It's Oblivion 2. That's all it is.

Post » Thu May 10, 2012 10:08 pm

It;'s a biit early for me to judge but I feel like I am playing a game that is four years old?!

It's just Oblivion 2. Combat is no better and the animations are pathetic for 2011.

I will srill enjoy the game no doubt but I had hoped for a step up from Oblivion.
Compared to what? Yes there are games that offer "a little" better visuals, but at what cost. Those games fail horribly when it comes to content. The best visuals out there are games like racing. You have no character structure or quest content. They can afford to be lifelike. They have a lot more disk to play with.

You and I are obviously not playing the same game. It has that Oblivion feel, as well it should. It's TES after all. The combat is better, the magic is better, the graphics are better, the quests are better....
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Post » Thu May 10, 2012 11:06 pm

@jarmsro: Have you ever considered judging the game for what it actually provides of gameplay and fun, instead of comparing it up against other games and technology in SPITE of what it contains? There's a ton of stuff in Skyrim that you didn't get in Oblivion or any other game to this date. Skyrim is utterly unique when it comes to this.

Also, would you rather want to wait an extra 2-3 years for it to be a little better but require XBOX 720 or PS4? Personally, I'd rather have Skyrim be released now as it is, and then we can get that higher fidelity etc for Elder Scrolls VI. There no reason why Bethesda should stress about designing an absolute highest-end game. It's a RPG, nobody cares. What they want is the freedom of choice, to join a ton of guilds, to customize their gear, to simply just do what THEY wanna do and not be handheld by the devs and fed with a silver spoon.

Get yourself a little educated about things before you start complaining about something that, to anyone who actually knows wtf they're talking about, seems terribly elementary.
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Post » Thu May 10, 2012 7:40 pm

Buddy, it's too early to judge, keep playing for a couple more months, then make your decision. :verymad:
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 6:07 am

I agree with both of the OP's points, but overall it's the best game ever made.
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 4:23 am

My point is that the engine feels so OLD!!
lts a new engine, i thought this was a new one they had created?
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Post » Thu May 10, 2012 8:14 pm

The game does feel a bit like a total conversion mod for Oblivion - like a "Nehrim 2" maybe. Not that it's a bad thing, but the game does feel a bit dated for 2011.

Seriously?? LOL! Compared to what other rpg???
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Post » Thu May 10, 2012 9:29 pm

I can't believe how much people are getting upset over the original post.

How much this game resembles Oblivion has much to do with what perspective you are judging it from. On it's surface it is very much like oblivion. Big open word game, tons of quests, easy to get overwhelmed.

If you come in to the game expecting some twitch based combat with combos and such you will be disappointed and think that it is just more of the same. If you tried Oblivion and gave up before investing any real time then this game will seem the same.

If you are a big fan of the Elder Scrolls and have played and enjoyed Oblivion you can see where the improvements are, and there are lots of them. But as I said you really need to have played Oblivion to know how Skyrim improves on it.
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Post » Thu May 10, 2012 10:40 pm

Some parts of it are Oblivion 2, others not so much. Most of it is a major improvement/overhaul of the series.

We've got quite a variety of creatures - with a variety in size that's very new, with varying AI instead of all being completely hostile, and that are in habitats appropriate for them rather than just randomly generated. The landscape/game world is a huge improvement, the best Bethesda's ever done by a landslide. Archery has been overhauled fairly effectively as has magic. Magic is a bit bare bones at the moment and could use more variety for some schools, but it feels much better to use - the mechanics are just better but also the visual improvement doesn't hurt either. Melee is lagging behind, still better than Oblivion but still. Part of the problem is just the movement - Beth really needs to tone down strafing and backpedaling speed some more, it's better than Oblivion but still detracts from the experience significantly. UI is better than Oblivion's by far - still a case of consolitis but not as bad. Level scaling is an issue(bandits that are tougher than dragons) but nowhere near as bad as Oblivion either and it's partly for understandable reasons even if not ideal for me. Control scheme definitely needs improvement for PC but that's something we'll probably see fixed - hopefully by Beth but if not by mods.
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Post » Thu May 10, 2012 7:55 pm

Oblivion 2??!?!

This game is Fallout 3 with swords! Perks? Empty container remarks? I sorta feel I've seen this movie already.
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 4:44 am

This is the way I see it.

There's a general problem with this generation of gamers. One word: spoiled. It would take merely an unintelligent man to not acknowledge the vast changes in this game in contrast to Oblivion - to pass this on as "Oblivion 2" is beyond ignorant.

The problem with a game like Skyrim - moreso a problem with the notion of such a game with some people - is that its fundamental open-ness and freedom establishes a gateway for being to complain about certain elements that they feel is missing. In other words, because it is so open, there are countless possibilites, and if it does not touch on every possibility, some people unfortunately take that to heart, and for the weaker-minded, it ruins the whole experience for them.
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 9:22 am

oblivion was morrowind 2
Blasphemy! :nono:
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Post » Thu May 10, 2012 8:49 pm

Ok, I disagree 110%. This game blows Oblivion away, in almost every aspect. I also love this game more than Morrowind, and man, I loved me some Morrowind.
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Post » Thu May 10, 2012 9:11 pm

You're blind if you think like that..Skyrim is almost NOTHING like Oblivion, i liked Oblivion, but i LOVE Skyrim :)
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 6:13 am

Are we playing the same game? You're talking about Skyrim, right? Can't be...
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 4:05 am

Have to disagree there, its quite different to Oblivion and as an Oblivion [Censored] I would know
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 3:02 am

If you don't like it, don't play it.
THIS!!!
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m Gardner
 
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 6:36 am

I have a brilliant idea! Instead of calling skyrim "oblivion 2" or "Morrowind 3", just call it The Elder Scrolls 5.
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 6:08 am

Ok, I disagree 110%. This game blows Oblivion away, in almost every aspect. I also love this game more than Morrowind, and man, I loved me some Morrowind.

This. Morrowind was (is) awesome (much better than Oblivion i think) and Skyrim is MUCH better than Morrowind, and that says alot!
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 10:15 am

I have a brilliant idea! Instead of calling skyrim "oblivion 2" or "Morrowind 3", just call it The Elder Scrolls 5.
That is brilliant. Skyrim is from now on officially TES 5!

:spotted owl:

I have to say, it feels a lot more like fallout 3 than oblivion, but at the same time feels not at all like fallout 3. It's hard to explain.
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 4:44 am

I can't believe how much people are getting upset over the original post.

How much this game resembles Oblivion has much to do with what perspective you are judging it from. On it's surface it is very much like oblivion. Big open word game, tons of quests, easy to get overwhelmed.

If you come in to the game expecting some twitch based combat with combos and such you will be disappointed and think that it is just more of the same. If you tried Oblivion and gave up before investing any real time then this game will seem the same.

If you are a big fan of the Elder Scrolls and have played and enjoyed Oblivion you can see where the improvements are, and there are lots of them. But as I said you really need to have played Oblivion to know how Skyrim improves on it.


Wait...what? I played Oblivion. Are you sure you did?

Let's be objective here-

Combat: Different system than Oblivion except that you wear weapons and armor. Different proficiency system, addition of perks. Elimination of 'power attacks' by for instance attacking while moving backward to cause an enemy to be knocked down or strafing and attacking, disarming the opponent. No more separate cuirass and greaves. No blade skill. No blunt skill. Replaced by one hand and two hand. Addition of finishing moves.

This is not an improvement from Oblivion, it's a different system

Iventory: No 'paper doll'. Odd UI, but similar to Oblivion in the manner that it lets you look at an Inventory at least. Little things have changed, like how books are read

This is not an improvement as it uses an oddly designed UI and works differently than Oblivion's. Different type of inventory

magic: No more 'one shot' spells for everything- now you hold the button down and continue that flame. Spells in either hand. Spells in both hands. Same spell in both hands. Nothing like Oblivion

This is not an improvement from Oblivion, it's a different system

Worldspace: Obviously created differently than Oblivion was

This is not an improvement from Oblivion, it's a different way of doing it

Interactions with NPCs: similar to Oblivion in that NPCs talk to you. Gone is the speechcraft mini-game. Instead, options for speaking are present. Sometimes with options you really shouldn't know

This is not an improvement from Oblivion, it's a different system

Shall I continue??? The game is different. Just like Oblivion was not 'an improvement' of Morrowind. It's different. Same genre, different way of designing the game
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 8:54 am

Its better than jet set willy and thats all I was asking for. Much more depth to the main character than in JSW.

Its a hit for me.

Whats Oblivion?
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Post » Thu May 10, 2012 10:12 pm

No, Fallout was Oblivion, and Skyrim is Fallout..
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 10:37 am

if you dont see how virtually everything is better then you are a fool OP
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 7:24 am

I'm not that far into the game, but I have to disagree with the OP. Skyrim feels a lot like Morrowind with modernized Oblivion Features. But I'm sure that someone before me already said that, so,
+1 to whoever stated that already.
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Post » Fri May 11, 2012 1:29 am

This is NOT Oblivion 2.

Get outta here.
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