So first off it is 343, cleverly named after the monitor 343 Guilty Spark.

Then I would say Halo isn't easy. Not being as hard as something doesn't make the other thing easy. (though Halo 3 wasn't really hard) The first two on legendary were pretty tough, especially in the first one on the last half of the levels since you couldn't destroy flood forms the first time they died, so you could always be attacked from any direction. So basically if something is harder than something else, it doesn't mean that the latter thing is easy.

There are movies that have some simple plots, but I guess retards only enjoy them because they aren't complex... Most music uses the same three chords, since it is that simple I guess anyone who likes it are retards.

And lastly video games are a form of easy, which would mean that they aren't supposed to be hard or easy or in between, they are too entertain. If you enjoy difficult stuff then great, but you are seriously calling people retards because they enjoy something that isn't hard as stuff you like?

I had just watched the H4 vid on the dashboard and I gotta admit that my roommate and I are stoked for it. We are hoping it will be more like H3 and not that poser game, Reach.

Ok easy gameplay was the wrong choice of words, I meant simple gameplay.

How does that change anything? It is basically the same thing too. The definition of simple is easily understood

Simple or easy doesn't equal bad.

If you don't like the game then okay, but saying the game is bad just because it is easy to play doesn't mean it is bad, nor does it mean that only retards play the game.

No I didnt mean mainstream= console. dark souls for example is console only but definately not mainstream.

Yes sorry I overreacted. But very simple & easy gameplay is the definition of bad for me. it revolutionised multiplayer back in 2001 at least but the singleplayer is just trash. But like i said it was the first FPS with a boring campaign that all others seemed to copy afterwards. 2 gun limit, regen health, no interaction, "epic" music, repetitive environments, poor story and no other extra gameplay elements like hidden areas, platforming, puzzles, end of level stats etc.....

I find you, quite enjoyable.

No, seriously Halo is the only and I mean ONLY game my son plays. He's got about 20 Xbox games on top of my 30 and it's the only gane he plays. So, excuse me for not sharing everyone else's sentiments. After all, this is a public forum and each one of us IS entitled to our OWN opinions on the subject matter.

Hell, the same could be applied in the other direction. Some of you may not like what some others have to say, so why do you have to respond?

Is that cause it is easy? If so, then okay you may have your opinion.

Otherwise I would like to see how I can try and prove that wrong.

I thought Halo: Reach was horrible.

Well good thing this is a Halo 4 thread then.

hey thumbs up for defending your view maturely. read post at the top of the page. but I have been playing games heavily for years so i saw the effect it had on the industry and hated it for its simplicity, I just failed to explain that properly without seeming like i was just trolling/raging against halo. (I definately was raging!)

1.I don't think the 2 gun limit is a bad thing, I actually never liked the carry all the guns in the game thing.
2. In the first one is was sort of a mixture, and in Reach a mixture, Halo 2 and 3 had it though, but unlike most FPS they actually do have an explanation for regenerating health
3. Yeah no interaction, but oh well
4. Many could argue that music makes it better, and the other argue it makes it worse, so that is subjective
5. That's pretty broad, do you mean always in a forest or city?
6. I liked the story a lot, it had a lot of twists and stuff, but it didn't hand them to you, or shove them down your throat. And the story is much much more enthralling if you read and view the rest of the media. That is also something I really love about Halo that most other video games don't have and the fact that it started as a video game, it has various books, comics, and even a couple movies. The story and Universe is really really huge, probably one of the largest video game universes.

One thing I really didn't like is the fanbase though. Of course there are some alright people, but they are usually over run by [censored] people, or 12 year olds who think they know everything. Though it isn't as bad as Call of Duty.

EDIT: For the interaction part, I think terminals are cool though, and I wouldn't be surprised if they added something in H4 to discover info about the forerunner.

Just to have a change in subject:

In the multiplayer apparently you are members of the Spartan IV project. I definitely feel that they will give some back story to why these Spartan IV's were created. Then there is the appearance, I am not a fan of the first armor you get, if you ask me it is too much of one solid color.

I'm sorry your sons love for something has made you hate it?

It may be a public forum but you still have to go out of your way to post in a thread about a specific game. Which if you knew you didn't like, why would you want to post there anyways? You may have a different opinion, but we aren't bombarding your inbox, nor invading threads you read, to tell you about this game.

Don't like the game? Don't post in it's thread.


On topic:

Looks like I'm going to have to start reading the novels if they plan on incorporating more story in the single player, don't want to be left in the dark after all

4. From experience with all the games I wouldn't really say there is too much epic music, if I really try to think about it, I find that there isn't too much music at all. Though I do know what the epic music parts are.
5. Halo is not too repetitive. First it is considered a "sandbox" (modern?) FPS. Basically it means that you can go about solving a situation however you want to. Where other FPS just say shoot this rocket and we can go on, or kill these 5 guys and we can go on, or snipe these five dudes while following this guy through a sewer that has no turns. If it is repetitive it is partially do to the player.
6. The first time playing the first one I didn't really pay attention whatsoever to the story, but if you do understand it, it is pretty cool. The second and third one though are just basic sequels so they don't quite meet the standard of the original and more or less just copied the first story and added some twists. And in Reach we already knew the story, so that was lame. But with this one they have a clean slate, sounds like a recipe for success to me.

I think the new ones, Cryptum and Primordium will tie in with the game somehow. They are about the forerunner, mainly two key figures of the forerunner. I keep telling myself to get them at the library, but I never do.

LOL its as if you were trying to pass it off as deus ex! no way mate. the only choices is which route to take and gun to use, but thats been in games for years.

I'd say you're right, seeing as how I'm sure the Forerunner's are going to be a huge part of this story.

Good thing I'm not the only one that's not talking about Halo 4 then.

That's what I meant (or vehicle ) And I mean it as, it isn't like other modern FPS games. The Spartans, especially in the Mark V and VI suits, aren't meant for using stealthy tactics or anything, just showing up and kicking ass. That's always been a great feeling in my opinion. Especially how the chief is portrayed in the first games making you feel as if you are him.

Though I think it is time to flesh the character out, he has already seemed to show some emotions, but he definitely can control them.

I suspect that we will try and help something of forerunner descent or crafting, and we will be fighting the precursor, the more technologically advanced people who came before the forerunner.

I can't wait for the return of Master Chief. Halo will definitely give Mass Effect a run for its money for game of the year (and hopefully Black Ops 2 is a contender). It's an exciting year.

Oh jonahirt! you are like the lover of all i hate! you are my online rival! halo, all the modern military FPS campaigns, modern pop music, dubstep (drum n bass & jungle is much better) and much more! every post you make, my blood boils! but you really seem like a decent guy at heart so carry on m8. whatever floats your disgusting boat! (I just see it as you never have found the finer things in life!)

I believe there was some info on it in Halo: Glasslands (the lastest book in the main series).
It's been a few months since I read it so all I can remember at the moment is that while Halsey was thought KIA on Reach they had Col Ackerson take over the project and he created them. Might have something to do with fighting insurrectionist colonies again since the war is over.

I've always thought that singleplayer was the strong point of the Halo series. I've played Halo 3 story multiple and hardly ever touch multiplayer, unless it's a custom match with friends.