Mass Effect Thread #65

Post » Tue May 15, 2012 4:32 am

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How is it "the end justifies the means", you've already done whatever "means" you want to get to the end. No skin off my nose, waste the Geth or force some mutation on people if you like; who's to say what a Shepard controlling the Reapers would do? In-fact really that would be entirely up to you.

Isn't it also true that the Control ending is the only ending which doesn't include a specific shot of the Charon Relay exploding like the others do?


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I just convinced TIM to shoot himself in the head by telling him humans weren't ready to control reaper tech. Now, somehow, the paragon choice is for me to choose to control reaper tech? That's illogical from the paragon POV. That's what TIM or Saren would have done. It was a choice, but never the paragon one.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:41 pm

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I just convinced TIM to shoot himself in the head by telling him humans weren't ready to control reaper tech. Now, somehow, the paragon choice is for me to choose to control reaper tech? That's illogical from the paragon POV. That's what TIM or Saren would have done. It was a choice, but never the paragon one.

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That's because they were indoctrinated, they were half-way to becoming husks. Look Shepard's motivations are yours to command, maybe they change as the mission paradigms do. You have a choice to kill the Reapers but also EDI and the Geth, you have the choice to force co-existance and peace on people (the goal of the Templar's in Assassin's Creed btw) or the choice of controlling them and making them leave. You tell me which one accomplishes the most.

TIM wanted the Reaper's to become tools of the human race alone, that is clearly not the Paragon Shepard's goal - his goal is to stop the war. Humans aren't ready for that kind of power was the arguement, a paragon Shepard isn't givning them that power is he? He could in-fact be stopping anyone else from getting it.

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I've just had a thought as I finished Priority: Thessia, so the Asari government/s have known all this time that the Prothean's are responsible for their power and that they've had a Prothean beacon hidden away from the other races for millenia. How then do they not know about the Reapers? The first thing that the Vendetta VI does is calculate what time it is, "Post-Prothean Cycle", he says, then he confirms the Reaper extinction. So nobody ever asked it what exactly he meant by cycle? Or the Prothean VI never warned them despite the fact that the Protheans went out of their way to leave warning and such? Or did the Asari never activate it in all those years?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:51 am

And thank you, Pistolero, for mentioning the Charge + Nova combination. Playing Vanguard just became 50% cooler :cool: And dangerous :unsure:
Welcome to the dark side. :devil:
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:05 pm

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I don’t think paragon shep would corrupt himself by becoming a reaper. Thinking he could do ‘good’ later, once he has power, is classic renegade. It’s a do what’s necessary mentality. Paragon shep always took risks, if it meant everyone could survive. He gave every species a chance. I’d think he'd choose synthesis over wiping out synthetics or symbolically trying to control all synthetics. But apparently all of these were false choices. And the cake was a lie.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:08 am

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I don’t think paragon would corrupt himself by becoming a reaper. Thinking he could do ‘good’ later, once he has power, is classic renegade. It’s a do what’s necessary mentality. Paragon shep always took risks, if it meant everyone could survive. He gave every species a chance. I’d think he choose synthesis over wiping out synthetics or symbolically trying to control all synthetics.
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I consider Destroy ending the true Paragon ending because it's Status Quo. Just kill the Reapers and be done with it.

That leaves only two major plot holes that I seriously consider experience-breaking: Mass Relays blowing up and my Love Interest teleporting to Normandy only to die out in a deserted planet somewhere out there.

Oh and Synthesis ending means you will be sentencing every organic in the galaxy to an untimely death. Anyone with basic knowledge in Biology knows what may happen when Guanine comes Thymine, let alone when your whole DNA is messed up beyond repair and mutated irreversibly.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:51 pm

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Status quo without Geth I guess. Except the little [censored] apparently lied to me about that :P
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:05 am

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Status quo without Geth I guess. Except the little [censored] apparently lied to me about that :tongue:
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I'd just want to retire in some Earthly beach with Liara. But too bad she was struck by a dose of Plot Device and now has to spend 700 years alone in that Caribbean-rip-off Planet after Joker and Garrus die out.

I intended to take EDI and Ash with me to the last mission in hopes of teleporting them to Joker but apparently your Love Interest gets to Normandy no matter what role s/he has.
I even kept Javik alive all this time so Liara could write her book with him. But oooh nooooo BioWare insists on ruining your friendships and romances.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:46 am

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I'd just want to retire in some Earthly beach with Liara. But too bad she was struck by a dose of Plot Device and now has to spend 700 years alone in that Caribbean-rip-off Planet after Joker and Garrus die out.

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Because after everything your Shepard's done he's just going to retire to a life of peace and sun right? "Commander, the Krogan's have found out that you tricked them with the Genophage cure, Mordin's been exposed as still alive; there's going to be a war between them and the Turians..."

"I'm sorry Councillor but... this Tequila Sunrise isn't going to finish itself."
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:15 pm

@Pistolero


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My garden of Eden planet has EDI, Joker, and Ash. . .so unless Joker breaks up with EDI and gets it on with Ash in the next few years, EDI will have a very lonely eternity. :(
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 12:56 am

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My Shepard would do as he's always done, make a calculated and objective decision on which option he thinks would be best for the human race; if he could turn it into a victory that's an even greater plus. He's spent all his life making brutal and calculated sacrifices, putting the collective before himself; this would be the ultimate and final choice.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:05 pm

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Because after everything your Shepard's done he's just going to retire to a life of peace and sun right? "Commander, the Krogan's have found out that you tricked them with the Genophage cure, Mordin's been exposed as still alive; there's going to be a war between them and the Turians..."

"I'm sorry Councillor but... this Tequila Sunrise isn't going to finish itself."
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The Dalatrass promised fabricated evidence that the Genophage cure was failure from the start. Also, Mordin is dead and so is Wrex (and Galactic news services classified his death as "caused by unpaid debts" rather than go-nuts over Genophage).

If there is a new war between Krogan and Turians, it's their problem. I'm done helping their ass over and over again. Deploy a new nuke and blow those degenerates to hell.

I'll stay for the sunset with Liara and my Blue Baby and teach Javik how to enjoy life.
At one point my Shepards were total human supremacists but I leaned towards the light: I just want all the degenerates (Krogan, Vorcha..) wiped out and the council races can go on as always.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:57 am

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The Dalatrass promised fabricated evidence that the Genophage cure was failure from the start. Also, Mordin is dead and so is Wrex (and Galactic news services classified his death as "caused by unpaid debts" rather than go-nuts over Genophage).

If there is a new war between Krogan and Turians, it's their problem. I'm done helping their ass over and over again. Deploy a new nuke and blow those degenerates to hell.

I'll stay for the sunset with Liara and my Blue Baby and teach Javik how to enjoy life.
At one point my Shepards were total human supremacists but I leaned towards the light: I just want all the degenerates (Krogan, Vorcha..) wiped out and the council races can go on as always.

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Lol, and you used to be so down on Javik. My Shepard's to impersonal for such indugences now, he just wanted the Illusive Man to see the light and join in the fight; he just wanted his Mass Effect 2 life back again. Sure he could go back to London and enjoy life with Miranda and his genetically perfect human child but... given a chance to control the Reapers and become an immortal God?
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 3:25 am

I haven't been able to get Medi Gels in the last 5+ packs I've bought.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:30 pm

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Lol, and you used to be so down on Javik. My Shepard's to impersonal for such indugences now, he just wanted the Illusive Man to see the light and join in the fight; he just wanted his Mass Effect 2 life back again. Sure he could go back to London and enjoy life with Miranda and his genetically perfect human child but... given a chance to control the Reapers and become an immortal God?
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I don't know what to think of Javik. He is a bit disappointing but then again he's cool. He is unnecessarily rude and holds very childish views, but then again he's a FRICKING PROTHEAN.

I didn't care for TIM in the end. He screwed up, and so bad that it doesn't matter what he intended. He fell into his event horizon from which there is no escape.

Come on man, Miranda?
Jacob: Let me help the Crucible by directing these scientists I rescued from Cerberus.
Samara: Let me utilize my biotics in the front lines where I'm needed, after taking out a Banshee factory.
Jack: Let me utilize my super biotic students in the front lines, because that's where I'm needed.
Zaeed: Let me utilize my badass merc gangs in the battle against the Reapers.
Miranda: OMIGOD SHEPAURD MY SISTSTER SHES IN DANGER HELP MEEEEE


I totally prefer Liara. She is cute but badass. She is the fraking Shadow Broker. She is Asari which is automatically hot, something even TIM admits, Liara is genuinely intelligent and is essentially the Yang to my Yin (or whatever they went, the point is that such a compassionate woman for such a mass murderer as my Shepard)
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:21 pm

I haven't been able to get Medi Gels in the last 5+ packs I've bought.

Random is random, but my recommendation is to save medi-gels for when you're just about to die. As in, when there's barely any red left on the "Mash A/X/whatever it is on the PC" prompt, or when an enemy's about to curb stomp you. Using it when a teammate is about to get there is a waste.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:59 pm

Miranda: OMIGOD SHEPAURD MY SISTSTER SHES IN DANGER HELP MEEEEE

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From: Captain A. Reynolds
To: Miranda Lawson

The Alliance wishes to express it's gratitude for your assistance. With the infomation yo've been sending us on Cerberus, we've been able to avoid ambushes they were setting up for our suplpy convoys. We'd offer you additional resources, but I understand you've procured a class-F private fighter and joined up with former colleauges. I also understand that several Cerberus bases were lost after being attacked by a reported group of "private special operatives" of no known affiliation. The Alliance cannot officially condone this independant operation, nor do we actually confirm that these operations are taking place.

Good luck, Ms Lawson

We'll be waiting for the redaction of your previous scathing statement :D.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:08 pm

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Miranda: OMIGOD SHEPAURD MY SISTSTER SHES IN DANGER HELP MEEEEE

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To be fair, Miranda never asks directly for your help, only for access to Alliance intel. You only get directly involved when you bump into her at Sanctuary.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:53 pm

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Lol, and you used to be so down on Javik. My Shepard's to impersonal for such indugences now, he just wanted the Illusive Man to see the light and join in the fight; he just wanted his Mass Effect 2 life back again. Sure he could go back to London and enjoy life with Miranda and his genetically perfect human child but... given a chance to control the Reapers and become an immortal God?

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Isn't Miranda is barren?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:00 pm

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Isn't Miranda is barren?
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Yeah, one of the shadow broker terminals from the ME2 DLC mention that she's actually infertile.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:16 am

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Yeah, one of the shadow broker terminals from the ME2 DLC mention that she's actually infertile.
Nightmare.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:35 pm

Preying Mouth? Yes, that had an interesting tidbit. A bermuda triangle, IN SPACE!

I wonder if something happens if you probe it. I've never bothered probing gas giants.

And thank you, Pistolero, for mentioning the Charge + Nova combination. Playing Vanguard just became 50% cooler :cool: And dangerous :unsure:

No I did not. I cannot risk that for role playing purposes. The gas giants in ME2 all show no substance. Maybe their rocky core (if they have one) are same size as Earth.

As for playing Vanguard thanks for that tip. I am playing one through ME/2, with the ram early on ME2 I go for one on one till I get that fourth slot filled and I go for the area one (with the shot gun ready ) not the slow down one.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:58 pm

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I don’t think paragon shep would corrupt himself by becoming a reaper. Thinking he could do ‘good’ later, once he has power, is classic renegade. It’s a do what’s necessary mentality. Paragon shep always took risks, if it meant everyone could survive. He gave every species a chance. I’d think he'd choose synthesis over wiping out synthetics or symbolically trying to control all synthetics. But apparently all of these were false choices. And the cake was a lie.
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BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. To trick you into thinking paragon (aka 'good') is to control the reapers! And the synthesis option will make nothing more than HUSKS! Control is what TIM wanted, and Synthesis is what Saren wanted. And they were both indoctrinated. So, if you choose any of those 2 you fail to resist and give in to indoctrination. Both Saren and TIM'S eyes glow blue. They were indoctrinated. Your eyes glow blue if you choose Control or Synthesis. Destroy is the only way to resist indoctrination. That's why only in the Destroy ending was Shepard shown breathing, aka WAKING UP FROM THE DREAM. That's why Control was painted in such a positive light, and Destroy in negative. Like TIM, you couldn't control them, because they would control you. It's all a trick. A really complex one. Watch this whole video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythY_GkEBck
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:21 am

You know, it occurs to me that if you're operating a galatic terrorist organisation then it's probably not smart to create yourself a logo and place it on every door, soldier, ship and every other wall.

Just completed the ending for myself, almost wish I hadn't checked before hand so I could see my own honest reaction.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 1:55 am

You know, it occurs to me that if you're operating a galatic terrorist organisation then it's probably not smart to create yourself a logo and place it on every door, soldier, ship and every other wall.

Yeah, i have often thought about that myself in the first mission of ME2. "HERE BE TERRORISTS!", the secret base screams :rofl:
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:42 pm

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Can someone tell me how they find Chronos Station in Priority: Horizon if Miranda is dead?
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