandoned the idea. (If true, then from experience, I think I know exactly why ~but still; this should not have been done this way IMO).
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 10:24 pm

Well this was 50's engineering, think of it like that. It's fallout science, much like some things are soviet engineering. I remember once me and somebody I know, he had bought an old actual world war 1 sniper for like a hundred bucks, because hey, they were made in the millions! But he was gutting it out and turning it into an airsoft gun ( don't judge, even he felt bad for destroying such an antiquity. And the kinda airsoft I do is hardcoe, with over 200 people on massive fields and events, on par with national events ) and I noticed a hole in the stock of the rifle.. I asked him why, and he said it was for the sling mount. So I then asked him why he took it off, then he said "No.. that IS the sling mount, it just feeds right through the hole into the one in the front!" and it doesn't make much sense, but it was the engineering at the time.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 6:22 pm

Well this was 50's engineering, think of it like that. It's fallout science, much like some things are soviet engineering. I remember once me and somebody I know, he had bought an old actual world war 1 sniper for like a hundred bucks, because hey, they were made in the millions! But he was gutting it out and turning it into an airsoft gun ( don't judge, even he felt bad for destroying such an antiquity. And the kinda airsoft I do is hardcoe, with over 200 people on massive fields and events, on par with national events ) and I noticed a hole in the stock of the rifle.. I asked him why, and he said it was for the sling mount. So I then asked him why he took it off, then he said "No.. that IS the sling mount, it just feeds right through the hole into the one in the front!" and it doesn't make much sense, but it was the engineering at the time.

I'll tell you a dubious story about US engineering. We supposedly spent millions trying to design a pen that would write upside down, and in zero G (for use in space); Supposedly this is where pressurized pens came from.
Someone asked "Why don't we use what the Russians use?" ~"what's that?"....
"Pencils".

**I don't know if its true (though I'd like to think so; it sounds a hell of a lot like something we'd do).

50's engineering would not produce that (PA design). When you distill it down, its a leverage problem, and levers have been well understood for a long time.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 6:50 pm

Yeah I know about that pen, and that's actually right, why DIDN'T we use pencil? lol seriously, I hope somebody had thought of that.. but yeah, it's a leverage problem, your also correct about that.. ouch I don't want to think about what it'd do to your elbow.. gah! yeah.. perhaps have it fit OVER it, so there's a slot/hole in the top of the armor that seals around the screen, so you can still use it and NOT ruin your arm?
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 9:14 pm

That pen is a urban myth... kinda...

It is true that a so called space pen was developed, but more as a marketing gag. The Fisher Pen Company who developed it had nothing to do with NASA at all, nor did NASA ask them to develop this pen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Pen

Russian cosmonauts used pencils, and grease pencils on plastic slates until also adopting a space pen in 1969 with a purchase of 100 units for use on all future missions. [1] NASA programs previously used pencils (for example a 1965 order of mechanical pencils[2]) but because of the danger that a broken-off pencil tip poses in zero gravity and the flammable nature of the wood present in pencils[2] a better solution was needed. NASA never approached Paul Fisher to develop a pen, nor did Fisher receive any government funding for the pen's development. Fisher invented it independently, and then asked NASA to try it. After the introduction of the AG7 Space Pen, both the American and Soviet (later Russian) space agencies adopted it.

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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 2:37 pm

Hey Gizmo, there's a retexture for the Pip-boy Readius mod that makes it look like the Pip-boy 2000, but slimmer. It also has the original pip-boy guy on it (Yellow Jacket, Red hair!). The guy put Pip-Boy 3500 on it, but it looks alot like that. Also, I want that Pip-boy 2000 you just showed off.

I don't mind the PB3000 on the 360, but when you wear Power Armor, it just looks stupid.

I think the games should use the Readius, but with a more Fallout-style look or model.

Like:

http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/images/37250-1-1289940398.jpg

Link to the mod here:

http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37250

If anyone else wants it.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 1:03 pm

Yeah I know about that pen, and that's actually right, why DIDN'T we use pencil? lol seriously, I hope somebody had thought of that.. but yeah, it's a leverage problem, your also correct about that.. ouch I don't want to think about what it'd do to your elbow.. gah! yeah.. perhaps have it fit OVER it, so there's a slot/hole in the top of the armor that seals around the screen, so you can still use it and NOT ruin your arm?

You hvae to sharpen pencils, and wood and graphite dust floating around would probably both screw up the air filters and the astronauts lungs, and maybe foul up the electronics in unpredictable ways.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 10:15 pm

Yeah I know about that pen, and that's actually right, why DIDN'T we use pencil? lol seriously, I hope somebody had thought of that.. but yeah, it's a leverage problem, your also correct about that.. ouch I don't want to think about what it'd do to your elbow.. gah! yeah.. perhaps have it fit OVER it, so there's a slot/hole in the top of the armor that seals around the screen, so you can still use it and NOT ruin your arm?
It would seem to me, that that was what they originally had in mind. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/forearm.jpg

@Practice Sheet : Thanks, I'll check it out. :tops:
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 10:57 pm

Steampunk has nothing to do with Fallout, why the hell would it be a steampunk glove? I like the pip-boy, and I hate steampunk so...
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 8:54 pm

If you don't like it, don't play it. Pretty easy.
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Post » Tue May 10, 2011 1:28 pm

Hey I'm curious what the hell is that thing that Ceaser wears on his arm, I notices a few of the brotherhood scribes wearing like black ones with green lights, instead of his white one. Also, what's the pip-boy 5000?


In short. They're weapons the one that Caesar wears is called the Displacer Glove.
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