The recoil is the same regardless of how you hold it; it's just more manageable if you hold it properly .

But seriously, the Mosin isn't a mellow rifle. I'm not really sure what type of ammunition you were firing, but it has more recoil than say a .223, 7.62x39 or .30-06.

Actually, comparing a 150 gr. .30-06 to a 150 gr. 7.62x54R, the .30-06 is coming out of the barrel at about 70ft/s more, than it's Russian counterpart. Plus, with the Mosin's longer barrel, compared to say a 1903 Springfield, the Mosin isn't going to have as much recoil than it's shorter friend. Carbines/Short Rifles always have more kick, than a full length rifle because you're probably shooting a round that's topped for a full rifle, and not a carbine/short rifle. That's why Mosin-Nagant Carbines are so hated, and are the real mules of the Mosin family, compared to the M19/30.

And of course 7.62x54R is going to have more recoil than a small .223, that's not even most of the time topped at 100 gr.'s. My military M4, definitely wasn't shooting a 100gr. bullet.

I think it should be a female name, like these.

It does look just a little bit like Ol' Painless. Maybe add some duct-tape and we are all set.


And somebody please get a AA-12 with explosive ammunition and call it Big Boomer.

I've got the exact same model gun as you, even came with the bayonet, her name is Isabel. She doesn't talk much but when she does everyone listens. If I ever go into combat I hope I can take her with me.

EDIT- Ol' Painless was a .308, the mosin-nagant is not, If i were to give it a nickname based on a game i Would name it "The End" in memory of the best boss battle I've ever played (He wielded a mosin-nagant as well)

A higher muzzle velocity doesn't equate to more recoil. A .45 ACP averages around a 900ft/sec muzzle velocity while a 9mm Luger averages around 1300ft/sec, and almost everyone knows that the .45 ACP has a much higher recoil.

However, I can tell you from personal experience of owning and having fired both a Mosin Nagant and M1 Garand that the Mosin does have a stronger recoil. Again, though, it's going to depend on the load used.

Part of the perceived recoil could also be due to the weight of the weapon: the Lee Enfield no. 5 "Jungle Carbine" is renowned for having the most appalling recoil in spite of firing ordinary .303 rounds, but that was due to it being a much lighter rifle than what you'd typically fire a .303 with. I don't think the muzzle flash caused by its short barrel did anything to enhance the experience either.

I just wear a padded jacket.

See there, you're comparing a fatter/heavier round, to a slender/lighter round. 9mm Luger is 9x19mm, while the .45ACP round is 11.43x23mm, and the two can't be properly compared to one another since they're not equal in the first place. .30-06 Springfield in millimeters, is 7.62x63mm, which the 7.62 part equates to .30 caliber, just as the 7.62 on 7.62x54R, equates to .30 caliber. The two can thus be compared more evenly than 9mm Luger and .45ACP, hence why I stated the amount that the .30-06 was coming out at. If both are .30 caliber, and have the same amount of gr.'s, then my statement still holds. If I had compared a .30-06 in 182gr.'s to a 150gr. 7.62x54R round, then my use of muzzle velocity would have been incorrect.

And as Vometia stated, the weight of the gun itself, also comes into play when determining recoil. Which is also why I stated the 1903 Springfield, and not the M1 Garand, which is heavier and bulkier. Both the M91/30 Mosin-Nagant, and 1903 Springfield are a little more than 8 lb.'s each last I checked, which puts them on an even more scale, when comparing them both to shooting 150gr. bullets.

You could also compare the British .303 (7.7x56R) round at 174gr., to the Japanese 7.7mm (7.7x58mm) round at 174 gr., and see that the kick in shooting either of those rounds through their respected rifle, would about the same. And both of those are nearly equal in weight as well.

Its been said already, but, The Tzar. Probably the best.

Or you could do Bazaar.

He got in early and bet me too it.

Mine

And to the seven point six two millimeter full metal jacket reference, yes talk to a person that was a gunsmith, they talk like that, way to many times ive had my ear chewed off listening to precise specs of grain, ammo type, full weapon specs, you name it. Yes ive fired one or two guns in my life, military weapons as well.

I was shooting some 7.62 200gr.
Afterwards, we dumped it because it kept locking up the bolt and got some 150gr. it was better then, but still pretty bad, considering the buttplate was very square and the lack of a recoil spring.

Yeah, the pressures that higher grained bullets are put to, don't often go well with these old Russian rifles, and it's not too good on them either because it wears them out even more than they were when you got it. You get all sorts of problems, like as you said, the bolt getting locked up, and plenty of other things like that happen. It's best to find out the grain of bullet that was used in it during it's combat life, and use those. You're a lot less likely to get fowl ups and problems with the more accurate round, though it's not fool proof either, being as old as it is.

Personally, I find the butt-plate of the Mosin to fit rather well in my shoulder? But people are different.

I have that with the SMLE as well as the M14 and M1 (which are basically the same to hold).

I fired a black powder .45/70 trapdoor rifle this summer (yes, because of FO:NV and the oppertunity was there). To make a long story short, I would n.e.v.e.r fire a FO:NV rangers pistol after firing that monster.

I can't imagine the recoil on a revolver like that..

anyone wanna talk bruised shoulders, call me.

Well, it almost knocks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29fSkYM53Pk&feature=related flat on his butt.

I had to seriously lean into it as well

Never shot one chambered in it myself, but 500 S&W Magnum would have laid that guy on his butt. Plenty of YouTube vids showing people getting smacked in the face with a revolver or screwing up their wrists, and just plain showing the recoil of the bullet packs.

It was a cheap replica mosin. We accidentaly got 200gr and, why waste ammo?
the k98 was legit though.

That guy appears to have NO clue on what the hell he is doing.

I gave a Russian name too!

You so crazy.