An Idea of how Vampires and Werewolves Could Have Been Done. : V - Skyrim

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:13 pm

I don't think WWs of VLs should take damage while transforming. This would make them more viable in combat.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:11 am

Come on, really? It takes two seconds to do.

Yes I find it annoying I don't why but it is to me.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:32 pm

I don't think WWs of VLs should take damage while transforming. This would make them more viable in combat.

I used to think the same thing, but now, I think its fine, cuz it makes the player think where and when is it appropriate to use your transformation, which to me is a good thing, so people arent using them in every single battle.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:48 am

I don't think WWs of VLs should take damage while transforming. This would make them more viable in combat.

Then they will be over-powered because there will be one less weakness. Being vulnerable while transforming was the point.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:37 pm

Then they will be over-powered because there will be one less weakness. Being vulnerable while transforming was the point.

Yeah, that's the one feature that will make them over powered. They're pretty much useless as it is. I'm just trying to give them some use.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:37 am

Yeah, that's the one feature that will make them over powered. They're pretty much useless as it is. I'm just trying to give them some use.

Lets not start this again. They're NOT useless. Far from it if u know how to use them wisely.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:57 am

Yeah, that's the one feature that will make them over powered. They're pretty much useless as it is. I'm just trying to give them some use.

Vampire lord and werewolf useless? Is this a joke? I can't tell if you are being serious.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:32 am

Yeah, that's the one feature that will make them over powered. They're pretty much useless as it is. I'm just trying to give them some use.

You sure your using them correctly?

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:42 am

Vampire lord and werewolf useless? Is this a joke? I can't tell if you are being serious.

I know, they are far from useless and they do not need to be invincible while transforming.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:02 pm

Come on, really? It takes two seconds to do.

The whole werewolf deequiping everything when transforming becomes tiresome after a while, because you have to sort through all your items/powers to reequip the ones you wanted. If you were able to favorite complete ensembles including equipment/weapons/armor and powers, so you could reequip everything all at once with the touch of a button, it would make things much nicer, and not just for werewolves.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:18 am

The whole werewolf deequiping everything when transforming becomes tiresome after a while, because you have to sort through all your items/powers to reequip the ones you wanted. If you were able to favorite complete ensembles including equipment/weapons/armor and powers, so you could reequip everything all at once with the touch of a button, it would make things much nicer, and not just for werewolves.

Sounds a bit lazy to me. To each his own. I wont say no to the idea though. Just sounds unnecessary to me. They could just make it to where everything stays on like Farkas does. And since VL's keep their clothes on.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:09 am

The whole werewolf deequiping everything when transforming becomes tiresome after a while, because you have to sort through all your items/powers to reequip the ones you wanted. If you were able to favorite complete ensembles including equipment/weapons/armor and powers, so you could reequip everything all at once with the touch of a button, it would make things much nicer, and not just for werewolves.

I think re equiping items is the price of being a werewolf I did not like the price so I stopped being one. :biggrin:

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:20 am

Sounds a bit lazy to me. To each his own. I wont say no to the idea though. Just sounds necessary to me. They could just make it to where everything stays on like Farkas does. And since VL's keep their clothes on.

I think it's basic design interface really. The less buttons you have to press to execute commands that you use frequently, the better. That's the entire point of shortcuts in the first place.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:56 am

Vampire lord and werewolf useless? Is this a joke? I can't tell if you are being serious.

When compared to the normal character yes they are useless. I've used both, and I much prefer to play as my normal character, because he's much stronger, and less restricted. A lot more useful overall.

But, this is all off topic. Sorry about that.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:41 pm

I think it's basic design interface really. The less buttons you have to press to execute commands that you use frequently, the better. That's the entire point of shortcuts in the first place.

Still, all u have to do is press b, then a a couple times to equip. Hardly a problem. What I wish they'd do is let me customize my werewolf, as far as color and size goes. Maybe eye color and scars too.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:39 am

Still, all u have to do is press b, then a a couple times to equip. Hardly a problem. What I wish they'd do is let me customize my werewolf, as far as color and size goes. Maybe eye color and scars too.

Maybe not customisable but maybe different races have different looking werewolves in size and color?

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:58 am

Maybe not customisable but maybe different races have different looking werewolves in size and color?

As long as it isn't things like green werewolves for the Argonians and stuff like that, I'd be mostly okay with different races having different models for their werewolf forms.

I think it would be cool to see various skins of werewolves in general though. Black wolves, arctic wolves, timber wolves, etc could be different designs for the werewolves.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:06 am

The equip thing doesn't matter much to me since I've played more time as a wolf than as my Khajiit. When I do change back I'll have all my equipment in favorites (strictly my equipment besides Fire Breath) to enter towns or start quests. Once I leave I'm back to going wolf, travel is quicker, I get no bounties mauling people, I'm probably much stronger as a wolf (armor and damage wise) than I am as Dovakiin.

Maybe not customisable but maybe different races have different looking werewolves in size and color?

No that's false. My Khajiit (female) wolf form looks like my Nord (male) wolf form is size and color. They both look gray and are the same size third person view wise.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:36 am

No that's false. My Khajiit (female) wolf form looks like my Nord (male) wolf form is size and color. They both look gray and are the same size third person view wise.

Pretty sure they were putting that forth as a suggestion, rather than saying that's the way things currently are.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:19 am

Sounded like a question. That'd be nice if we could do that though. Nords would probably be Ice WW, redguard plains wolves, etc.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:04 am

Different skins would be nice as long as it isn't over the top. I think they should add more effects on your normal character rather than just disease immunity. Maybe increased speed and strength, and a type of hunter vision that lets you see more clearly in the dark and it detects life.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:02 am

Perks from the WW tree can do that detect life already. The night vision thing would be useful if it actually got dark in Skyrim, I have no use for my Khajiits Night Eye since my game is bright enough to see no matter if its dark or not.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:28 am

Different skins would be nice as long as it isn't over the top. I think they should add more effects on your normal character rather than just disease immunity. Maybe increased speed and strength, and a type of hunter vision that lets you see more clearly in the dark and it detects life.

There is a Night Eye ability for Werewolves in the game's code (works the same as the Khajiit's racial power and the vampire variant) but it was cut for unknown reasons. That's on my wishlist for the lycanthropes, along with enhanced unarmed combat and some other abilities added to human form.

Perks from the WW tree can do that detect life already. The night vision thing would be useful if it actually got dark in Skyrim, I have no use for my Khajiits Night Eye since my game is bright enough to see no matter if its dark or not.

He's talking about in your untransformed state.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:41 am

Perks from the WW tree can do that detect life already. The night vision thing would be useful if it actually got dark in Skyrim, I have no use for my Khajiits Night Eye since my game is bright enough to see no matter if its dark or not.

Yeah, nighteye is pretty useless in Skyrim since it doesn't get that dark. Even in dungeons it doesn't get that dark.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:14 am

Yeah, nighteye is pretty useless in Skyrim since it doesn't get that dark. Even in dungeons it doesn't get that dark.

It'd still be nice for rp purposes. And I've heard Dawnguard has darkened the dungeons.