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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:35 am

First of all, pepper them with salt? You mean salt them with salt?

Second, no, you shoot them with buckshot filled with rock salt instead of BBs.
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Felix Walde
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:03 am

The leg isn't exactly devoid of lethality, either. A shot to the thigh would likely kill whomever was shot, and, even if they live, they'll be maimed.

maybe... IF you hit the artery... small target compared to the rest of the meat mass in the leg. And even if you do... you can throw a tourniquet on to prevent the man from dying, and if help arrives soon enough and they can get some clamps on the Artery soon enough, they may even save his leg.

Shoot em in the torso and you're MUCH more likely to kill someone.

Arms are the only other good place to shoot someone with intent to wound and stop them instead of killing them.

Here's the thing.

You have a gun, in your home, ready to defend your self and your property

Here is an intruder... armed with, you come to find, a small hard pipe or knife.

You aim at him and tell them to leave now.

Instead they come toward you.

You have limited options at this point. You CANNOT allow them to reach you.

You can shoot center mass which will assuredly drop them, and most likely kill them

Or you can pop em in the leg or arm and call the police and hope for the best.

Typically, I would recommend for most people to always shoot center mass.

Myself? If I can avoid killing them, I will.
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Iain Lamb
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:12 pm

If you shoot them in the head/face you have a better chance of saying that you were trying to just give a warning shot and missed.
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phil walsh
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:56 pm

If you shoot them in the head/face you have a better chance of saying that you were trying to just give a warning shot and missed.

lol wut?

I'd never try for that defense... I'm going to hit wtf I want, and they know it (they bloody well trained me to hit what I want)
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:23 am

Just so you all know, in some states you HAVE to shoot to kill. If they are still alive you can charged or even sued, and they can win to. If someone gets hurt while in YOUR house YOU can get in trouble, it doesn't matter if they are committing a crime by being there. It's why you can't bobby trap your own house.
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kat no x
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:00 am

You can settle with them that neither side presses charges....

They walk away with a wound but no criminal charges...

or they press for lawsuit, and get indicted for breaking and entering, and attempted assault with a deadly weapon. So they sued you... lotta good that'll do em.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:02 am

I use my own staggering physical presence to protect my home from any intruders.
Actually last time that happened I nearly got stabbed, so in future I'll use what some people call, the Police...
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OTTO
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:50 am

I use ICBM's. Though it has devastating outcomes, I will at least know that my stuff wasn't stolen.
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Jenna Fields
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:31 pm

Got three pump action shotguns (12, 16, and 20 gauge), a .38 special S&W snubnose revolver, and a .22 Ruger.
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Brιonα Renae
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:50 am

I use my own staggering physical presence to protect my home from any intruders.
Actually last time that happened I nearly got stabbed, so in future I'll use what some people call, the Police...
The police aren't gonna be there in time to be there as soon as you need them, more than likely they'll be there once everything has happened and your either dead/ injured or they got what they wanted and left.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:56 pm

The police aren't gonna be there in time to be there as soon as you need them, more than likely they'll be there once everything has happened and your either dead/ injured or they got what they wanted and left.

Yeah, i'll use my Samurai Sword if it gets too risky :)
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Austin England
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:56 pm

Yeah, i'll use my Samurai Sword if it gets too risky :smile:
Oh god I'm gonna cry, at least get a Gladius so you can actually do some damage.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:50 am

Oh god I'm gonna cry, at least get a Gladius so you can actually do some damage.

I'm not fighting a war mate, pretty sure a steel blade, sharp or not, swung fast enough will do enough damage to let an intruder know your intentions.
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Laura
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:43 pm

The police aren't gonna be there in time to be there as soon as you need them, more than likely they'll be there once everything has happened and your either dead/ injured or they got what they wanted and left.
To back you up, there was a news report that in Oklahoma, an old woman was on the phone with 911 for over an hour or two before the cops showed up. Problem was, while she was on the phone for an extended period of time trying to get the cops to move their asses, the guy threw a piece of outdoor furniture through the glass door, and the woman had to shoot to kill the guy immediately. Cops still didn't show for quite a while. The audio of the call and the article should still be circulating around the internet.

At best, cops will arrive 10-15minutes after the call. Also, don't take chances, aim for the center of mass. Despite what movies and cartoons may show, getting shot in the torso is going to cause some serious damage.

And Arathorn, here's one thing, they're a criminal, you're not. It's never safe or smart to approach a criminal so close, even with a weapon. Chances are, they're more likely to hurt you than you are going to hurt them. Guns are a giant neutralizer for a reason in the face of a break-in.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:58 am

I'm not fighting a war mate, pretty sure a steel blade, sharp or not, swung fast enough will do enough damage to let an intruder know your intentions.
Yeah but if their wearing power armor a jap blade is just gonna bounce off. With a gladius you can go for area's that are open to a thrust. ;)
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:47 pm

Just so you all know, in some states you HAVE to shoot to kill. If they are still alive you can charged or even sued, and they can win to. If someone gets hurt while in YOUR house YOU can get in trouble, it doesn't matter if they are committing a crime by being there. It's why you can't bobby trap your own house.
On that note, any American posters in this thread should look up whether or not their state incorporates castle doctrine into their laws, and should be familiar with exactly when duty to retreat is suspended and under what conditions (if any) are protections against civil action provided.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:44 am

Yeah but if their wearing power armor a jap blade is just gonna bounce off. With a gladius you can go for area's that are open to a thrust. :wink:

I'll bear that in mind next time I come up against someone in 'power armour' ;)

@Hellmouth. It wasn't a criminal, it was a teenage gang throwing rocks at our house. I managed to corner one of them before he pulled a knife on me.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:17 pm

Yeah, what DarthRananger said is also key. Also, some states also remove the prerequisite to even announce you have a deadly weapon, under certain conditions.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:29 pm

I see where your coming from, but there's always a danger to yourself with home intruders. I don't own a gun, but if I had to defend myself with one, I would never shoot to kill, only to wound if I really had to.

There's no such thing as "shoot to wound". You either hit your target, in which case you'd have better intended to kill them (whether or not it actually happens is largely out of your hands), or you don't. The differentiation is an invention of popular media (including news outlets, to their shame) but there isn't one in practical terms.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:59 pm

eff the police.... they're only good for sorting out the details after the fact.

You're on your own in this world.

The sooner you realize that and take responsibility for it, the better.

Get trained. Get confident. Lose fear.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:49 am

There's no such thing as "shoot to wound". You either hit your target, in which case you'd have better intended to kill them (whether or not it actually happens is largely out of your hands), or you don't. The differentiation is an invention of popular media (including news outlets, to their shame) but there isn't one in practical terms.

excuse me????

How is there no such thing as shooting to wound?

Granted, it's not typically legal, but neither is shooting someone in the bloody face.

I would love to see the jury that convicted me for NOT killing someone and only wounding them when I was threatened with my life and was under legal authority to use deadly force.

The only reason killing is legally recommended is they can't contest your claims of events if they're dead.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:10 pm

An M1 Garand, a Mini-14, a .357 Maximum, several .22 rifles and revolvers, a 12-guage over-under shotgun, a 20-guage over under shotgun, a Mosin Nagant looking rifle, and some others.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:10 pm

excuse me????

How is there no such thing as shooting to wound?

Granted, it's not typically legal, but neither is shooting someone in the bloody face.

I would love to see the jury that convicted me for NOT killing someone and only wounding them when I was threatened with my life and was under legal authority to use deadly force.

The only reason killing is legally recommended is they can't contest your claims of events if they're dead.
Actually it can be illegal to wound and not to kill, just so you know.
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Liv Brown
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:01 am

Actually it can be illegal to wound and not to kill, just so you know.

I don't live my life based on legal laws anyways but the law of just and right.

If I can wound instead of killing, I am morally bound to do so.
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Jade Payton
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:22 am

I don't live my life based on legal laws anyways but the law of just and right.

If I can wound instead of killing, I am morally bound to do so.
If thats the way you want to go then I say do it, but be aware that can get you in trouble.
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