your talking about new vegas.. first off it was not bethesda that made New Vegas it was Obsidian Entertainment that made new Vegas, they will be using fallout 3 which was the best out of the two. but its only the leveling system and perks that they are using from fallout 3. relax dude it wont be like NV and svck worriedly

I've pre-ordered mines already

New Vegas would have gotten more critical acclaim than Fallout 3 if it had a few less bugs and game critics are open-minded enough to realize COD isn't the definition of gaming. NV sold more copies than FO3, btw.
New Vegas improves upon everything Fallout 3 lacked, good story, good writing, great characters, weapons that were not wet-noodles, more weapons, insane amount of crafting choices from ammo types to exotic weapon binding ritual to crafting super deadly explosives to making food that heals you in a nanosecond for a long time to tanning gecko hides under a campfire, fewer and more powerful perks that help you roleplay and not just add points to your skills, and traits.

Fallout 3 is still a great game, though.

I'm just going to point out here, if you think Bethesda is bad......

EA. That is all.

And if you think EA is bad....

Activision

EA killed the amazing Tiberium universe with CNC4....worst game I ever played in my life. CNC3 + Kane's Wrath would have been the best strategy game ever made if they properly supported it and marketed it well.

dude have you played another Obsidian game? its about the same with the problems they had on new veges with the lag and tech problems. don't blame the publisher for the their job. blame them. they had the time and money to make the game into something much better and they drop the ball. Bethesda is much more better to there company like activities(which sued the guys that made MW2 and screw over there workers btw) or MC(which has to have everything to do with the game example is halo) Obsidian had the time and money and they made a... i don't wanna say bad game but it was not like fallout 3 was for me. i am glad that they are using the same team that made oblivion and fallout 3 to make this game

...You do realize Obsidian Entertainment is comprised of the original owners and developers of the Fallout series, right? Also how, minus the bugs, (that were mostly due to Gamebyro being complete crap) New Vegas was a better, true to the series game than Fallout 3? Also, in my experience, New Vegas was far less buggy than Fallout 3, I never encountered a single bug in New Vegas.
So, don't talk about Fallout standards if you don't even know where it originated.

What "you seriously think" is irrelevant......the difference between Fallout 3 and Fallout NV, and thus, between Bethesda and Obsidian, can be demonstrated by playing the games (which I assume you did).


Which of those games has more stability?

Why don't people ever learn? Bethesda didn't make New Vegas, they published it. The developers are http://www.obsidianent.com/, those who made Neverwinter Nights 2, Knights of the old republic 2 and so on... I also think they made a better job than bethesda with FO3... it was more of a true fallout experience.

Every problem I have every had with Bethesda games have been eventually patched. I can't say that for all game companies and for me that support alone makes it worth buying as a pre-order.

Not to mention them being one of only few who offer modding tools. That speaks volumes.

I'm just going to point out here that it's the consumer that's bad, seriously, the companies know they can get away with it because folk will open their wallets for just about anything that appears cool or flashy, got a problem, then vote with your wallet.

i don't know about the bugs part....Fallout 3 had very few bugs. But New Vegas is an A+++ game built on a crap engine.

And that's why EALA doesn't exist anymore. The makers of the burned game that is CNC4. Now it's "Victory Sutdios" and everyone from EALA lost their jobs. Yeah, I'll believe the change in philosophy to not screw me over again when I see the gameplay demos.

People really need to learn the difference between a developer and a publisher.

Nothing can be perfect with a game of this size. And personally I never played Fallout: NV because it wasn't actually done by Bethesda. So, I have no beef against Bethesda and look forward to Skyrim and all their future RPG's.

Exactly!

Hang on i thought Bethesda didnt do New vegas, it was Obsidion

I am always amazed that people supposedly not buying Skyrim come to here to tell everyone. Thanks for letting us know.

I predict you buy it within 1 week week of release. Either that or you already preordered and are just trolling.

I rarely see someone actually being sincere with posts like this, so I tend to agree.

To all the smart ones out there! Bethesda publishes games and they only make TES games themselves...

I'm getting Skyrim because I love The Elder Scrolls and Bethesda. I love everything they do, regardless of what happens (like, they're bad animation - hopefully Skyrim is ending, btw). Also because of the hope that Skyrim is double-backing to Morrowind's style, somewhat.




As I like to say, if Oblivion looked like Oblivion but was Morrowind, I'd still be playing it, from release till 11/11.

No, Bethesda Game Studios did make Fallout 3. Just not New Vegas.

Morrowind was an amazing game when it was released compare it to other games that came out at the time I'm getting skyrim cause of that