Now before you people blow this off as just another pervy thread from another pervy guy, hear me out. I want to talk about what nudity would mean for Skyrim. I've seen mods showing up all over the place for nudity in PC versions and people talk about them all over the internets. There are even people who invested in a gaming PC just so they could use those mods for Skyrim. There have even been people requesting the nudity patches for the PS3 and 360. The way I see it there are good and bad sides to this.

Good points
1. Grow up a little. Nudity is not perverted. If prudence was determined by how much clothing someone has on than that would make gimps (people in latex body suits) the most prudish people on the planet.

2. Skyrim is already an M rated game. I know that there are a lot of underaged players but their parents shouldn't have bought it for them.

3. In Skyrim you can already lie, steal, kill and that's the small stuff. In a game that already has cannibalism and slavery I don't think a bare ass or two is really that much of a shock.

4. The Elder Scrolls is part of a genera that already lots and lots of nudity. Don't believe me? Watch Game of Thrones.

5. While I know games with nudity tend to svck because the producers can already count on massive sales regardless -or rather- in spite of the games quality. But Skyrim is already a finished product that is made very well.

6. While I understand there weren't really lightning spells, dragons, lizard people or all those other things in medieval times that doesn't change the fact that there also wasn't any underwear. Underwear wasn't even invented until... what... the Renascence. If PETA was as powerful as the ESRB Bethesda would have to put cars in Skyrim instead of "enslaving" horses.

7. >_> Dat azz <3 *lol*


Bad points
1. in spite of what I said before the sad truth is that far too many people find nudity indistinguishable from overt perversion.

2. A lot of people who will want this will want it for no other reason than to see naked people. For those of you who are of that state of mind; you're already on the internet already, you should know what to do.

3. Bethesda could face public scrutiny for adding nudity to Skyrim. Because the cannibalism and what not are fine and dandy and all.

4. for those of you who have noticed that the first three in this list boil down to "Some people are stupid" and are wondering where such people deserve consideration; stupid people do stupid things, and they do them very loudly. Case and point: Twilight.

5. Bethesda would have to work to make a nudity patch. I know that people have already made patches with the very same features for free but for Bethesda to do it with the same professionalism they've done everything else would require a monetary investment and man hours.


Thoughts?

gonna be honest with you.

No strait male wants to see another mans [censored]. If they added an update that made it so if i pickpocketed the clothes off of a gaurd that he would walk around with his shlong hanging around, I would sell the game.

In all honesty there is absolutely no benefit for having nudity in Skyrim or any game for that matter. It would literally serve no purpose. People, parents, politicians, etc have already shown anger towards this game when you can see women in their burlap underwear. Having full on nudity would do nothing but cause more anger towards a great game. The best it would do is just get the game banned. India banned Fallout 3 from their country because of the two headed cows and they consider cows sacred. People getting angry over nudity or even scantily clad women in games is completely idiotic because apparently it's ok to chop off heads, slit throats, burn people alive, but if there's one nipble we must burn this game to the ground. It's a stupid mentality but it is what it is. If you want nudity in this game, go play on the pc, get the mod, and go to town.

And I really don't think people switched from console to PC just for the nudity mod. They have switched for mods in general, but not just for naked women in Skyrim.

Guess we need a peanut gallery version of such a patch for such males...

I don't mind nudity, but I don't think its really necessary. There are some people who don't want nudity in their games, that's why you have mods for people who do. It doesn't make them prudes they just don't want it.

Is stripping guards down to their loincloths really that important to you?

Even the first few TES games had nudity in them. Specifically Arena, Daggerfall and Battlespire.

i don't think it would really add anything to skyrim, besides oh look boobs. (or oh look a wiener if your in to that sort of thing) I can't really think of any game off the top of my head just to have blatant nudity, if anything its some monster with nips showing, or its a cut scene played for laughs.

well if I plan on going on a crime spree, stripping the gaurds makes them weaker and makes it easier.

but another aurgument, what if I killed a man wearing awesome armor. I want to loot the armor, but i dont want to see his "snake"

So don't look at it.

I agree with this. I don't mind nudity and it's not that I'm "prude", it's just that it would serve no purpose. Would nudity be worth the scrutiny the game would get?

wonder if they'd animate it better than the beast race tails lol

as far as i'm aware, the inclusion of killing children will be made socially allowed way before being able to walk around naked and strip other people down. does not matter, just because the game is rated M, we all know that some kid of the age of 12 will be playing it and their mother will freak out and then sue bethesda because it's in the states and people spill over split coffee and then bethesda gets in trouble then they all get fired then because they got fired over nudity no one will higher them and then when no one highers them they will take what little money they have and go to vegas and gamble it all away and when they have nothing left they will sit at a bus stop and when they sit at a bus stop they will get mugged, when they get mugged then they will wake up in a ditch.

don't let the employees of Bethesda wake up in a ditch, don't ask them to put in nudity.

Adding to the bad points:

6. Depending on what they end up showing,* they could end up slapped with an AO rating (whether that's fair or not). This would automatically result in a lot of places (places which have quite a bit of influence) completely refusing to sell the game, which, as you might expect, would lower sales.

Of course, I personally wouldn't be bothered by it - it's not like it would be the first Elder Scrolls game like that, since Daggerfall and Battlespire had it** - and it'd be a nice touch thanks to the bit you mentioned about middle-ages-style fashions not bothering with proper underclothes, though I wouldn't be pushing for it either (it's a minor thing that I'd rarely see, and I wouldn't be put too much out of it if it wasn't there). Besides, in Skyrim, why would you want to be naked? Tell me when it's a game in a warmer climate, then we can talk.


I don't remember seeing any nudity in Arena... though to be fair I never could get very far into it.

*And of course there's some mixed-up standards involved in precisely what and in which situations. I'd go into more detail but then I'd likely get ranty and nobody would like that.
**Though with some of the same mixed-up standards...

I'm not fond of naked mods. I do download improved bodies though (improved hands/feet) etc because the vanilla ones aren't exactly great.

I wonder what the public reaction was back then with Daggerfall's pixelized boobs?

What purpose would Skyrim nudity serve besides providing 12 year old boys with whack it material?

alright fine. If you want to go stare at some virtual man's dike, or virtual woman's [censored], go play PC.
But i absolutely dont want a porm-game. If Bethesda decides to add this in a patch, I will sell Skyrim, and TESO will probobly be my last TES game.

id like to point out. most 12 year old boys dont "whack it" the "whacking" usually doesnt start till like 13 or 14.

Elsweyr

From one perspective: Nudity has meanings and connotations, depending on the situation and how it's portrayed. Barring it means barring its use as a narrative and characterisation tool (sure, it's often misused or used for other purposes, but so are other narrative tools ). Bethesda can certainly do well enough without it, but there could be some benefit to letting them use it as such. Daggerfall certainly made decent (no pun intended) use of it, for one.


...Considering what we're talking about showing, I'm now getting flashbacks to the uncensored version of The Real Barenziah.

That's a bit childish don't you think?

It varies and is different for everyone. Kids can hit puberty as early as the age of 9.



Damn, 22 people viewing this thread.

I love the XCE mod for this reason. It improves the body, but doesn't get rid of the underwear. If it was Morrowind or Oblivion, I would be fine with ridding the game of underwear since, well... Morrowind's granny panties on men are not nice to look at and Oblivion's loincloth is so heavy it just looks like it may as well be sagging and showing the butt cheeks. Skyrim got the underwear right. The loincloth is not bulky and isn't horrifying to look at. The women's underwear has always been easier on the eyes in all three of the 3D main series games for some reason.

Devs, straight females want sixy loincloths like the ones in Skyrim. Focus more on us more.(I'm kidding)

Maybe their dragon is why they think they are the Dovahkiin?

I want to see how they'd pull it off. Hehe. It'd probably just be barbie and ken doll stuff. Only 2D Castlevania games are allowed to have bewbs.

Yes! Nudity! *Put on Mr.Perv-O hat*.

Man's ding dong? It is virtual, who cares. I want to RP a nvde werewolf chick running through the woods with long hair, but I guess an underwear will suffice for now. If you want nudity though, buy the PC version, because ESRB and those old losers who enforce their idiotic, pointless rules will surely want to make a big fuss about a little briast bouncing and buttocks clapping here and there, not to mention the kids who cry about seeing a female's frontal parts.