Mass Effect Thread #56 : Othor Games

» Mon May 14, 2012 9:29 am

Lol @ http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-3

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:36 am

I look at like this. It should be hard to save it all. You can still do it without the added multiplier of the MP bonuses. You just need to make all the right choices. If the choices made in ME and ME2 along with ME3 do not equate to that...then too bad for me. It is what it is. I played it that way and I will have to live with the consequences. I don't need the damn support of some stupid MP bonus that had absolutely nothing to do with my game. I WILL SURVIVE! and mourn the loss of the fallen.

» Sun May 13, 2012 11:55 pm

Considering the game has been out about 5 hours that's pretty unfair I'd say...

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:39 pm

Considering the game has been out about 5 hours that's pretty unfair I'd say...

Considering that this is the last game in a celebrated trilogy created by an AAA company, you'll be hard pressed to find a professional review that gives it a realistic rating. Nobody wants to be the wet blanket.

While it's way too early for metacritic users to be able to rate the game accurately, it only makes sense that those who are disappointed with the game (probably for story reasons) will give it an unrealistically low score. After all, if professional reviewers are going to inflate their scores, why shouldn't dissatisfied users do the opposite?

That's the thinking behind most unfair user reviews. And I can't say I disagree with that philosophy. I don't undervalue games in my reviews but, in big-picture terms, I don't have a problem with others doing so, if only to balance out what is an industry saturated with overly-positive reviews.

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:35 am

If they do in fact pull a Liliana, and retcon the story because "they wanted to" like they done in DA2...I will walk away and never look back. It will be the nail in the coffin. We will see. For now, I must really stop reading these forums and reports.

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:18 am

Lol @ http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-3

Thats complete jackassism. Theres no way those ppl played enough to already know how much it svcks if that bad. I bet half of them don't even own the game yet.

All I know is that when I got home, I installed the game and 4 and a half hours later I realized all I did was play the multiplayer.

The reaper enemies are sooo cool.

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:16 am

I playedlike 4 hours of ME3 yesterday and one thing is for sure it's a good Action/story game, but it seems like Bioware has totally lost the idea of what RPG mechanics are and how they should work to make a RPG. In a way you can say ME3 is similar to DA2, heavy focus on combat and very little focus on RPG mechanics. It feels like an interactive story being told, more then you as aplayer controlling the character and shaping him. :/

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:04 am

Lol @ http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-3

Considering how the ratings are like this:

Gamero is bado, homosix is disprayed as someting to beheard, hamburgeros are ramptant as wrell. WERLL, U KNOW RUT? END OF RINE. RINE ENDS HERE. ______________________________________________ I GIVE IT ZEERO UHF TEN. REDDIT NUMBA 1 FUN, GO TEAM REDDIT ! POWA.

I think I rely on the professional game reviewers this time.

Apparent forced homosixuality gets two kinds of attention. First there are the burn-the-witch rednecks who hate the game because of it and then there are those whose apparent duty is to proclaim their homosixuality and ergo the game is good for them. Both attitudes I dislike greatly, since I seriously don't think such a detail should be used to generalize the whole game.

I'd like to hear BGSF users' opinions on the game, if I may.

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:47 pm

I'm interested in this 'forced homosixuality' concept? Do we know how it comes about etc? Is it actually forced or is it only there if you pursue it? I'd be very surprised if it were the former...

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:53 am

I'm interested in this 'forced homosixuality' concept? Do we know how it comes about etc? Is it actually forced or is it only there if you pursue it? I'd be very surprised if it were the former...

I'd imagine it's "forced" like in DA2, where Anders makes a suggestion and refusing him gave rivalry points. So small amount that it's practical effect was nothing. Just the internet's way of exaggarating things.

» Sun May 13, 2012 7:39 pm

Ah okay. Makes a lot of sense.

Does anyone know if there's a full list of romance options available yet? I can see former flames have returned but the only confirmed options I can see are 3 new NPCs....

» Sun May 13, 2012 8:08 pm

Don't agree with all the 10/10 reviews, pure fanB reviews. ME3 is definitely more of a 8.5-9.5 game, I'll judge it myself when I get it later today but that's probably where my rating is going.

This is slightly worrying. (No spoilers)

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/06/mass-effect-3-war-assets-and-readiness-how-multiplayer-affects-your-ending/

So if you want to go back to the game in 10 years you'll have a hard time getting the optimal ending if the multiplayer is dead.

I'm not obsessed with getting the optimal ending though. What's the point in choices and consequences if you're just going to retry until you get it 'right' or use a wiki to look up the best choices? :tongue:

Never did that with the ME2 Suicide Mission either.

You won't need to do multiplayer in order to get the best ending although doing the multiplayer will make it easier to get to that point.

I playedlike 4 hours of ME3 yesterday and one thing is for sure it's a good Action/story game, but it seems like Bioware has totally lost the idea of what RPG mechanics are and how they should work to make a RPG. In a way you can say ME3 is similar to DA2, heavy focus on combat and very little focus on RPG mechanics. It feels like an interactive story being told, more then you as aplayer controlling the character and shaping him. :/

That's my thoughts as well although I haven't played it yet. Judging from what I saw of the IGN stream it's definitely more autodialoge although choices are still there, just not as much and that's a huge problem. The reason that's a problem is you lose the ability to roleplay the character and how can you call it a Roleplaying game when you can't Roleplay the character, (JRPG's are an exception, different type of RPG).

The combat has been improved, there is more empheisis on RPG elements such as EXP all the time instead of end of mission like ME2 and the weapon customization but losing the ability to Roleplay Shepard is a much bigger issue then anything else in the game that I have a problem with such as the timed missions. It's the reason why I said that ME3 doesn't deserve all the 10/10 ratings and further proves that the vid game media is useless. Word of mouth is better, seeing 8-8.5 reviews for Dragon Age 2 would probably make you think, "Oh this game is pretty good I should pick it up" but the fan reviews say otherwise and give the game it's true rating. I wouldn't judge metacritic because the score will be trolled early on but the word of mouth from fans will give the game it's true rating eventually.

» Mon May 14, 2012 9:19 am

Don't agree with all the 10/10 reviews, pure fanB reviews. ME3 is definitely more of a 8.5-9.5 game, I'll judge it myself when I get it later today but that's probably where my rating is going.

Erm... So you're predispositioning your rating how...?

I've quite enjoyed it so far!

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:52 am

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/03/05/play-it-again-mordin-tweaking-me2-for-optimum-mass-effect-3/

Somewhere in that article.

Thanks.

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:54 pm

I will say that I think Liara is the one that got overly sixualized instead of Ashley. Looking at Liara from ME1 and then looking at her in ME3 is a huge difference, pardon the pun.

Erm... So you're predispositioning your rating how...?

I've quite enjoyed it so far! :smile:

There's no doubt that ME3 is a good game. I love the improvements to combat, more empheisis on RPG elements such as EXP all the time, I like the improved Graphics, story sounds excellent but I don't like the auto dialoge or the timed side quest missions. The ending (Won't spoil it now) is different, is it bad or good I can't say yes or no yet since a lot of the info I got is out of context because I don't know how 100% of the final mission goes down. Once I do see it for myself then I can accurately rate the ending. An 8.5-9.5 still means the game is good, it's just not perfection. It's kinda similar to Skyrim's scores, I wouldn't give it a 10/10 based on an objectivety review or basing it as an RPG but that doesn't mean the game is terrible, Skyrim is a great game it's just not perfection.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:30 am

I will say that I think Liara is the one that got overly sixualized instead of Ashley. Looking at Liara from ME1 and then looking at her in ME3 is a huge difference, pardon the pun.

Well, apart from every female character's bust size increasing with every game, i don't really see it. It's a good thing this is the final game, otherwise they would looking like some of the Oblivion mods :teehee:

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:24 am

Is there anyway to use my ME2 save that's on my 360 for the PC version of ME3?

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:48 am

Is there anyway to use my ME2 save that's on my 360 for the PC version of ME3?

Not that I know of, but you could download a ME2 save from the internet, and use a savegame editor to reconfigure the ME2 save to your liking.

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:03 am

Not that I know of, but you could download a ME2 save from the internet, and use a savegame editor to reconfigure the ME2 save to your liking.

I know, but it just wouldn't feel the same.

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:21 am

What's the day 1 dlc deal? Do we need to buy it?

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:17 am

Pretty sure there isn't a way to do it.

I did about 3 playthroughs of ME1 on my XBox and couldn't MacGuyver a way to do it.

» Mon May 14, 2012 8:30 am

What's the day 1 dlc deal? Do we need to buy it?

don't have to. But it has a pretty essential character to the Plot of ME imo

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:46 am

I'd like to hear BGSF users' opinions on the game, if I may.

None of us have played it enough, yet -- but http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/03/06/mass-effect-3-review-pc/ ("I have avoided any plot-specific spoilers in this review, and reading it will not reveal any details about how the story unfolds or concludes. Clearly if you want to avoid knowing anything at all about the game, or seeing images from it, then look away now."). I trust their opinion.

» Sun May 13, 2012 10:47 pm

Lol @ http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-3

Best part:

I popped the disc in, sat back and took some Viagra. Next thing I know there are two dudes getting it on. That's right, ONLY TWO?!?! Anything less than three dudes in an RPG in today's age is just boring. BioWare has failed me for the last time, I think I shall play my second favorite RPG series which is now anything that doesn't charge me ten bucks when I buy the game to play all that is on the disc. Sad it had to come to this, I shall overcome this.

Metacritic is a joke at this point.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:15 am

don't have to. But it has a pretty essential character to the Plot of ME imo

Please don't tell lies, it isn't essential. You don't need it to unlock any of the other games content or to beat the base games content. Not to mention he's pretty minor from a story perspective. Opinions, do not make facts.

Edit
My game is out for delivery, huzzah. Now to just wait, and then later on check the mailbox.