PS3 Release for Dawnguard - Thread #7 : V - Skyrim

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:28 pm

People are totally entitled to be upset and to voice their displeasure. It is never justified to make personal attacks on a person, or to curse at them. That is juvenile and unacceptable behavior. There has to be a line between dissatisfied customer and internet troll. Being a dissatisfied customer is totally fine, being a hostile and insulting troll is not. Of course I'm still referring specifically to the trolls on twitter. I just wanted to clear up my statement. I'm not saying don't complain, I'm saying complain all you want, but behave like rational and civil advlts while complaining.

While I don't think Hines really deserves people to be going off on him like it's the opening scene of Full Metal Jacket, I don't think he, or Gstaff for that matter, are really handling things the best way possible. Occasionally saying "I have nothing to tell you" and then (in Pete's case) really acting annoyed/passive aggressive/snotty towards people who don't think that's a good enough response (which it isn't) isn't effective communication.

If they gave some sort of status report as to what's not running right on the PS3, i.e. bugs, glitches, lag, crashes, freezes, whatever or how many people thy actually have working on it (I suspect it's a small number, looking at how they've handled the PS3 in the past), I imagine people would be more understanding. But that's not what's happening. People expressed their displeasure in a respectful way, but nothing happened regarding it and now they're much more upset, and while their behavior isn't something I condone, I think by and large Bethesda's brought it on themselves.

When the only update we get about the state of this DLC is "I'm not saying anything to you," and the only solutions we get for bugs is either "Don't do that," or "Start the game over, thanks for playing," (Both of which are "solutions" Gstaff has suggested in the past) Bethesda's PR and communication is officially a bust.

Again, I don't think those people are going about things the right way, but neither is Bethesda. A lot of this ire could probably be taken care of if they actually bothered to relate to the public the state of things, rather than act indignant that people are beginning to doubt their competence regarding the PS3.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:58 pm

It's not really over a game, it's the concept.

Again this isn't the first time PS3 has been in a sense screwed over. Where PS3 has not been given information, where products have been delayed for up to a year, and so on and so forth. All they have to do is say a few words and most the immaturity and threats and what not would stop. If they said the game is just so buggy it needs a heck of a lot of work and won't be out for a while, people would calm down. It's the silence.

This is currently the third worst game delay of 2012 apparently, and I have to say the things on that list were games from 2008 announcements being delayed further into the years. There have been plenty of articles talking about how bethesda has essentially screwed up. People are angry, you can't expect them to just not be angry. They want information about something that everyone else has, and they just say we don't have information. PS3 players say how can you not have information when it's done for everyone else? And they just say we don't have information.

Same answer every time, and people on the PS3 just upset cause they don't get all the DLC's or all the content and such as other systems and they don't want to spend another few hundred dollars to switch over to another console and then rebuy the game and the DLC's.

All they need to do is speak, and the anger will calm down. But they refuse to speak, which again tells me that we're in for months of a wait up to a year for this to hit the PS3 users.

Here, Here! I won't switch over consoles because 1. It's too expensive and 2. It's the lack of respect on Bethesda's part for not providing information they obviously have that they are refusing to share. They obviously don't give a crap about their fan base on the PS3. They have acted this way towards us time and time again.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:16 pm

While I don't think Hines really deserves people to be going off on him like it's the opening scene of Full Metal Jacket, I don't think he, or Gstaff for that matter, are really handling things the best way possible. Occasionally saying "I have nothing to tell you" and then (in Pete's case) really acting annoyed/passive aggressive/snotty towards people who don't think that's a good enough response (which it isn't) isn't effective communication.

If they gave some sort of status report as to what's not running right on the PS3, i.e. bugs, glitches, lag, crashes, freezes, whatever or how many people thy actually have working on it (I suspect it's a small number, looking at how they've handled the PS3 in the past), I imagine people would be more understanding. But that's not what's happening. People expressed their displeasure in a respectful way, but nothing happened regarding it and now they're much more upset, and while their behavior isn't something I condone, I think by and large Bethesda's brought it on themselves.

When the only update we get about the state of this DLC is "I'm not saying anything to you," and the only solutions we get for bugs is either "Don't do that," or "Start the game over, thanks for playing," (Both of which are "solutions" Gstaff has suggested in the past) Bethesda's PR and communication is officially a bust.

Again, I don't think those people are going about things the right way, but neither is Bethesda. A lot of this ire could probably be taken care of if they actually bothered to relate to the public the state of things, rather than act indignant that people are beginning to doubt their competence regarding the PS3.

Hines is the one who represents Bethesda. He's PR so yes, he is going to receive the brunt of the fan's blow. He should have prepared for that. His snarky remarks are completely unacceptable. We have a right to be pissed.

» Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:58 pm

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1405451-ps3-release-for-dawnguard-thread-8/