Was speaking in terms of it being TES is not the only draw as well as the game needing more than just a popular IP to sustain itself. Sure the IP will bring people in but what will keep them here and keep them playing? You'll need proper End game, both PvE and PvP to do that. So the game having RvR based PvP which is very popular among MMOrs will go a long way and will be a big draw.

Rift's housing system is one of the best I've ever seen. I hope ZOS takes a page from that book.

Fair enough. But the IP also includes setting, characters, monsters, story, etc etc... It is a bit of an unfair comparison. An IP is a big thing.

I would say the IP will keep people there as well, probably more so, but again, it is an unfair comparison. I know none of the other features would matter to me at all if this wasn't a TES game. I simply wouldn't bother. The TES IP has kept me interested this entire time, nothing else has. I like the other features and they will help keep me in the game though. I have no idea how representative that will be though.

In any case, every feature is important, how important it is to the majority is hard to really say. I would say the IP is more important than the RvR concept, but that doesn't mean that RvR concept is in anyway unimportant.

That would be my ideal, I did NOTHING but decorated and I looooooooved it. If ESO had that kind of housing my brain would explode. I still log on only to decorate.

Yeah IDK about that, PvE has always been more popular than PvP and DAOC, arguably the only true RvR game ever made to date (WAR was only 2 factions and GW2 strayed too far from the formula), only had 250,000 people play it, myself included. Even if we assume that all of them loved it and want nothing more than to revisit that formula in a modern MMO, then that still pales in comparison to the player-base of TES, even if we're only counting the PC player-base of TES.

Now that's not to say the PvP isn't a draw for many, as the combat system and flexible classes are likely a draw as well, but it's not realistic to imagine that the IP of TES isn't the biggest and most unique of those draws. By biggest btw, I didn't mean individually, I meant in amount of people drawn but what aspects of the game.

That being said, a game cannot survive on IP alone. IP will bring people in, but it's game-play and community that will keep them for most.

For me the draw of the game is the IP, and I think I am not the only one. I really have no interest in PvP.

polls r worth nothing, rome2 had 90+ score in almost every poll, that game was overhyped with marketing money.

follow the game feeds and you will see very fast that ESO is worth every penny when it is released. thus far.

Demanding more? Like what? If you mean graphics then get over it, MMOs never have the graphics quality single player games do, or they risk shutting out all except those with the most powerful computers (Skyrim graphics with hundreds of players engaging in PvP at the same time would make most computers cry).

I thought the trailer was pretty epic. I've been waiting for DAOC-style PvP for a decade now. ESO looks like it's going to deliver exactly that.

I have only gotten involved with Elder Scrolls since Oblivion, so I am really not stuck in the lore; particularly since I have never played a vanilla game of Oblivion or Skyrim. Now that said, I have well over 2600 hours of playtime in Skyrim. I am also not much of a fan of MMO PvP multiplayer games either, for obvious reasons that only I know from experience. (I have played all of the Mass Effect games except for the ME3 multiplayer. It doesn't interest me in the least.)

Lets face it some of the worse criticized movies have gone on to be blockbusters. I will just have to see it for myself.

I can't speak for Darkfall, but Planetside 2 doesn't have 200 players on screen at the same time. In the larger battles you'll see a massive amount of culling. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFdjxQQmG_w is a good example, notice how players appear out of thin air.