So, 1. Under 1, if you're not expecting anyone, and you hear someone rummaging/walking around your house, you're legally entitled to go ape[censored]. Edited the post for clarity.

Nope you can't without facing a penalty as harsh as any normal assault case.
There is something that says you can attack back if you use equal force as your attacker which I find to be complete [censored], why should this trepasser/potenial: theif/rapist/murderer, get any proctection from breaking and entering my home.

There was a case a few years back just down the road from me where this ned would terrorise his neighbour, and surrounding people because he was in a gang, he one night thought it would be funny to rob this one neighbours lawnmower, the neighbour seen his and grabbed a knife to which the ned pulled out his as well, but the neighbour caught him and killed him.
The neighbour got "life" in jail while the ned got mourned like a celebrity.....

My dog would probably open the door and show the burglar the silverware (if I had any silverware, that is.)


Sure, but I don't think that makes him your ex-brother in law.

Even under number two, the defense only has to prove that they perceived a high danger or threat, not that they were actually presented with one.

Also remember that it's not really the police's job to decide innocence or guilt, except in the cut and dry cases. People are often arrested and charged after defending themselves, but subsequently let go. This might seem unfair if it were happening to you at the time, but A LOT of people claim self defense.

From what I know from my mum, who's a police officer, the vast majority of the cases where people get up in arms over self defense laws turn out to be things like 30 year olds shooting at 14 yo shoplifters, or stabbing someone for tagging.

Meh, semantics.

Key words were enters your home. On the property is a bit different.

Ehhhh... yes and no. If you're a 70-year-old granny, courts are going to be much more lenient in deciding that there was a danger to you. If you're a 30-year-old bodybuilder and martial artist, and you attacked someone who was just strolling through your house, and ended up breaking bones, it's very likely that you'd be the one punished instead of, or in addition to, the trespasser.


Yes, I know, I'm a law student.

You must live in Canada.... I just heard about that... ridiculous O.o

Sorry, I wasn't talking to you with that second bit, it squished all my extra paragraphs breaks into one

No worries, I don't exactly advertise it.


Edit: (I didn't notice this reply... ) I think if you can reasonably expect to be protected until the police arrive, then you have no right to attack the intruder if he's not in the house. I'm not sure, though. I don't live in a 1-type legal system, so I've only learned about 1-type legal systems as contrast material to my 2-type system.

I have an assortment of axes and knifes. I also have defense plans for all sorts of invasions to my house.

Which is a good thing.

Well we do have an old rifle lying about, dunnop if we have ammo or if it actually works, but it can be used as a club. It weights a crap-ton.

And then there's the old sword on the wall. I'd probably stab myself with it though.

And well, the water-boiling thing boils water in a minute, so I'd be able to have steaming hot water to throw at them as well, in juse one minute.

Americans and their love for guns.

Ro, is that you in disguise? Where's your hammer?

Nothing. Why would anyone ever want to break into my pos house? I'm poor and have nothing if value. Besides, I live in the middle of the woods.

Ahh...nvmd.

There is some pretty good gun control in my country so there is next to a 100% chance the burglar would not have a firearm on himself. In which case I still would have the lower hand considering he's probably have a knife or something against my nothing but I'm still fairly certain that I'd be able to drive the burglar out by words alone. And if not I guess I could always resort to throwing ponies at him

Er, you are aware that criminals have a tendency to ignore laws, including those covering the possession of firearms...?

Yes but ignoring laws is not always that easy. There is a reason years go by here without a single gun incident.

I guess I tend to be really quite cynical about it since they keep clamping down not just on live firearms here but even collectors' stuff that'll never fire again, but there's still quite a serious gun problem with criminal gangs. I'll declare something of an interest in firearms and how they work, although I'm totally ambivalent about the subject of gun ownership.

I open carry a 9MM when I go anyplace but work.
I have a SKS along with a .22LR and survival knife.

Hollywood style Ninja-to

I suppose it largely depends on if it's already going or not. In places where guns are already largely in use and trade amongst criminals it would be very hard to stop them from getting new ones if laws were made to keep guns from the public but where guns are already rare it's a lot easier to keep people from getting guns as regulation can be kept tighter and more precise rather than trying to regulate large areas filled with guns, attempting to stop everyone at once rather than just the one case here and there.

As to keep on the home defense topic I wonder if I'd hesitate or not to throw my CE Alduin statue at a burglar or not XD "Do I throw it and damage it in the process or put it gently down and look for another object!"

Doesn't happen around here often enough to worry about such a thing, but i do have some chairs here that could be easily grabbed to reinforce the "please leave" request

Need to get me a firearm, but people always say don't use them, knives, or anything cause the people robbing you will take them away. Anymore I say screw it and i'm tempted to get me a dang shotgun for home defense.

At the moment I have a good 2 to 3ft 1inch solid piece of wood by my side. Hit someone upside the head with it in the right spot it's lights out or a good chance of them blacking out.

Do you really think the army would fight against friends/family?
They are people just like us, and if anything was to happen I am sure they would not all blindly follow orders.
Besdies, most people/hunters know the land and have better camo than normal units.


No way, criminals follow the laws, thats why they are criminals.


Don't drive your car, someone might take it away. That argument works for anything.
You can pick up a 9mm fairly cheep, I open carry often when I go out, but I do have my CCDW and some times CC.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn234/titanmike357/Guns/2011-07-14_19-44-58_961.jpg
Thats my Ruger P-85 and a Heritage .22.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn234/titanmike357/2011-12-03_15-36-54_939.jpg
Thats my tacti-cool sks.
Its a paratrooper, but I put a different stock on it with a 15 round detach and fore grip.