There wasn't that much blood to begin with in OB. Now, if we were to talk about Daggerfall, then you'd have a better case.

But as someone who was kept away from violent and bloody games as a child (Mortal Kombat was the largest forbidden gore fruit back when I was little), I will respect your opinion of wanting to tone down blood while playing.

No! If you say yes, go play barbies!

This actually. I would do the exact same thing. If your kid is dumb enough to see you gun down a prosttute in GTA and immediately go find a gun to ice his sister with than Darwinism states he SHOULD be gunned down by federal agents. How come I was allowed to watch Face Off and Hellraiser and stuff like that? Because my parents weren't stupid enough to think that as soon as I see violence I will go on a killing spree. The same thing happened with comic books in the 50s.

http://www.bitmob.com/articles/my-four-year-old-son-plays-grand-theft-auto

This explains all you need to know.

Edit: But as I have said there should be an option to turn it off, strictly for the people that are in 'unique' households.

I wouldn't use it, more than likely, but there's nothing wrong with having the option.

The point of my argument is that the game will (most likely) have an M sticker (in terms of the ESRB, I'm unfamiliar with other systems) on the front of it. As an advlt, if you decide that you are against blood and gore, then it is your judgment when it comes to buying the game. The rating sticker will clearly say Blood and Gore on it, so it's no big secret that the game will contain Blood and Gore. If you are under 17, frankly you have no business playing mature games (legally. I'm not gonna argue justification of that or whether such things prevent it from happening anyways). In America at least, at any respectable game retailer, they require someone of mature age to buy M-rated games, which is usually a parent if you are young. If you are a parent buying a child this game, then you should not object to the blood and gore contained inside because it says it on the box. Just read the things you buy your children.

As an M-rated game, it shouldn't have to have features that cater to a non-M audience. By making it a mature game, they are appealing to a mature audience, the majority of whom are not disturbed by the gore. They shouldn't have to cater to phobias, and they shouldn't cater to minors. That's simply not the target audience.

In other news, though I am not a minor, I should consider myself lucky that Skyrim is the sort of game that my mother would play. She loves her action games...

It doesn't "have to have features that cater to a non-M audience." No one is arguing that it "has to have" anything. The point is that there is a considerably-sized audience that would enjoy the game more if it did have that option, and what's wrong with catering to a larger audience? Especially when the change is rather simple and would only affect those who wanted it.

i thinki it should be optional but since the game is going to have a mature rating, i dont think they will make it optional

edit: oops i jus checked gamestop, the rating's pending

As a middle-aged advlt male, with no kids, I certainly hope (nor do I expect, based on MW & OB) that the game doesn't have the level of violence of, say, Manhunt or a Resident Evil game.

Personally, I find excessive graphic violence to be disgusting. It does not bring me enjoyment....



...and, also personally, I find it to be pretty immature, too. (Depends on the context, of course..... the blood/etc at the beginning of Saving Private Ryan, while disturbing, was there to be disturbing and to emphasize how awful modern war is. A mature use. Meanwhile, the standard flying-buckets-of-entrails that gets dumped all over your typical R-rated "Woohooo! Violence!" film, is there to make Beevis & Butthead go "Heh heh. Blood. Cool." Amazingly immature use. Guess which category I consider most "we're courting controversy" M-rated blood & guts games to be in?)

So, yeah.... I was glad to see that you could turn off the absurdly over-the-top blood splatter in Dragon Age. (honestly, it was incredibly stupid looking.) And if, by some slim chance, Skyrim has a similar level of http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Gorn to your average horror movie, I'll hope that it comes with an optional toggle as well. Or I'll be waiting for a mod to tone it down.

So instead of having the developers work on other more important aspects of the game, you want them to waste their time on this? It's going to be a rated M+ game! Wow.

Let's shelter our children even more! Hell, if we're going to do this, we're going all the way. Our first step to further sheltering our children should be to change the possible races to choose from to http://www.valvigirl.net/quizzes/teletubbies_header.gif.

:facepalm:

EDIT: Those of you who are agreeing with the OP should also look at my signature, since you probably have a probably with that topic also.

I hold very a similar opinion.

I'd be somewhat surprised if the game doesn't have an option to disable the blood/gore in the game. If not I'll be looking to mod it out if it's too far over the top.

"No. If children are in the room, play something else."

Really? Most of the buyers of TES games ARE children (under 18). Well, most of the players, their parents have to buy it.

EDIT: I didn't want to double post but had something else to say, I just read an earlier post. "...is there to make Beevis & Butthead go "Heh heh. Blood. Cool." ". I neerly crapped myself laughing.

If I could 'Like' this comment like I could on facebook I would....LIKE

Having the option to turn gore off (it would be on by default) would be nice. I doubt it would take too much time away from everything else.
If it's only as bad as Oblivion, we probably won't need it.

$100 says the option is already planned to be in the config file and as a graphics variable.

People keep moaning about wanting this game to be realistic, but when it comes to gore every one cringes.
How about realistic gore, which in this type of game would be extremely gory, due to the weapons used and the fact you're setting dudes on fire. I would say that gore is fundamental for a game like this, if realism is the goal.

Gore is natural and real and people shouldn't be afraid of it...especially in a game.
I've been hunting deer, where I have shot, skinned, gutted, cooked and eaten the deer. That is a gory experience. I also study Forensic Science, a very gory subject.
Lions and crocodiles hunt animals too...but you don't see them being pristine and scared of making a mess.

If you don't believe in gore then you are the immature ones...and the weak ones too.

This poll is kinda biased so I can't answer it but I do agree that their should be an option to turn it off but not for the reasons that the OP stated. I personally don't care I like the gore in Fallout 3 even though it was over the top.

This is disgusting. Video games and TV do have a suggestive influence on children even teens and young advlts. I can't believe how insensitive you guys are. Every year, on the news, I see reports of young children jumping out of windows trying to be "superman", or young advlt trying to pull off stunts see on Too Fast Too Furious.

On that note. Turning off the blood and gore is not going to solve matters, the violence is still there. But in a matter of system performance or to appease those who want it, why not?

Nope, would waste time of the devs... TES have IMO become some sort of simulation game and no blood is irrealistic...

one of the things that oblivion was missing was GORE. this one has like finishers and stuff which screams GORE!!!
i like video games because IRL i probably won't kill ANYTHING, so in a game i want it gory to the max!

I voted yes. At the very least we need an option to turn it down.

Um.

No.

Just no.

Not remotely.

Alright Plato, that was irrelevant. This is a game, and game's aren't real. You're at no disadvantage if they give us the option to turn off blood/gore.

I've tried that, often I get ambushed and have to fight back

In the demo for DA II there were times I couldn't see what was happening on-screen because of all the blood splashing around. I would definitely like an option to turn off/down exaggerated gore.

I find it curious that the media allows violence, but then puts a filter on the effect/ consequences of that violence. The idea of censoring the violence is supposedly so younger people don't become desensitized to it. Wouldn't it be better to show the consequences of the violence along with the violence instead of having it teach that there is no consequences to violent actions? What I'm trying to get at is: is hiding the blood going to make an inexperienced person think that slicing someone is not going to have harmful effects?
If there is violence and they don't want to show its harmful effects, then they should remove that violence altogether, which I don't want to see happen to Skyrim.

Otherwise, I don't know about the console versions, but Oblivion on PC had an option to remove the blood decals during gameplay, so I don't see why they wouldn't provide a similar option for Skyrim.