My copy of New Vegas did lock up fairly frequently (again, not Bethesda Game Studios fault since they didn't have a hand in New Vegas) but big deal. It auto saved so often that I never really lost any important progress that I couldn't get back in a few minutes.

Both FO3(Bethesda) and FO:NV(Obsidian) were bug ridden messes on release, FO3 because of random spawns plus navmesh issues and FO:NV with major quest's broken, but heh, this is Bethesda, if I ever get a game from them that works perfectly first time out, I'll be double checking who developed the game

I only encountered one too. Appearently the game doesn't like quad-core processor, so I fixed it to only use 2 in the INI. The game tended to freeze randomly, but that is a problem of the past. Appearenlty Bethesda hadn't optimized it for those with quad.

that's ok sorry you be missing Skyrim c'se you know this is no FailOut3.
but think about it,
well be here tommorrow.

That would never be a reason for me to get any game or not.

I probably will NOT get S because I gave very strong initial feelings against complete removal of attributes. I will read feedback on the forums very cautiously and eventually give it a try.

Oh - another reason I probably I will not get S is sys req's. I can barely play O, so when my bro dumps his video board to me, I'll probably use it to play O.

Obsidian made Fallout New Vegas. Check your facts next time OP.

No, I didn't have many problems either. The only thing that happens about every 20 hours of playing for me is a glitch in VATS that makes the character freeze. Other than that, I never really had a problem. As to the OP, I'd rather play a buggy game than no game at all. Benefits outweigh the drawbacks and all that.

WTF are you talking about? I got no bad treatment from any game from Bethesda.

You need to do your research buddy. All credit for FoNV (good and bad) goes to Obsidian and not BGS.

3+

Well,
To be honest, I was going to preorder and pay in full Skyrim when I went to pick up Batman: Arkam City, but what changed my mind is when I bought all add ons and got the 1.07 patch for F:NV and started new game, I discovered Primm mission glitched, and I'm not the only one with that problem.

I got Fallout 3 GOTY and I kept hard restarting due to the constant freezes. My save files got past 15mb in size.

I'm not raging or trying to petition or boycotting Skyrim, if any real Fallout gamers read this then they'd be questioning any game from Bethesda.

I guess no one remembers Rogue Warrior and how well that game did.

When I heard about Steam for TESV, I was pretty much done with the TES games. However I picked up a copy of FONV for about 20 bucks to see how Steam behaved (I had played it on the 360 due to the Steam thing).

Frankly my fears (other than being locked out of a game should Steam shut down) have been put to rest. So I decided to pick up (have already preordered) TESV.

Not that I'll be buying anything from Steam; still don't entirely like this business model.

The worse experience I've had with Bethesda is the launch of FONV - couldn't play for a month or two due to the bugged save games issue on the 360. Still finding bugs in TESIV though. Given the game's size it's more a question of managing the big ones than trying to squash every little thing. More control a player has over gameplay, harder it will be to find each one. I can live with that.

Bethesda didn't make New Vegas

People like you make me glad TES series is always single player.

This

Agreed

You don't seriously think that Obsidian did whatever they wanted with Bethesda's very expensive mega franchise and just chucked the product out there
when they felt it was done without Bethesda breathing down their neck every step of the way. Bethesda also being ultimately responsible for the overall
quality of the product. So yes, Bethesda are to be blamed, for not making sure Obsidian made THEIR product live up to whatever standards it should of.
...and if they did, and the way it was released/patched was up to standards...then my friends, then there's cause to be afraid - very afraid.

Umm lol I played Fallout New Vegas thoroughly and I didn`t notice any glitches. If I came across some glitches they were so tiny that I barely noticed them.

You created a post title that says yea or nay, but suprise...it's really just for you to say "I hate Bethesda". Unfortunately, the game you had problems with was NOT made by Bethesda, so your accusing the wrong company. That's sad, man.

If you thnk THAT is bad treatment just be glad EA isn't in there too. Seriously, just go over to the Battlefield 3 forums. EA totally screwed everyone on that game (along with DICE as well).

The other game the OP is referring to, is Rage. The disastrous technical issues on the PC made many reconsider their pre-order of Skyrim.
Personally I think that one has nothing to do with the other. Rage was developed by ID software, and they are to blame for the many many issues on the PC, not Bethesda.

That said, I will not be pre-ordering Skyrim or any other game in the near future. I will wait for at least a couple of months after release before I buy it, after a few patches have been made and the nastier bugs have been fixed. That way I'll be buying a much more refined, polished and tested game at half the price you paid for it.

Finally,
Someone with logic and common sense.

I seriously doubt any one from Bethesda actually went to Obsidian to make sure the game was up to standards. I'm sure they (Bethesda) left it to in house testers at Obsidian for quality control. And the issue is the developing studio not the publisher. The same team behind Fallout 3 is not the same team as the New Vegas team, so no, there is no reason to be afraid.

Question seems a bit loaded. Bethesda has had problems, but in general their games are ok.
Most likely I will get Skyrim but not on release day. Prudence dictates waiting to see how things
go. And how things go with those using a Radeon 4850 graphics card. I want to see feedback
before I spend money. That being said, if all looks positive then yes I will get Skyrim.