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It was just to show that the Adept is a perfectly viable character build as any other.

Yes, but as was posted, it takes a lot of work just to make it compete with the default experience of other classes. A soldier doesn't "need" a mattock to dominate, and he doesn't "need" any sort of bonus power. Same with engineer, sentinel to some degree (Geth Shotgun makes him so much better though), infilitator. Vanguard definitely benefits from stasis to a large degree, but still solid without it.

Adept works now, but if you played it at around release, before the locust, before the mattock, before stasis, it was generally the worst class. I suppose one of the classes is going to end up being the worst, but... I enjoy playing EVERY CLASS EXCEPT ADEPT.... AND I LOVE CC ORIENTED CLASSES. That's just... wrong.

Let me just say all this is applicable just to Insanity. Adept rips stuff up on lower difficulties just fine; it is just the fact that EVERY ENEMY has protection which is the root of the problem. I've got a feeling that the protection issue is going to be somewhat diminished in ME3, but maybe I'm just optimisitic. I want to like playing an Adept in ME3 just like I enjoy every other class.

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Yet another snooty post from Negative Nancy. Why am I not suprized? The point was not to compare the Adept to others. It was just to show that the Adept is a perfectly viable character build as any other.

The Sold is powerful but I don't find them all that. You are limited to not a lot more than pulling a trigger. I'm sure that will be attractive the COD kiddies.

If you are just going to respond with with slamming verbal temper tantrums then don't reply at all.

EDIT : This is the exact reason I left the Boiware Social. What is happening to this younger generation? They have absolutely no respect for others what so ever. It is truly sad, indeed.

Read the first post.

[Miguel]

I'm on the BW forums and they won't let me post at all, can you help?

2 things:

Either you are trying to post on a forum for a game you haven't registered. In that case, you must BUY THE GAME AND PUT THE URL ON THE RECEIPT TO REGISTER TO ACTUALLY POST ON THE FORUMS

The other is that you are banned. In that case, you are S.O.L.

My advice is to stick with this forum.

[Mylizards Dot com]

Yes, but as was posted, it takes a lot of work just to make it compete with the default experience of other classes. A soldier doesn't "need" a mattock to dominate, and he doesn't "need" any sort of bonus power. Same with engineer, sentinel to some degree (Geth Shotgun makes him so much better though), infilitator. Vanguard definitely benefits from stasis to a large degree, but still solid without it.

Adept works now, but if you played it at around release, before the locust, before the mattock, before stasis, it was generally the worst class. I suppose one of the classes is going to end up being the worst, but... I enjoy playing EVERY CLASS EXCEPT ADEPT.... AND I LOVE CC ORIENTED CLASSES. That's just... wrong.

Let me just say all this is applicable just to Insanity. Adept rips stuff up on lower difficulties just fine; it is just the fact that EVERY ENEMY has protection which is the root of the problem. I've got a feeling that the protection issue is going to be somewhat diminished in ME3, but maybe I'm just optimisitic. I want to like playing an Adept in ME3 just like I enjoy every other class.

I started the Adept run just to have something to do and make it challenging. I was told things like, "Adept's are too squishy" and "Set the difficulty low". Ha! Turns out that she wasn't that squishy after all. Oh! far from it. She could shield up and stay in there, right beside Rex and Ashley, with dominating results.

I still enjoyed running her through ME2. You just had to deal with shields. This prompted more control over your squadies and dropping the Shuriken for a better SMG, along with the use of tactical approach. I agree about the DLCs. It would be different without those additions.

EDIT : Funny...I can't remember what my fav weapon was, with the adept. With age comes Short Term Memory Loss, the plus side is that each playthrough has that new feel to it.

Playing the Vanguard has to be my favorite, so far. Nothing can come close to the vibe I get from executing that Charge, followed up with an old school beat down.

I am starting an Engineer run from ME1. We'll see how this pans out.

I'm on the BW forums and they won't let me post at all, can you help?

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My advice is to stick with this forum.

That's very good advice, no matter the issue.

[NeverStopThe]

2 things:

Either you are trying to post on a forum for a game you haven't registered. In that case, you must BUY THE GAME AND PUT THE URL ON THE RECEIPT TO REGISTER TO ACTUALLY POST ON THE FORUMS

The other is that you are banned. In that case, you are S.O.L.

My advice is to stick with this forum.

The first... And that's lame [censored]

[Genocidal Cry]

I started the Adept run just to have something to do and make it challenging. I was told things like, "Adept's are too squishy" and "Set the difficulty low". Ha! Turns out that she wasn't that squishy after all. Oh! far from it. She could shield up and stay in there, right beside Rex and Ashley, with dominating results.

I still enjoyed running her through ME2. You just had to deal with shields. This prompted more control over your squadies and dropping the Shuriken for a better SMG, along with the use of tactical approach. I agree about the DLCs. It would be different without those additions.

EDIT : Funny...I can't remember what my fav weapon was, with the adept. With age comes Short Term Memory Loss, the plus side is that each playthrough has that new feel to it.

Playing the Vanguard has to be my favorite, so far. Nothing can come close to the vibe I get from executing that Charge, followed up with an old school beat down.

I am starting an Engineer run from ME1. We'll see how this pans out.



That's very good advice, no matter the issue.

Did you do it on insane? If so that's where the problem lies. If not then it would be more balanced. Really Adept on insane is the only thing I had wrong with them. Here's to hoping they buff them in ME3, but somewhere I doubt it.

Well I hate to do this after my yarr harr boast earlier int he series. But I will buy Mass Effect 3. I despise Origins strong arm tactics, virus like behaviour, and EA being overall evil. Except I have to finish this game. So the once in my lifetime exception will be Mass Effect 3. Once I beat it, it will be uninstalled and origins as well. I'll also be running Mass Effect 3 in sanboxie to make sure it can't take any info I don't want it to have. EA, you got lucky. This is the only time you will ever get me to buy a game on your platform. Once Shepards story is done, I'm through with EA. Eugh... I feel disgusted to do this. Except I know I have the willpower to not play any of their other games.

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I feel so skeezy for buying this, but then again I passed by all of their other Origins only games.

[Jerry Cox]

Hmm... so am I gimping myself not to raise a bit of stasis and not getting the DLC?

I just love Shockwave+Throw, seeing them bounce around is just fun, although useless.

Getting some trouble with insane mod on my Adept, I don't know how that guy in video could sustain so many hits without dying. My Adept poke out her head once to get singularity out and that was enough to blow off her shield and 2/3 of health. Not saying I don't enjoy this class but I really wonder how those videos work.

[Meghan Terry]

Hmm... so am I gimping myself not to raise a bit of stasis and not getting the DLC?

I just love Shockwave+Throw, seeing them bounce around is just fun, although useless.

Getting some trouble with insane mod on my Adept, I don't know how that guy in video could sustain so many hits without dying. My Adept poke out her head once to get singularity out and that was enough to blow off her shield and 2/3 of health. Not saying I don't enjoy this class but I really wonder how those videos work.

It would be easy enough to fake. Not to mention DLC stuff can be overpowered. You CAN beat the game without stasis, the matttock or locust. But it will be a tough experience compared to other classes. Get good with singularity/warp combo. Also get really good at kiting and dodging.

[Scarlet Devil]

Did you do it on insane? If so that's where the problem lies. If not then it would be more balanced. Really Adept on insane is the only thing I had wrong with them. Here's to hoping they buff them in ME3, but somewhere I doubt it.

I'll also be running Mass Effect 3 in sanboxie to make sure it can't take any info I don't want it to have.

Yes. As a matter of fact, I got the Insanity run Achievement with her. Not that I care in the slightest about those meaningless things, but ME made it a little interesting to get them by rewarding with perks. Granted she wasn't the exact dominating force she was in ME1, but still it provided the challenge I was looking for and it was fun doing it.

Again, the DLC prizes made it more enjoyable, instead of a sheer pain.

I will be moving from the console to PC soon and look forward to getting this for PC well. I am not that CPU savvy, so all this Steam and Origin stuff is new to me. You mentioning this Sandboxie, has sparked my interest in researching this Big Brother type image, that playing while connected brings.

Thank you for mentioning it.

Hmm... so am I gimping myself not to raise a bit of stasis and not getting the DLC?

I just love Shockwave+Throw, seeing them bounce around is just fun, although useless.

Getting some trouble with insane mod on my Adept, I don't know how that guy in video could sustain so many hits without dying. My Adept poke out her head once to get singularity out and that was enough to blow off her shield and 2/3 of health. Not saying I don't enjoy this class but I really wonder how those videos work.

It would be easy enough to fake. Not to mention DLC stuff can be overpowered. You CAN beat the game without stasis, the matttock or locust. But it will be a tough experience compared to other classes. Get good with singularity/warp combo. Also get really good at kiting and dodging.

Very true, and squad usage. I had Miranda on about every mission. Her Overload and SMG support proved vital at dealing with Shields. Plus the extra Warp was blistering on Barriers and Armor. The added bonuses, she provides was also a welcome.

I have had several discussions with that guy. He is a large figure in the Bioware community, where he has threads devoted to detailing out the strategies and builds for several classes. They proved to be very helpful in my playthrough.

[Monika]

I beat the game on Insanity on my own on day 1 as an Adept. Anyways I got sandboxie running, origins is running in it fine, it logs in fine. Then I try use the store, no such luck. I figure I set something wrong. So I fiddle. Lo and behold! It was just origins being a pile of crap, and the store wouldn't work. I really should have seen that coming.

Steam is the holy grail of PC gaming. It has a few minor problems here and there, but by a large margin an amazing service. Great deals on games, all games in one place, plentys of social tools, vast expansive catalogue, and used by the majority of PC gamers. So it's got a large community. It does happen to be a form of DRM, but at least is makes it clear. You can install a game simply by downloading it. It is region locked however which svcks. Few other minor things, but overall a good thing to have. I can see some people not wanting it though, and it svcks to be them because Steam is pretty big presence in the world of PC gaming. It's a service.

Origin is not a service. Really, it's a platform to try and foist EA's games on us. They want to keep all the profits for themselves. I have no problem with this, what I do is them strong arming people to use their service. Now instead of being able to have their game son Steam with my vast catalogue of games I have to go to them just for Mass Effect 3. Not to mention EA as a company is pretty evil, numerous things monthly with this company. Few can surpass their malice. Scanning the whole computer, pile of junk program forced to make you play, tons of BS dlc to cut up games, and generally bad ass crap ness. It's not much of a choice between Steam and Origin. Steam wins hands down. Even many of the people who hate online services grudgingly admit Steam is the lesser of the two evils (in their eyes).

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Sandboxie is a way to limit what a program can access on your computer. A quick google will yield more information/links. Steam I have no problem with, EA and their origins client I DO have a problem with.

[Alisia Lisha]

I beat the game on Insanity on my own on day 1 as an Adept. Anyways I got sandboxie running, origins is running in it fine, it logs in fine. Then I try use the store, no such luck. I figure I set something wrong. So I fiddle. Lo and behold! It was just origins being a pile of crap, and the store wouldn't work. I really should have seen that coming.

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Sandboxie is a way to limit what a program can access on your computer. A quick google will yield more information/links. Steam I have no problem with, EA and their origins client I DO have a problem with.

1 day?! I must spent at least 60 hrs getting through 1 run of each game. I can't imagine blasting through ME2 in a day. Then again I am not a real fan of shooters, but the RPG story drew me in. The same for FO.

I briefly combed a small article on Sandboxie. Seeing how it seems to isolate the intended program and or file/files. Couldn't one do something similar by installing Origins and ME3 in ( I hope I'm not sounding like a 1st grader ) a "partitioned" section of the hard drive? OR on a separate HD all together.

I am looking to set up an SSD for the OS and have a separate mechanical HD for other files and games. Couldn't you just have another one designated for Origin and ME3, with nothing else on it?

[Chad Holloway]

Are you trying to turn this thread into a steam vs Origins?

Note: I remember Steam when it was Beta and it was much worse then Origins, way worse. And Origins is still in a beta stage.

Mass Effect character all ready to go. Two Females, two males. Each one has been played in a diffrent way and all on insanity. ME3 bring it on.

[Benji]

Right but Steam was revolutionary. You wouldn't expect the ipod touch to lead the pack back when they first got invented would you? It was breaking new ground. Now that it's become the standard you should launch with as much as it has or not at all. You can't really begin to compete unless you can offer the same services. It's got a tiny amount of games, terrible downloading that I hear drops and I can believe it considering I can't get the store to work for me. The only way it's been able to gain any momentum is the sheer bulk and size of its games. It will withhold them from Steam the largest competitor and forcibly package their crapware into games. I know Steam does this too, but as a client it you know. Works. Like take for example the great support I got. They told me to log out and log back in even though I was in the live chat stream with ea support. I asked if it would exit the chat. They lied and said no, so now I'm going to have to wait to get in support line all over again. Steam has solved all my problems quite handily. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/9359-Dear-Origin-You-Stink

It's like subscribing to a magazine, except the competitors is in beta. Meaning it's got holes all over the pages, some of them stick together, and no one gives a rats ass about helping you. Yet you buy it for the the "exclusive" demos or something.

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Anyways I'm not going to clog this thread with any more origins rants. I think most people know by now.

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Must resist punching origins people in the face. This is why it won't work. Because it's been tied up in a tnalge of all EA's OTHER download managers from 2000-present day. Meaning it's a tangled mess on their end of accounts, gamer tags, and passwords. No wonder why unifying it is going pretty poorly. I made a new acount and I can access the store fine. I use my existing one and boom. All of a sudden it stops working. What a weird conundrum. Also I officially know more than the EA support people.

[Catharine Krupinski]

I can't imagine blasting through ME2 in a day.

Yeah, my insanity playthroughs are about 25-30 hours, although I like to do everything. I guess it might be possible to blow through the campaign with a very long gaming session and only doing the minimum number of loyalty missions.

[Céline Rémy]

Oh about the insanity run, yea it was a day. I listened to all the dialogue too, and did all the side quests and everything. It was an epic run for the records. It may have been just over a day slightly. In the 28 hour range, but it was all one continuous session.

[Chloe Botham]

Oh about the insanity run, yea it was a day. I listened to all the dialogue too, and did all the side quests and everything. It was an epic run for the records. It may have been just over a day slightly. In the 28 hour range, but it was all one continuous session.

Whoa. I could not play a video game for 28 straight O_O

[{Richies Mommy}]

Oh my god... do not go to the bioware character discussion board. Ughhh... the **** is wrong with those moderators? They let a plot bomb as big as the Snake Raiden switch up just sit out in the open. Mother... ugh.

[Anthony Rand]

Oh my god... do not go to the bioware character discussion board. Ughhh... the **** is wrong with those moderators? They let a plot bomb as big as the Snake Raiden switch up just sit out in the open. Mother... ugh.

This close to release, it is best to avoid the associated developer's forum for any game.

[Catherine Harte]

Just seen the final squadmates. It's almost lal my hated characters, weeeee. Liara is ewww. so crazy. Tali is eww. James vega is a newb. Looks like it will be Garrus and Ashley for me. Garrus is awesome, ashley less so after ME2 madfe her seem so whiney and self centered. There's the two hidden squadmates that I won't spoil, one of them I wont take. The other will likely replace Ashley.

[Lewis Morel]

This close to release, it is best to avoid the associated developer's forum for any game.

The general forum, I been hanging out there for a while. About a couple months without anything serious. The character forum, it is just so blatantly sitting out in the open, it is awful.

And gamgee, seeing those squaddies didn't bother you? One isn't so bad, I mean it kind of makes since in a cliche sort of way, but the other one... I don't know. Pretty big in my opinion.

[Killer McCracken]

Nope they both make sense, and were hinted at.

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I speculated on one of them being alive way back at the end of Mass Effect 1. The other makes perfect sense from a military perspective. Humans respond better to beautiful people, and it`s an espionage bot. Not a six bot contrary to most knee jerk reactions. It`s according to what I`ve dug up is able to emulate skin/clothing. How it does this remains to be seen. Is it built in feature to change disguises on the fly? Or does it require a seperate machine to overlay the skin on it? Either way it makes perfect sense to have a robot as surveilance device, we do it all the time now. It's only going to become more prominent http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/x-47b-military-drone-heading-to-aircraft-carriers-in-2013-can-perform-aerial-refueling-20111013/Why is it a female? Many possible reasons, likely that was what was needed. Perhaps EDI with growing intellect wanted it? Who knows, only speculation. But it would be a very effective addition to any crew. I would have liked for it to be more moroph T-1000 like though being able to assume a male or demale figure. It would also be funny to have two AI in control of it to maximize chaos and make it harder to pin down for opposing forces. It would also enable funny and witty banter between both sides of the unit in between missions EDI and I guess we`ll call the hypothetical male ai HAL. Just how she was interacting and growing as a personality I could tell she would have a larger role. Granted it wasn't as much hard evidence, and more tv tropes evidence. But it was there. Scary fact? In the far flung future if we ever make it there, if we can all upload to the inernet on a conscious level. What does it matter what you are? How could you tell? Your just meaningless data that has no correlation to waht you were. I find the EDI/Joker relationship a first step on that path, just beginning to explore that idea. Good odds that far in the future if we exist it won't really matter what you are in a relationship. But that's all hypothetical.

Back to the prothean is makes perfect sense. They`ve been able to produce structures that last for how long? At least a billion years or so, because they're still standing since the last reaper invasion. We've seen first hand stasis pods, and we also know a Prothean made it back to the Citadel. It seems kind of obvious at least one if not a few more survive. We also know there's areas on the citadel Keepers don't allow anyone to go. It could EASILY be hidden away there until it could make plans to move somewhere else in the universe. Then you have to think this Prothean is THE smartest or among the top 24 smartest of their species. Do you have any idea what kind of intellect we're talking here? Likely the one who reverese engineered the Mass Relay and lead the team or wa son the team to construct the conduit. Prothean are nothing if not long term planners, look at Ilos. Is it THAT far out of reaosn for one to exist? Especially when all it has left is time, knowledge, and the will to avenge its species/save the galaxy? Seen it coming a mile away, I was just waiting for this. The one thing I also expect are the Protheans werent one single unanimous species, but a disparate bunch. Hence the tentacle head ones on Ilos and the bug ones. And who knows how many. It makes perfect sense.

[Jonathan Windmon]

Just seen the final squadmates. It's almost lal my hated characters, weeeee. Liara is ewww. so crazy. Tali is eww. James vega is a newb. Looks like it will be Garrus and Ashley for me. Garrus is awesome, ashley less so after ME2 madfe her seem so whiney and self centered. There's the two hidden squadmates that I won't spoil, one of them I wont take. The other will likely replace Ashley.

You make me sad.

[Kirsty Wood]

Liara is so boring oh my god. Just feel like bashing my head on the wall talking to a chalk board. She went from shy awkward to crazy ice queen back to... I dunno man. She's been the least consistent character. And one of the least interesting, oh boo hoo your friend was kidnapped liara. Oh noes. I kind of hand to freaking nuke a planet full of innocent Batarians and all sorts of stuff. Don't see me going all freaky obsesive. She's a control freak and probably just a tad egotistical, or crazy.

Tali I hate less so as Tali and because I have to put up with everyone not shutting up about her. I really thought I migh tlike Tali as a character until people kept cramming their opinion down my throat. Even the majority of my friends would never shut up about her for a period of 3 months. It's only enough to drive me insane when they constantly talked about her.

[Cayal]

In my first playthrough of, my char done the big nasty with Liara.

After that the only other time was my Adept Femshep. Only because it was the only female option.

[Emma Louise Adams]

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I know the Prothean was POSSIBLE, I'm not arguing that, I'm just saying... it is still a pretty damn big spoiler. It feels as big of a plot bomb as finding out the Collectorss were Protheans. Sort of an important moment in the universe.

The EDI thing I don't mind. Cliche, but meh.

@ Liara: I like her. It feels like character development to me - very shy at first, but she grows more confident on her journey to becoming

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the Shadow Broker.

Her detachment is in a way emulating YOU, the most confident and able person she knows. Sure, deep down you do have feelings, but you hide them from your squadmates for the most part.

She doesn't know you actually feel anything unless you romance her. If you did romance her, she is detached because she had to bear the thought her lover died. It makes sense either way.

I think at the end of the DLC when you let her know how you're REALLY feeling, I think that probably softens her a bit.