I'm guessing it's the chap from Full Metal Jacket in your avatar, possibly even in the process of yelling it...

It is Gunnery Sgt. Hartman. And could guess, but it is a different scene!

But yes, it is from the movie Full Metal Jacket, The Tallest made a reference earlier above too!

Are you quitting on me?! Then quit. Get off my obstacle!

And yes, that is the proper way to say your calibers of ammunition. So, 7.62 would be said, seven-six-two millimeter. And full metal jacket is the type of round. Generally it's a soft core bullet encased in a softer metal, usually copper.

I've just never heard it said like that: my "Hollywood" comment is based on me getting rather suspicious thanks to horrid phrases like "lock and load" and calling a magazine a "clip". The jacket's actually a slightly tougher metal than the core so that the rifling doesn't strip it off due to the high velocities attained by modern propellants; though the opposite is true for armour-piercing bullets where the hard steel core would destroy the rifling.

Such a great scene! Or "What is this Mickey Mouse [censored]!?"

And what you also say is true.

Such a great movie.

'I bet you could svck a golf ball through a garden hose!'

What is this, the Bungie forums?

Boomstick

My first rifle in boot was named 'Lucy', after the Peanuts, because it was a crabby [censored] of a weapon.

My first rifle issued to me in the fleet was christened 'Jane', as in calamity.

When I was issued my DMR, I simply named it 'Elvis', because it rocked.


A weapon without a name is a weapon without a soul.

And that's just plain barbaric.

I think that would be appropriate if it was a Finnish capture/made Mosin, but it's probably not, seeing as most Mosin's on the market are Russian.


Those terms are often actually used in the military. For example, when a soldier says he/she's "locked and loaded", it means their gun has a round in the chamber ready to be fired, yet the safety is on so they can't, hence "locked and loaded".

What someone loads a pistol or M16/assault rifles nowadays with, is called a magazine, they're never called clips. Clips are used in rifles like from WW2 and so forth that are mostly bolt action, though one exception is the British Lee-Enfield. It did have a detachable box magazine, but it was always loaded with two clips, instead of taking out the magazine. Saving time and weight, not having to carry multiple magazines.

Weapons are just tools. Perhaps that is something they teach you in the military, to see it not as a tool, so that you grow attached to it and become desensitized to the fact that the only purpose of it is to kill.

Yeah, but when you have the better part of 40 handguns and 10 rifles that's one hell of a family to name .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=goDPezNGwVo#t=128s

???

That's an absolutely false, common mindset. Anybody who collects firearms will tell you that the sole purpose isn't to kill.

Gun collecting is a hobby. It's the same as stamp collecting or coin collecting.

My father and I collect guns, and I've never killed so much as a mouse with a BB gun.

EDIT: By the way, I've never been in the army.

Either that's a big cliche for a gun's name, or just a weird coincidence, but a buddy of mine when we were in Afghanistan called his SAW "Jane".

My first rifle in boot was named 'Lucy', after the Peanuts, because it was a crabby [censored] of a weapon.

My first rifle issued to me in the fleet was christened 'Jane', as in calamity.

When I was issued my DMR, I simply named it 'Elvis', because it rocked.


A weapon without a name is a weapon without a soul.

And that's just plain barbaric.

Andy you totally missed an opportunity to make a old timer joke there. Like, "When I was issued my first Flintrock I called it X".
Sloppy.

You can collect almost anything. That doesn't mean those things were made to be collected. Being collected isn't a function of an item.

And you think that the only function of a gun is to kill something?

Like I said, I've never killed anything with a firearm. I've been using firearms since my dad deemed me mature enough (probably around 9 years ago or so), and I've used them on countless occasions, but only even on paper targets and inanimate objects.

The PURPOSE (as you call it) of a firearm is to shoot. What is shot is up to the user.

Yes. Training with a weapon doesn't suggest it is no longer a weapon, in fact quite the opposite.

You didn't read my edit.

Besides, I never said I was training .

You're very wrong about what the military teaches someone. Never does the military train someone to think of a gun other than a tool, but a tool they're to use to kill someone, but a tool none the less. Naming your gun has nothing to do with desensitizing the soldier, because while your gun may have a nickname, the training that actually takes place, never lets you forget that the machine in your hand, is going to be used mainly as a tool for killing.

+1

Additionally, I fail to see your reasoning behind why you think naming a gun desensitizes killing to the operator. If someone is being attached to it due to the name, they'd be far more inclined to be overly-sensitized and have stronger feelings about the acts performed. The only way to desensitize it would be to distance oneself from it, which is exactly the opposite of what is happening in this situation.

It was an arquebus actually not a flintlock, and her name was 'Marielle', after a Parisian madam I knew at the time, who also had a big mouth..


It's a popular name for rifles I guess

A guy at the range has a SL8 he named 'Janis', but that's because he's a big Joplin fan

What Doc and Xray says..

Maybe it's an Americanism: I haven't heard it used here, except in films and TV programmes, which is why I assumed it was a Hollywood/CoD cliché. My guess about "locked" based on the assumption of authenticity is that it had a magazine locked in place, but perhaps not.


Referring to box magazines as clips drives me nuts. I wish people wouldn't do it. The Lee Enfield is indeed loaded with stripper clips, as you say, like many other rifles; the box magazine was rarely removed though, only for cleaning and maintenance (edit: as you also say; reading comprehension fail on my part, again.) We have one lying around here, though it's deactivated: it's decades since I last fired one.

During my time in the Sandbox, I heard a few Brits use the term. Could have been they were just messing around, but I'm pretty sure it's a somewhat fairly used Western military term outside the US as well. It might just be however, that US war films like to say it more for dramatic effect, than other countries war movies?