By the way, long life HammerofThor, the martyr, the one who complained first against Bugthesda and Microshop because of all this.

Well, even if I usually be gentle, no matter how angry i am, i think Bugthesda is pretty fitting, too. I had gamebreaking bugs in Oblivion, F3 and F:NV. Skyrim itself was surprisingly not that bad (at least for me), but now Dawnguard again is broken. Bethesda games are pretty often buggy as hell when they are released. Even if Bethesda is most likely my favorite Developer, Bugthesda suits. And it's really not that insulting. More like a parody.^^

An insult or a statement. They have earned the right to be in the top of the most buggy software publisher of all time. since Daggerfall, and it was nothing compared to this. I can respect your patience Cicero, so I ask you to respect my anger. The content has a gamebreaking bug since day one. Its not something you discover after playing 100 hours... its right there since minute one. Microsofts poilicy is about not satisfied clients refund. When the content is broken the agreement has faild. I paid for somethimg that doesn't work, but whatever, its not the point, we disscussed this already on #4 maybe? It is a game? Of course, but it is my money what has been taken and I received, not only some new broken content, but even content that can break my previous invested time in the game. In the meantime, Microsoft keeps selling the DLC as if nothing happens, not very ethical, you must agree on that at least, and despite reciving a concrete answer we recieve hopping lies to try to be calm. I prefeer to hear the truth, not what I want to hear. I have very limited time to play the stuff I like because of my work. I didn't really care about the time lapse between the English and no english version, TOO MANY years playing games to be reallystic. I just wanted professional behaviour and I only see constant, litle, but cummulative fails that make my intial schedulle to break appart. Not too happy with the story...

PD: Sorry for the big post.

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EDIT: Oh lord, even Bethesdas forum is crap..

as u see cicero every1 are hungry

Whatever your feelings on this matter, and I understand the frustration, posts that are rude, flaming, lack civility and are non constructive will be removed and the posters will hear from a moderator. That includes attacking other members for their opinions and using flamebait like "bugthesda".

We are getting used to the bugs this generation and I find It unaceptable... The name thing could be more a fact than an insult but of course, your forum your rules. Not happening again.

Not reading an agreement is unprofessional. It's like buying a house: you sign the contract, not read it, go visit your new home, and find out it needs major restructures. You can't blame the company you signed the contract to, because your rights were written in the contract that you decided not to read.

In this case, you decided not to read a contract that said that you wouldn't be able to get a refund. The company written it clearly, white on green, you didn't read it. Your fault.

c'mon fu don't tell me lies, tell me some1 who reads the agreement of EVERY DLC (except cicero) this time they're wrong, they've realesed a bugged product that's all

I read every agreement because I dont want to be caught out by clauses I am not aware of. I do this in real life also with work contracts precisely because NOT reading contracts or agreements will lead to problems of your own making.

I am referring to the green 'column' on the right when you are about to make the purchase. Remember? It is not a HUGE agreement, just few words that remind you that after the purchase you will NOT be able to get a refund. If this simple concept is too hard to understand, I don't know what I could say further.

ok a guy tell me that the patch is already done, but MS wouldn't load it up today oO

reading an agreement of a contract like "buying a house" it's ok but for 1 DLC of 500MB u are just climbing on mirrors guys so don't be fools and accept the reality they're unprofessional. and with this i go to play dragon's dogma have fun defending ur precious Bethesda byeeee

Both the concepts are about spending your money, be it a house or a simple DLC, it's always money. And you should care where your money go. Always.

I really don't undestand why you defend the practices of Bethesda on this affair while they are clearly at fault. Maybee their lack of professionalism is legal and you're probably right when you say we can't obtain a refund because we're too stupid for not reading all the agreement, but why are you defending them rather than the consumers who has been deceived ?

That's more about what I am not defending: customers who don't care about their money by not being aware of the consequences. I don't defend Bethesda because it's not a perfect company, but they're letting you express your opinions, letting people calling them "Bugthesda" without banning them. I think this is something way more important than just fixing a bug.

No-one is defending them thats the point people are not getting. Myself and others are just stating facts, some people dont or wont want to hear the truth for whatever reason. People bought a product, it has an issue that is currently being resolved and patience has been asked until the fix has been released. Its been delayed due to circumstances outwith Bethesda's control, and will be available once MS place it on the network.

What is so hard to understand about that? People can complain, they have a right to do so as paying customers with a faulty product. Being a tard and slinging mud at other people is not OK and is unacceptable in any walk of life.

I'm agree with the fact that we cannot say to them everything under pretext to have been deceived, but we don't have see any kind of excuse or apology from them, nothing about the launch of a DLC full of bugs, the lack of communication or the delays. Is it very normal for a company to not show to their customers respect?

They have been communicating, even on a Sunday they were posting info as soon as it was available. G-staff has posted a sticky thread at the top of the forum, and has been keeping it updated when information is available.

I dunno what it is about some people these days, they complain companies dont comunicate. And when they do, they ignore it, or misrepresent it. And when the communication says something they dont like, suddenly they are "liars" and "broke promises" when nothing was promised and the info when given was accurate at the time.

I saw these threads but nothing which begins or finishes by " we are sorry " or any other type of excuse.

The only person that can, but doesn't necessarily have the right to apology, is the Community Manager aka Gstaff. He's the mediator of Bethesda and Microsoft for us on the forums. So reading updates from him is the same as reading them from Bethesda or Microsoft. And since he isn't involved in the mismatch, he can't apology for something he didn't do in the first place. If you want one, you should either contact the people who actually was involved in the mismatch or contact the support but again, a call centre has no faults for what has happened thus not making them forced to apology.

Skyrim for me is the best single player game ever. A situation like this is really unexpected. I can't believe. I downloaded the dlc and now i can't play anymore util the bugs will be fixed. So please try to do a patch faster and better you can thank you

Since many people here dont seem to be able to read, i guess i have to quote my own post, because in it, they DO apologize for the DLC problems. It comes from the gamesas germany site, so it is quite official, get your facts straight people.

Psst, go try Fallout New Vegas while you wait.

It'll take your mind off it and it's an awesome game, also published by Bethesda.

Ok i will try it thank you