Home Defense

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:29 pm

I don't really see the point in it. If your possessions are worth more than someone's life, than what kind of person are you?

I really don't want to use it, but my life is in danger, I will use it to defend myself.
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Suzie Dalziel
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:12 pm

I don't really see the point in it. If your possessions are worth more than someone's life, then what kind of person are you?

The kind that owns Xena and Britney Spears collections. No one's life is worth that.
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Steeeph
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:00 pm

I don't really see the point in it. If your possessions are worth more than someone's life, then what kind of person are you?
I see where your coming from, but there's always a danger to yourself with home intruders. I don't own a gun, but if I had to defend myself with one, I would never shoot to kill, only to wound if I really had to.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:38 am

So... your ammo would cost thousands upon thousands of dollars, and in a few hours might make them hallucinate (if it gets absorbed through the skin)? May as well fill it up with bleach or something cheap lol.





In this day and age the army is far past anything a citizen group could do, even with state of the art guns. Gun control has its merits, especially for small arms. If we did have another civil war, what use would a scrappy group be against a well trained military with tonnes of weapons and equipment?
Ever hear of Vietnam? A guerrilla type army can do a LOT of damage. Gun control doesn't work, all it does is stop those that wish to follow the laws. I can get full-auto guns just by making some calls, we all can. Hell if you get a class3 then it's legal so long as the weapon in question was in the US before the ILLEGAL "assault weapons" ban. And you do know that there are militias with tanks right? Street gangs are also packing lots of heat. Just because its got better stuff, doesn't mean it can't have it's ass handed to it.

Also people, if your feel you life is being threatened by another then you do have the right to defend yourself. And for you that think you would only shoot to wound a attacker, your idiots. If/when it happens unless your trained to shoot to wound(and even then, and no one is anyways) you more likely to be caught up in the situation and shoot at the biggest part of the person coming at you. Your not thinking "oh this guy is trying to hurt/kill me, I'll just nick him". And for those of you that want to say that maybe a criminal isn't trying to hurt you. If they bring a weapon into ANY crime and someone gets killed, that is MURDER. It means that they are willing to hurt/kill to get what they want, and that you ARE justified in responding to a perceived threat against you OR others. While it isn't to be taken lightly, there is no way that you can know what someone that is threatening you with a gun or knife is gonna do. For those that say there gonna kick/hit the weapon away then kick their ass, you a idiot and you'll end up with the Darwin Award sooner of later. Being able to defend yourself and your family is important, and if it isn't to you there is something wrong with you. Don't do something stupid, but also don't do nothing.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:41 pm

I don't really see the point in it. If your possessions are worth more than someone's life, then what kind of person are you?
It's scary sometimes how comfortable people are with taking a life. If I absolutely had to pull the trigger, I would regret it for the rest of my life.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:21 pm

12 gauge shotgun. Sounds a little extreme, but my house isn't in a great location. I've never had to point it at someone, hopefully never will. I figure all I would have to do is shoot the thing into the floor, scaring away all but the hardest of criminals. And even if they didn't, then a single round of buckshot to the legs would pretty much stop anyone. Hopefully It never comes to that.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:31 am

I don't really see the point in it. If your possessions are worth more than someone's life, then what kind of person are you?
This. Absolutely this.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:39 am

My friend is lying in the middle of the road, bleeding to death. Please let me in!

This concerns me why? Good day {shut's door} :P .
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:34 pm

This. Absolutely this.

I'm not going to sit back while my girlfriend (who lives with me) gets hurt, or worse. There's no way I'm going to let some [censored] waltz right in and take the stuff I worked so hard to obtain. I don't want to do it, but I have a fundamental right to protect my life, and those in my care. I would hate to do so, I don't ever want to do it.

Home intruders know what their doing where I live.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:46 pm

Nothing, we don't really keep tools for home defense. It's not really a problem in Malta.
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Javier Borjas
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:06 pm

That idea never crossed my mind. :huh: Not that I have any reason. I live in an apartment, top floor, in an extremely quiet town. *shrug* :)
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:01 am

This concerns me why? Good day {shut's door} :tongue: .
You laugh when this is what people do right here in the US and around the world. It isn't something to laugh or joke about.
I'm not going to sit back while my girlfriend (who lives with me) gets hurt, or worse. There's no way I'm going to let some [censored] waltz right in and take the stuff I worked so hard to obtain. I don't want to do it, but I have a fundamental right to protect my life, and those in my care. I would hate to do so, I don't ever want to do it.

Home intruders know what their doing where I live.
You also have the right to defend your property you know. And your should always hate to take a life, but sometimes it helps not to.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:34 pm

You laugh when this is what people do right here in the US and around the world. It isn't something to laugh or joke about.
You also have the right to defend your property you know. And your should always hate to take a life, but sometimes it helps not to.

I agree, I hate the idea of taking a life, I pray and hope that I never have to. I have a gun just in case though, I hope I never have to put it to action.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:54 am

I agree, I hate the idea of taking a life, I pray and hope that I never have to. I have a gun just in case though, I hope I never have to put it to action.
I feel the same, it's why I have a revolver within reach(unloaded but still). And why I have home defense shells for my Mossy.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:13 am

Ever hear of Vietnam? A guerrilla type army can do a LOT of damage. Gun control doesn't work, all it does is stop those that wish to follow the laws.

We have gun control in the UK and have less gun crime, so maybe not.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:24 am

We have gun control in the UK and have less gun crime, so maybe not.

http://reason.com/archives/2002/11/01/gun-controls-twisted-outcome/singlepageseems to prove otherwise
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:22 am

We have gun control in the UK and have less gun crime, so maybe not.
That's a pretty bad example actually, you guys have plenty of other crime and your cops freak out over spent shell casings. And you guys still have gun crime. Your cops also seem terrified of taking down people with a machete when there are 20+ officers all with shields. But you guys also have weird gun laws, you all can own .50bmg bolt actions as long as you do the paperwork.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:02 am

That article is 10 years old. We definitely have lower gun crime than America does. Only the gangs really use guns.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:55 pm

I don't really see the point in it. If your possessions are worth more than someone's life, then what kind of person are you?

A person who is breaking into my home?

And I don't know for sure how they'll react to finding someone home and awake... maybe they want no witnesses? Some people are stone cold.

I won't use more force than necessary... but I WILL use ANY force necessary.... even if that means taking their pitiful life.

I don't have a gun, but I will get one eventually. Last thing you want is to confront someone breaking into your home without one when they do have one.

If they don't have one... 10 to 1 says they run for it when they see mine... and if they don't, I don't need to kill. A shot to the thigh would be more than effective at taking the will to fight out of someone, without undo risk to myself in a more intimate confrontation (currently my only option)
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:25 pm

I love all of these hardened gunmen who would pop them in the leg... When confronted you're probably just as likely to blow a hole in your ceiling, let alone pick your spot.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:41 pm

I love all of these hardened gunmen who would pop them in the leg... When confronted you're probably just as likely to blow a hole in your ceiling, let alone pick your spot.
The leg isn't exactly devoid of lethality, either. A shot to the thigh would likely kill whomever was shot, and, even if they live, they'll be maimed.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:40 pm

Rock salt.
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Gemma Archer
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:39 pm

I don't really see the point in it. If your possessions are worth more than someone's life, then what kind of person are you?
If someone is willing to break into my house and put me and my wife in danger I am not just gonna let them walk off with my things that I worked hard to get.
Just lay down and let them take my things?
They are willing to break in, they may be willing to kill/harm me or my wife.

They are scum, and while I hope I never have to use a gun, I carry one with me. I keep one at home, because I value my wife and my life along with my possessions.

It's scary sometimes how comfortable people are with taking a life. If I absolutely had to pull the trigger, I would regret it for the rest of my life.
A lot of you that do not own guns do not understand this. A LAC with a gun is not out to kill, maim or murder. None of us want to kill anyone, but we don't want to be killed either.
We don't buy a gun hoping we get to use it on a person, we buy one hoping we never have to use it. But we have it if we need it.
Guns are fun to target shoot with too.
I don't want to kill anyone, but if it was me or them I will do all I can to survive. I won't like it after the fact but its better then the other option.

I used to be very anti gun until someone took me out shooting, most fun I ever had.


I see where your coming from, but there's always a danger to yourself with home intruders. I don't own a gun, but if I had to defend myself with one, I would never shoot to kill, only to wound if I really had to.
Never, ever shoot to wound. If you shoot, you shoot to kill and only if you are in danger of getting killed or seriously injured.
Honestly, if you are not going to aim for center mass, don't buy one.

I love all of these hardened gunmen who would pop them in the leg... When confronted you're probably just as likely to blow a hole in your ceiling, let alone pick your spot.
Thats why I practice and go to meetings where you can practice in different situations.



Rock salt.
And if they have a gun and you just pepper them with salt? Or even if they have a knife?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:43 pm

This thread made me realise I've got no obvious home defence weapon.. I'm vulnerable. :(
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:53 pm

The leg isn't exactly devoid of lethality, either. A shot to the thigh would likely kill whomever was shot, and, even if they live, they'll be maimed.

Yep, hardly the greatest of mercies.


Thats why I practice and go to meetings where you can practice in different situations.

And even you, a professional, admit it isn't a good idea to shoot them in the leg!
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