Mass Effect Thread #54

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:38 pm

Well Dark I can see that all going out the Window since it starts on earth, and apparently despite the entire galaxy being under seige, you're gathering ships from other races equally under fire just to help your own world :teehee: so it looks like it'll end at earth as well.

where in ME1 Earth was just a side story, a place far and distant for a bit of the game and you were just one of many Humans if not THE icon of Humans rising up and making themselves known, you were an aspect of what Humans could bring to the table and even the added bonus of saving everyones asses.

ME2, I believe the word "Humanity" was spammed about 80 times from TIM alone, not to mention Harbingers brown nosing of shepard and piddling on all the other races, not to mention one of the few races to "maybe" put up a decent fight to the reapers (ok not really) are turned into Grasshoppers, are given the smallest of small snippets and then exploded and done... I didn't particularly enjoy ME2's focus or story over all, I still dont understand the aspects people are talking about when they say ME2's story was better than one >_>

and now finally ME3 runs around, we visit the homeworld of 2 other races -directly- and its wasted on them getting trampled. I hope Bioware continues the series with new installments and dive deeper into the ME universe
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:28 am

Can you only play as a human in the MP?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:30 am

Can you only play as a human in the MP?

Each class starts with a human option. You can unlock another human option and two aliens.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:14 pm

I still dont understand the aspects people are talking about when they say ME2's story was better than one >_>
Indeed. My two favourite Bioware games (have never played the Baldur's Gate games :() are KOTOR and Mass 1. I've put that down to the plot twists that drastically alter your perception of the story towards the end of the game. In KOTOR, discovering
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was pretty monolithic to how you saw your character, and indeed in how you viewed the galaxy and your impact on it. In Mass Effect, the conversation with Sovereign in which you learn about the Reapers, and that Saren is nothing but a tool, completely alters the focus of the game. The goal post has shifted. It's not about stopping Saren so much anymore, but surviving annihilation from an unimaginable force that countless previous galactic civilizations failed to survive.

Every other Bioware game I've played lacks that twist. The goal is laid out before you at the start of the game, and the vast majority of your game time is spent getting there. In Mass 2 that time is merely spent gathering an army. In Dragon Age Origins it's merely spent... gathering an army. The goal post remains in the same place throughout the entire experience. Nothing shocking occurs. Their games are padded with side quests (or coincidental short stories in DAO's case) to add content and beef up the play time, despite the fact that those side quests actually the hinder the pacing of the main narrative. Bioware just don't seem capable of writing a long and winding story.

I mainly blame this view on my first RPGs being JRPGs. So while some of my friends grew up playing Baldur's Gate, I grew up playing Final Fantasy. FF games feature extraordinarily long storylines, where the goal posts are constantly shifting. The games have far fewer side quests than Bioware games (13 had none until the very end) but create long and complex stories that explore their worlds and characters to make up that time. I'd love to see Bioware try their hand at crafting an 80 hour RPG without being 80% filler for once.

and now finally ME3 runs around, we visit the homeworld of 2 other races -directly- and its wasted on them getting trampled. I hope Bioware continues the series with new installments and dive deeper into the ME universe

I often wonder if SWTOR is an experiment to see how well a Mass Effect MMO would work. Assuming the franchise will be further explored over the course of SWTOR's lifespan, I imagine a Mass Effect MMO that would allow players to explore all these planets and space stations we hear about in the current trilogy could work really well, and benefit greatly from everything they learn from SWTOR's development and upkeep.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:50 pm



Each class starts with a human option. You can unlock another human option and two aliens.

To clarify: Krogan, Turian, Salarian, and Quarian are all playable. But not every race is available in all classes. i.e infiltrator has male human, female human, salarian, and quarian.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:06 pm

I find the MP to be ridicolously easy if you simply play as a somewhat high-level soldier krogran with only an assault rifle. The abilities then have that +200% recharge speed, so basically keep pressing "2" (or whatever your hotkey is) for the Carnage (i think thats the name) ranged attack, aswell as using 'fortification' and keep throwing the 'inferno grenades' + resupply ammo/grenades.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:56 pm

I am still missing the problem with the story turning to earth. It makes sense, Sheppard is the biggest threat to the reapers so what do they do? They turn to what he holds dearly, Earth and the people of earth. Sheppard was on Earth at the time as well, they where trying to kill him the easy way.If you played the other two and really expected it would never come to earth, you are a fool.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:07 pm

I am still missing the problem with the story turning to earth. It makes sense, Sheppard is the biggest threat to the reapers so what do they do? They turn to what he holds dearly, Earth and the people of earth. Sheppard was on Earth at the time as well, they where trying to kill him the easy way.If you played the other two and really expected it would never come to earth, you are a fool.
And my colonist sole survivor holds earth dearly, does she? Well, no, she doesn't. The plot says she happens to be there, that's all.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:30 am

And my colonist sole survivor holds earth dearly, does she? Well, no, she doesn't. The plot says she happens to be there, that's all.

Your Sheppard realizes it is her duty to save earth, or maybe she doesn't? That is why you can pick where you go story wise in this game.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:59 pm

Your Sheppard realizes it is her duty to save earth, or maybe she doesn't? That is why you can pick where you go story wise in this game.
Oh, yeah, I appreciate that, just saying that with the background and paragon/renegade choices, Sheppard holding Earth dear is a pretty weird reason for the Reapers to attack it.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:08 am

Any news on when the "Extended Cut" of the trailer comes out today?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:21 am

Oh, yeah, I appreciate that, just saying that with the background and paragon/renegade choices, Sheppard holding Earth dear is a pretty weird reason for the Reapers to attack it.

Then maybe they only attack earth because he is human and they recognize humans as a threat to their survival.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:21 pm

Any news on when the "Extended Cut" of the trailer comes out today?
http://www.masseffect.com/videos/video/0e3fbba503f6511b874bb3bac867c5e2 Well, I assume this is it. 30 sec longer and uploaded today.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:29 pm


http://www.masseffect.com/videos/video/0e3fbba503f6511b874bb3bac867c5e2 Well, I assume this is it. 30 sec longer and uploaded today.

Oh, cool!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:00 pm

AFAIK the guys who did the multiplayer are a different team than the ones who make the singleplayer, so time spent developing the multiplayer shouldn't have impacted the singleplayer.
It still costs money to fund which could've been spent funding a few more levels.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:43 pm

pretty peaved right now cause I can not get the collector's edition unless I pay some a hole 300 or 400 dollars on amazon now. every site and store is saying sold out for mass effect 3 CE. Yet people I know were getting the Skyrim CE up until a couple weeks before and that game was selling like mad. WTF!?!?! Bioware, ever heard of making more copies so everyone has a chance without geting stiffed on places ebay or amazon.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:28 am

pretty peaved right now cause I can not get the collector's edition unless I pay some a hole 300 or 400 dollars on amazon now. every site and store is saying sold out for mass effect 3 CE. Yet people I know were getting the Skyrim CE up until a couple weeks before and that game was selling like mad. WTF!?!?! Bioware, ever heard of making more copies so everyone has a chance without geting stiffed on places ebay or amazon.

The more they restrict content, the more they condition you to buy their stuff early. This translates into guaranteed early profit, regardless of how bad the game turns out to be. I do wonder whether this practice will bear fruit. Bad word of mouth about a line of slipshod products tends to take much less time to impact profits than would training your consumers in the way that Bioware/EA seem to be trying to. But then, all they need to do is attract enough casual gamers... :shrug: It's an interesting experiment. Let's see what happens!
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:35 am

The more they restrict content, the more they condition you to buy their stuff early. This translates into guaranteed early profit, regardless of how bad the game turns out to be. I do wonder whether this practice will bear fruit. Bad word of mouth about a line of slipshod products tends to take much less time to impact profits than would training your consumers in the way that Bioware/EA seem to be trying to. But then, all they need to do is attract enough casual gamers... :shrug: It's an interesting experiment. Let's see what happens!
I agree with your theory, but I was still looking forward to getting the ME3CE. No offense to BGS, but for the 79 bucks for their CE was worth more then skyrim's overly priced 150 bucks for just a book and statue. Atleast with bioware i would get a whole bunch of decent in game content for a cheaper price plus all the other goodies. I have played the Demo for ME3 and thought it was great. They refined and added stuff without streamlining to death and making it boring.....Like (coughs) Skyrim (coughs)...lol
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:09 pm

DLC squadmate, has been released on XBL accidently.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9382439/1

800 MSP, becuase the dld didnt cost you enough.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:18 am

And Project: 10 Dollar DLC continues...
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:43 am

And Project: 10 Dollar DLC continues...
Well its more project 800+ Dollars in this case.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:45 pm

I don't have a Facepalm with the appropriate level to express my wtfability right now
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:28 am

Is the
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Prothean supposed to look like a mix of all the other races? That's kind of a nice touch, I'll give them that, if it's intentional.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:32 pm

I agree with your theory, but I was still looking forward to getting the ME3CE. No offense to BGS, but for the 79 bucks for their CE was worth more then skyrim's overly priced 150 bucks for just a book and statue. Atleast with bioware i would get a whole bunch of decent in game content for a cheaper price plus all the other goodies.

Well, the Skyrim CE being so expensive could be one reason it didn't sell out as quickly. Also, just because multiple companies put out a CE of their games, doesn't mean they all produce the same number of copies of that CE.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:46 am

I just spent two hours on the ME3 Demo multiplayer. I have to say, for a simple hoard more, it's pretty damn good. I was not expecting it to actually be fun in more way than "Woo, I won. Yay. Winning." The leveling up and unlockables are good for keeping you playing.
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