An Idea of how Vampires and Werewolves Could Have Been Done. : V - Skyrim

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:42 am

The devs contradict themselves. The in game books are different from what is actually put in. I'm betting the reason they put Volkihar in is because they are supposed to be the strongest clan, so they named higher level vamps Volkihar.

They did not really contradict themselves, nothing says that the volkihar cannot behave the way they do in skyrim ergo not really lore breaking but as I have said to drake, feeding is a problem though and that needs to be changed. Now I remember saying getting back to the topic at hand so lets do so please. This topic is about how vampires and werewolves can be improves, not about what kind of vampire is in skyrim.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:34 am

I kinda agree with mort on this yes the volk vampires are not what we expected given the information in the books but they are still volk vampires thats why bethesda gave them that name. Do I like it? no I don't but just because I don't like it does not mean that they are not volk vampires.

No i am saying that Beth made a new game, they added Vamps with the correct name for the region but instead of adapting to their lore-correct style they just Copy and pasted OB's Order with minor tweaks and painted it with a big V

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:40 pm

They did not really contradict themselves, nothing says that the volkihar cannot behave the way they do in skyrim ergo not really lore breaking but as I have said to drake, feeding is a problem though and that needs to be changed. Now I remember saying getting back to the topic at hand so lets do so please. This topic is about how vampires and werewolves can be improves, not about what kind of vampire is in skyrim.

They can be improved by BEING VOLKIHAR

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:56 am

They put them in to fit with the Skyrim specific name but they were to lazy to make a new system for the vamps, They are the Order in skyrim stealing the name of Volkihar, it is obvious so take off the Beth-is-Righteous goggles and look again

No, that is just a [censored] fan belief, they are the volkihar. Devs carry more weight than you, so if they intentionally put volkihar in there, then they are volkihar. Now for the last time, let us get back on topic.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:27 am

I kinda agree with mort on this yes the volk vampires are not what we expected given the information in the books but they are still volk vampires thats why bethesda gave them that name. Do I like it? No I don't but just because I don't like it does not mean that they are not volk vampires. There are things bethesda could improve with them as mort suggested but they are still volk vampires.

Beth gave them the name, because they're supposed to be the strongest clan. So, they name higher level enemies Volkihar, and make Harkon and his court Volkihar simply because they appear more powerful due to the VL form.

Quite simply it's Cyrodiil vampires being called Volkihar. The most obvious example of this is the feeding system. I most certainly agree with mort and Rel that the Cyrodiil vampire feeding system has to go.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:43 pm

I'm sure someone's gonna rage on me for saying this, but I want Serana or any companion to be able to ride on my head as a werewolf! Like a mount! And she can shoot magic on top of my head while I rip [censored] up!

PS, why hasnt Beth thought of letting your follower ride on the back of your horse?

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:43 pm

I'm sure someone's gonna rage on me for saying this, but I want Serana or any companion to be able to ride on my head as a werewolf! Like a mount! And she can shoot magic on top of my head while I rip [censored] up!

PS, why hasnt Beth thought of letting your follower ride on the back of your horse?

Dafuq? I cant even picture that

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:45 am

Well volk does have a resistance to frost and the cyrodil vampires don't so thats one difference.

well lets get back ontopic if bethesda cannot add the phasing through ice what they should of done is given volk bonus damage to their frost spells/shouts and as mort said fix the backwards feeding.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:01 am

Beth gave them the name, because they're supposed to be the strongest clan. So, they name higher level enemies Volkihar, and make Harkon and his court Volkihar simply because they appear more powerful due to the VL form.

They all have the same appearance, powers and weaknesses, now can we please get back on topic or do I have to get a admin in here.
You want to talk about vamp types, them make a new thread please this is about improving vampires and werewolves.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:59 am

Dafuq? I cant even picture that

Lolz, piggyback ride.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:32 am

I'm sure someone's gonna rage on me for saying this, but I want Serana or any companion to be able to ride on my head as a werewolf! Like a mount! And she can shoot magic on top of my head while I rip [censored] up!

PS, why hasnt Beth thought of letting your follower ride on the back of your horse?

What? *shakes head*

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:22 am

They all have the same appearance, powers and weaknesses, now can we please get back on topic or do I have to get a admin in here.
You want to talk about vamp types, them make a new thread please this is about improving vampires and werewolves.

I already stated that: Vamps in Skyrim can be imprved by being VOLKIHAR, ask an admin, it is a valid suggestion

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:59 am

What? *shakes head*

I know. Stupid phantasy of mine...

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:06 am

So no one thinks it'd be cool to give your companion a piggyback ride on u while ur in werewolf form? Especially hot Serana? *Crickets* Like a mount, but you're the mount.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:47 am

I already stated that: Vamps in Skyrim can be imprved by being VOLKIHAR, ask an admin, it is a valid suggestion

They are already the volkihar, the just need tuning up. Now I am going to assume you all going to be decent folk and get back on topic otherwise I will have to get an admin down here to warn you all to stay on topic.

Next response should be how you would like to improve werewolves or vampires. I.e powers, feeding, weaknesses etc

Yes colonelbee that was strange but quite droll.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:23 pm

So no one thinks it'd be cool to give your companion a piggyback ride on u while ur in werewolf form? Especially hot Serana? *Crickets* Like a mount, but you're the mount.

I doubt a werewolf would like being treated as a horse.
Forced monthly transformations is needed.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:47 am

The current feeding system definitely has to go. I'm tired of being a Cyrodilic vampire. I support all of the OPs ideas.

By the way does anybody know if Movarth got glowing eyes?

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:57 pm

They are already the volkihar, the just need tuning up. Now I am going to assume you all going to be decent folk and get back on topic otherwise I will have to get an admin down here to warn you all to stay on topic.

Next response should be how you would like to improve werewolves or vampires. I.e powers, feeding, weaknesses etc

Yes colonelbee that was strange but quite droll.

Ice Form spell, Frost cloak spell, Mist form spell, removal of blending in, removal of calm spell, removal of invisibility spell, bat-face

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:51 am

They are already the volkihar, the just need tuning up. Now I am going to assume you all going to be decent folk and get back on topic otherwise I will have to get an admin down here to warn you all to stay on topic.

Next response should be how you would like to improve werewolves or vampires. I.e powers, feeding, weaknesses etc

Yes colonelbee that was strange but quite droll.

This thread is how vampires and werewolves could've been done. We are all discussing that. If you don't like what we have to say then maybe this thread isn't for you.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:29 am

Ice Form spell, Frost cloak spell, Mist form spell, removal of blending in, removal of calm spell, removal of invisibility spell, bat-face

I agree with most of that, the bat-face is something I would look forward to, I disagree with the removal of the calm spell though, in fact it should be upgraded, it would be a needed spell depending on circumstances and especially if you had a bat-like vamp face
Invisibility spell is something i'm 50/50 on, as it a common vampire power, I think other clans out there had invisibility. It should have a different function maybe.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:00 am

This thread is how vampires and werewolves could've been done. We are all discussing that. If you don't like what we have to say then maybe this thread isn't for you.

No, you were really not, you were talking about the type of vampires in skyrim, not how they could be improved.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:12 am

I agree with most of that, the bat-face is something I would look forward to, I disagree with the removal of the calm spell though, in fact it should be upgraded, it would be a needed spell depending on circumstances and especially if you had a bat-like vamp face
Invisibility spell is something i'm 50/50 on, as it a common vampire power, I think other clans out there had invisibility. It should have a different function maybe.

Mist form is invisible, Volkihar kill their victims rather than seducing them

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:43 am

Werewolves have not been talked about much yet. So much could be done with lycanthropy such as having wild werewolves infecting you.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:59 am

No, you were really not, you were talking about the type of vampires in skyrim, not how they could be improved.

As were YOU

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:03 am

Mist form is invisible, Volkihar kill their victims rather than seducing them

We don't know that for fact and if you had bat-face you would need more than your natural charm to talk to someone. Mist form is black, not invisible (not on my game anyway.)