Agreed.

I agree with this too. If it just said "Reasons why I didn't like Skyrim" or "Things that Skyrim could improve on" That would have been much better. Oh, and leave out the bit where you mainly did this because FNV wasn't put on sale. That probably closed a lot of people off to what you were saying right there, op. It almost did to me.

No. Your reason to complain has to be that Skyrim was only on sale for 75% off once.

Sorry my post was off topic.

Do people even bother to read the op? I mean, if people are really gonna discuss something they feel should be changed, can it at least be on topic? This is supposed to be about horse riding.

OP, I highly recommend you request this to be locked, call the next thread "Things that I did not like about Skyrim Day 1" and leave out the part about the sale thing, then repost the horse riding bit. And put in big bold red letters that people need to stay on topic, since people apparently don't read the op.

Just a suggestion.

I am bored of seeing that video thrown in to try and support any argument about any bad mechanics or the difficulty level of this game. I could create videos about loads of other game series just like the guy who did that.

So let us consider that particular argument null and void.

I'm actually surprised this has made it to page 3 without being locked yet. The only argument I agree with is. No respect at the end of Helgen. As an rp player, who plays most characters as DID, this would be greatly appreciated. I am sick of Helgen at this point

I actually thought it was a good vid. But my problem is that its way off topic, and people who post it expect people to just know what he's talking about. There's a lot of things said in that video. If you haven't seen it, people dont want to watch like a 30 min video in the middle of a discussion. If you have a point from the video that is relevant, type it.

Oh don't get me wrong it's a good video, and has a few valid points. But this is the umpteenth time I've seen it thrown into a topic where it doesn't belong.

this threads are always funny.

nice community. always complaining, but still playing.

You read the op? You know what the repect I had for you has raised from -50 to 50. Also mentioned how the current state of horse riding didn't bother you. Could you elaborate on that? Maybe you are seeing something that I don't.


I was thinking that myself. If I'm to continue it's a good evelve the op due to the rather fickle community.

I can forgive most flaws in Skyrim... like bad writing, meh I can fill in poor writing with my imagination, bland quests... meh I can roleplay my own quests, short guilds, meh no fast travel or HUD extends a fetch quest tenfold... but I cannot simply imagine my way out of killcams. They are there, every time I kill the last wolf in a pack I get the same lame ass choke slam animation. I literally cannot understand their reasoning for forcing such an abominable feature.

Killcams are the videogame equivalent of an action figure which screams when you pull a string in its back. These toys were always for the dumb kids who had no imagination.

Kill cams make battles considerably less epic.

A kill cam can trivialise an awesome battle. It can take a long fight with a bandit leader, and snatch the final blow away from me.

They are the worst thing to happen to this great series.

Sure. The main points you made were the lack of pivoting and the difficulty of hitting things with a weapon. It is much simpler after you find a good way to fight. The easiest and most strategic way I've discovered isn't to different from real life. Simply hold down rt for a power attack, and gallop towards your enemy. When they're in range of your sword while you're running past them, strike. Runn past them, turn around and repeat. Works great, and your horse won't get hurt as often. Trying to fight an enemy on horseback without constantly moving is a bad idea, mainly because your horse is getting hit, but also because if you're using a one handed sword, your range will seem shorter than normal, as you're on a horse. Hit and run tactics. Medieval drive by. Accept we stay til the job is done.

For arrows, its pretty much the same thing, accept you just make sure you keep your distance, and your enemy is relatively in front of you so you can see. This will be much easier depending on your archery skill level and if you have the slow motion aiming perk. And depending on your level, arrows will actually auto aim somewhat on your enemy if you shot near it.

Horse riding is a bit weird to get used to at first, which is fine as you are controlling a horse while trying to fight, so it makes sense. But once you get used to it and learn a few tricks of the trade, it is very useful and very deadly.

off topic

(guy rages on skyrim)
(guy buys VI)
(guy rages on VI)

New Vegas' price was lowered during the sale. In fact, I bought the Ultimate Edition two days after Christmas.

So, it's just like every 2nd topic on the board or so. Redundant much?

I guess that is possible but I don't think reasonable expectation that dev can make on the player. If I miss in mount and blade it's 100% my fault not because the game had fooling animations. If the game would allow me to go in 3rd person while riding I think it would improve the combat quite alot. I could see that the bow doesn't follow my camera. I could see at which part of the sword swing hits the enemy (now my character is partially blocking my LoS).


40% off isn't a sale. Every steam user knows that. On top of that I only 5€. 5€ gets me dlc at 75%.

I think it has less to do with the fickle community and more with the fact that this thread was made with the motivation of "40% isn't enough of a sale for NV, I'll think I'm going to complain about Skyrim." What?!

I'm assuming you mean first person. But either way, I don't think that would improve much. It would just make things look even worse, as things you expect to hit wouldn't be hit, and you can't see your surroundings as well. Plus with a sword, it doesn't matter what you're looking at, it matters where your horse is positioned. Thats something that might be a necessity, as it would be hard to hit things while you're moving if you had to aim directly at it while moving a horse. The arrow however should hit wherever you're aiming.

I know its very anol for me to say this but Im sure a few people will agree with me here, that these kinds of topics should not be allowed, cause damn, the whole board gets flooded with them. How many times do you need to say the game svcks....

Sure, horses can be improved and not being able to jump while sprinting does svck, but Skyrim has much bigger flaws to worry about.

Oops yeah I meant 1st.

But I don't see an issue allowing first person after all you can change from 1st to 3rd as many times you like when you are not mounted. Also isn't gameplay trade offs the whole point of 1st and 3rd person. 3rd gives more awereness while 1st gives control. I usually in M&B ride in 3rd person but when I try to hit something a switch into 1st. It's surprisingly easy to miss with a lance if you ride in 3rd person.



Well forum rules specifially allow constructive crisism and I didn't actually say skyrim svcks (if you read the op that is).


Yeah I know but horseriding isn't something that is covered all the time while being relatively big part of skyrim. Skyrim is essentially combat focused game (a dungeon crawler) and main combat is focused melee, sneak and ranged and after those comes mounted combat.

Yup, options are always good. It'd be nice to go in first person as a werewolf as well.