[Mandy Muir]

On Geth in ME3:

Spoiler

One might choose the Geth over the Quarians in order to punish the latter for screwing up like that.

[Johnny]

It has aged pretty well, still fun to play. But compare ME1 Anderson face with ME3 Anderson face Or Geth heads between 1 and 2. And poor Garrus' face was never fixed, it still uses the low resolution texture

I think so too. I am the only one really attached to their Shepard's face? I remember spending ages on it and I'm trying to re-create it in ME1 (don't want to continue my last character, want to start properly again), the idea of Shepard being anyone else seems so alien too me?

What classes do people play most? Always been an infiltratior myself.

[Katy Hogben]

I think so too. I am the only one really attached to their Shepard's face? I remember spending ages on it and I'm trying to re-create it in ME1 (don't want to continue my last character, want to start properly again), the idea of Shepard being anyone else seems so alien too me?

What classes do people play most? Always been an infiltratior myself.

I agree. When I watch other videos on YouTube that have other people's Femsheps I don't feel any affinity to them whatsoever. I love my Shep - she's so damn pretty.

And I played this playthrough as a vanguard which I really regret in hindsight. Not because I don't like it, but it's weird that I played the first 2 games as a soldier with no psi talent whatsoever, now people are reffering to her biotic abilities...

[Kathryn Medows]

What classes do people play most? Always been an infiltratior myself.

I prefer Biotics myself, my first Shepard was a Vanguard, second was Infiltrator, third (and main) Shepard was Adept in 1, Sentinel in 2 and Soldier in 3.
That Soldier in ME3 was the first time I played Soldier, in fact. It's quite dull but I'll stick to the decision. I'll probably go for Infiltrator next round, since I've grown fond of my multiplayer Quarian infiltrator.


As for getting attached, yes I do that too. I have been re-using my FemShep over and over again, just with different names and decisions.

[lucy chadwick]

What classes do people play most? Always been an infiltratior myself.

I have battlemage, warrior and assassin characters that i play in pretty much every game. Those translate to Vanguard, Soldier and Infiltrator.

Currently infiltrator, a black haire,d green eyed asian looking gal as i always make her look as human (in TES she is always a black furred khajiit, in D&D a drow ) With Black Widow. Until i get her the Javelin. She doens't care for Geth, but she loves their sniper rifles

That Soldier in ME3 was the first time I played Soldier, in fact. It's quite dull but I'll stick to the decision.

Get Revenant and Fortification and ignore enemy fire while filling them with lead. Or whatever the ME guns shoot. Go Shock Trooper or go home, is my way of playing soldier

[Averielle Garcia]

What's a Scorpion or a Sabre?

I love the Scorpion, best weapon to give your biotic companions. Just watch Liara throwing people around and making them explode....Muwhahaha

[Skivs]

I just finished the main quest in ME3 and I was extremely disappointed. I actually sat there and felt like I had just wasted 40+ hours of my life. We can go into details if you want but I wonder if anyone else had this reaction.

[Marcin Tomkow]

Get Revenant and Fortification and ignore enemy fire while filling them with lead. Or whatever the ME guns shoot. Go Shock Trooper or go home, is my way of playing soldier

But it's no fun. It's just shoot shoot shoot. The Vanguard I like the most because of the Biotic Charge power. It's just full epic shotgun rampage fun. I kinda regret picking Soldier as my ME3 class, actually.

[Sxc-Mary]

I just finished the main quest in ME3 and I was extremely disappointed. I actually sat there and felt like I had just wasted 40+ hours of my life. We can go into details if you want but I wonder if anyone else had this reaction.

Well its actually more of a waste than that, if you imported characters from 1 and 2.

[Jeff Tingler]

Well its actually more of a waste than that, if you imported characters from 1 and 2.

Couldn't agree more, I'm kinda glad I stopped playing before the end.

[brian adkins]

Well its actually more of a waste than that, if you imported characters from 1 and 2.

Couldn't agree more, I'm kinda glad I stopped playing before the end.

Ya, I'm wondering whether I'm going to be importing my ME2 saves... Seeing as I can't even get through one, standard playthrough, I doubt it.

Still haven't had a desire to play the game again since the camera last wore away at my enjoyability.

[kyle pinchen]

Couldn't agree more, I'm kinda glad I stopped playing before the end.

I am still dissapointed I invested so much time, and I could have saved money.

For me mass effect ended with 1. Shepard tried, but one man can only do so much. Reapers won, we never found out what their motives and origin. Cerberus were still a mysterious faction, there is no project lazerus, etc.

[Matthew Aaron Evans]

I just finished the main quest in ME3 and I was extremely disappointed. I actually sat there and felt like I had just wasted 40+ hours of my life. We can go into details if you want but I wonder if anyone else had this reaction.

The more I think about it, the more I think that this is exactly the reaction BioWare wanted. I'm starting to suspect that there's a method to the madness. The three "choices" are supposed to all feel like s&#t, even though they all succeed at "dealing with the Reaper threat". We're going to find out why eventually.

I have a theory. And it's not indoctrination. It's actually the opposite of indoctrination.

[Alexx Peace]

The more I think about it, the more I think that this is exactly the reaction BioWare wanted. I'm starting to suspect that there's a method to the madness. The three "choices" are supposed to all feel like s&#t, even though they all succeed at "dealing with the Reaper threat". We're going to find out why eventually.

I have a theory. And it's not indoctrination. It's actually the opposite of indoctrination.

If your theory is "they did it to sell dlc", then there are lots of people who have already thought about it.

Even I was suprised how bad the endings were. I knew it would be a DEM, I knew from the script it would be stupid, and make me think even less of the reapers. But what really suprised me, was the lack of impact your choices have.
Not even a damn epilouge. They didnt even try to pretend your choices had huge impact.

[GPMG]

If your theory is "they did it to sell dlc", then there are lots of people who have already thought about it.

Even I was suprised how bad the endings were. I knew it would be a DEM, I knew from the script it would be stupid, and make me think even less of the reapers. But what really suprised me, was the lack of impact your choices have.
Not even a damn epilouge. They didnt even try to pretend your choices had huge impact.

No, I mean a theory about what the ending means and where the story is leading, not what BioWare's business strategy is. I think there is more end content coming, a Truth DLC or something. I do think that if BioWare charges for it, there's no defending them. Charging people for a proper ending would ruin their reputation, they'd deserve every bit of backlash they'd get. But there are rumors that a Truth DLC would be free. Maybe they'd even incorporate it into a patch. I'd have no problem with that; it would just mean we had to wait a little bit to get the proper ending. Not the end of the world.

I find it very hard to believe that BioWare would write the first 99.9% of the story so superbly, then completely botch the (arguably) most important part, the ending. I also find it hard to believe that they think the current ending is satisfying. All the storytelling up to that point suggests that they're smarter than that. That it doesn't gel at all with their hype prior to release ("closure, no loose ends, different endings for everyone") just gives me more reason to believe we haven't seen the whole story. In fact the hype might have been preparing us for the ending we got, cautioning us to be intrigued by and suspicious of the ending rather than accepting it for what it is and flipping out.

[Judy Lynch]

If your theory is "they did it to sell dlc", then there are lots of people who have already thought about it.

Personally, I think the ending is bad for "selling DLC" (besides a "better ending" one). With people so demoralized about the ending (and therefore, the whole game/etc), I could only imagine that would drive down DLC sales..... I certainly don't feel the need to have more adventures as Shep, knowing where it'll end up.

[Laura Shipley]

If it's free DLC it's still irritating unless they have some very awesome reasons for it. Even then I don't think anything can excuse them making us this miserable. If they sell us the ending, oh boy. The [censored] storm will be amazing. I would suggest everyone STOP donating to child's play and instead choose a figured head and donate to said person to fight the legal battle we need to [censored] that company up. Something would have to be done, no justification works.

Edit
Ideally if we could donate to both causes I would like that, but reality dictates people will only donate to one. So I choose the pragmatic kick them in the shins where it hurts ending.

Edit2
Also on the Bioware Social forums we now officially have a statement and permanent topic from a developer stating more talks on the ending will come after everyone has time to experience the end. This doesn't bode well, it seems to planned and prepared.

[lisa nuttall]

In fact the hype might have been preparing us for the ending we got, cautioning us to be intrigued by and suspicious of the ending rather than accepting it for what it is and flipping out.

Where was that hype? All I ever got was "the epic end to the trilogy, different ending for all!!!!!"

Personally, I think the ending is bad for "selling DLC" (besides a "better ending" one). With people so demoralized about the ending (and therefore, the whole game/etc), I could only imagine that would drive down DLC sales..... I certainly don't feel the need to have more adventures as Shep, knowing where it'll end up.

there will be an ending dlc, a couple new squad members, and some MP DLC.

[Chris Johnston]

No, I mean a theory about what the ending means and where the story is leading, not what BioWare's business strategy is. I think there is more end content coming, a Truth DLC or something. I do think that if BioWare charges for it, there's no defending them. Charging people for a proper ending would ruin their reputation, they'd deserve every bit of backlash they'd get. But there are rumors that a Truth DLC would be free. Maybe they'd even incorporate it into a patch. I'd have no problem with that; it would just mean we had to wait a little bit to get the proper ending. Not the end of the world.

I find it very hard to believe that BioWare would write the first 99.9% of the story so superbly, then completely botch the (arguably) most important part, the ending. I also find it hard to believe that they think the current ending is satisfying. All the storytelling up to that point suggests that they're smarter than that. That it doesn't gel at all with their hype prior to release ("closure, no loose ends, different endings for everyone") just gives me more reason to believe we haven't seen the whole story. In fact the hype might have been preparing us for the ending we got, cautioning us to be intrigued by and suspicious of the ending rather than accepting it for what it is and flipping out.

Ok, I am just going to say the rumor about "The Truth" dlc is [censored].

The source of it was a anon on /v/. That should have instantly crushed the rumor, but it appears sites are still talking about it.

[Rachael]

Personally, I hope there isn't a "better ending" DLC.

Because it'll mean one of two things:
1) they planned it all along, trolled us with a terrible ending, and rigged things to sell "the real ending" for extra money grubbing.

or

2) they buckled to fan pressure, went against their convictions/plans/etc, and blew any "artistic integrity" there might have been in a controversial ending. Also setting a terrible precedent where player whining can get things changed.


So, yeah - I don't see the possibility of a New End DLC to be anything to cheer about.

[elliot mudd]

If it's free DLC it's still irritating unless they have some very awesome reasons for it. Even then I don't think anything can excuse them making us this miserable. If they sell us the ending, oh boy. The [censored] storm will be amazing. I would suggest everyone STOP donating to child's play and instead choose a figured head and donate to said person to fight the legal battle we need to [censored] that company up. Something would have to be done, no justification works.

Edit
Ideally if we could donate to both causes I would like that, but reality dictates people will only donate to one. So I choose the pragmatic kick them in the shins where it hurts ending.

That's the thing, though. I think we're supposed to feel miserable. For story purposes. This probably gets spoilerish ...

Spoiler

Nobody is asking why the Guardian gives us the three choices he gives. Think about the choices. They all accomplish what we've been trying to accomplish for three ME's -- ending the Reaper threat. Yet they all feel wrong somehow.

Destroy -- kills the Geth, EDI, not to mention that you're basically wiping out whole intelligent 'nations' (Sovereign's description of the Reapers)
Control -- TIM's solution, which we were trained throughout the game to view as monstrous
Synthesis -- wrong all over, sounds like twisted mad science

And what do those three choices have in common? They're all things the Reapers do to deal with organics.

Destroy -- their response to resistance, destroying ships, blasting cities
Control -- indoctrination
Synthesis -- harvesting DNA to create new Reapers

Why would someone associated with the Reapers (the Guardian or Star Child) force Shepard to make these same choices? Maybe they're not trying indoctrinate Shepard. Maybe they're trying to educate Shepard.

[jeremey wisor]

I have a theory. And it's not indoctrination. It's actually the opposite of indoctrination.

What is the opposite of indoctrination? Hahah, I just realised my avatar is perfect for this thread.

[Nikki Morse]

That's the thing, though. I think we're supposed to feel miserable. For story purposes. This probably gets spoilerish ...

Spoiler

Nobody is asking why the Guardian gives us the three choices he gives. Think about the choices. They all accomplish what we've been trying to accomplish for three ME's -- ending the Reaper threat. Yet they all feel wrong somehow.

Destroy -- kills the Geth, EDI, not to mention that you're basically wiping out whole intelligent 'nations' (Sovereign's description of the Reapers)
Control -- TIM's solution, which we were trained throughout the game to view as monstrous
Synthesis -- wrong all over, sounds like twisted mad science

And what do those three choices have in common? They're all things the Reapers do to deal with organics.

Destroy -- their response to resistance, destroying ships, blasting cities
Control -- indoctrination
Synthesis -- harvesting DNA to create new Reapers

Why would someone associated with the Reapers (the Guardian or Star Child) force Shepard to make these same choices? Maybe they're not trying indoctrinate Shepard. Maybe they're trying to educate Shepard.

The ending itself is comical and nonsensical. No I mean REAL miserable. As they cut out the end and most likely sell it to us as DLC. The real kind of miserable that makes you wonder where it all went wrong.

[Ebou Suso]

2) they buckled to fan pressure, went against their convictions/plans/etc, and blew any "artistic integrity" there might have been in a controversial ending. Also setting a terrible precedent where player whining can get things changed.

Bethesda already set that precedent.

[Hairul Hafis]

Personally, I hope there isn't a "better ending" DLC.

Because it'll mean one of two things:
1) they planned it all along, trolled us with a terrible ending, and rigged things to sell "the real ending" for extra money grubbing.

or

2) they buckled to fan pressure, went against their convictions/plans/etc, and blew any "artistic integrity" there might have been in a controversial ending. Also setting a terrible precedent where player whining can get things changed.


So, yeah - I don't see the possibility of a New End DLC to be anything to cheer about.

At this point I don't know what to feel. Since I had these endings so subtly ruined for me like a sledgehammer onto my new favorite toy, even before the game came out, I have been hesitant to play through 3 (still in 2 on 2nd playthru). I hope I'm in the same mental state in regards to the ending as Emz tho - I don't want to be even more depressed / angry than I already am. And if there is an alt. ending set.....I hope that the end justifies the means.