PS3 Graphics

Post » Sat May 19, 2012 12:18 am

For the love of all things technical...stop setting RGB FULL unless you have a monitor or your TV specifically says it supports it. I'd go as far as to select LIMITED irregardless of capabilities. Learn to calibrate TV's properly before listening to people blowing smoke up your ass.

:facepalm:

RGB Full looks better to me and it seems my display supports it
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Lawrence Armijo
 
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 3:27 pm

The 360 has better graphics and there is a simple reason why.

Developers ignore the potential of the ps3.

All multi-plat games are lovingly developed on the 360 then ported haphazardly onto the ps3. The ps3 suffers due to the limitations of the adbox.

The ps3 is the bastard child of this console generation.

That's not true. Several multiplatform companies make the PS3 the lead platform and regardless, most have learned how to utilize its architecture to at least squeeze out equivalent performance out of the PS3. For examples of multiplatform games this year that are just as well done or even more well done on the PS3, there is AC: Revelations, Battlefield 3, Portal 2, Saints Row 3, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Dark Souls, anything EA-developed (not EA published, EA developed as in anything by EA's own in-house development teams; this includes Need for Speed), etc. Bethesda are an abnormality. This is an otherwise very good time to be a PS3 owner as the PS3 has now nearly caught up to 360 sales, yet has a significantly higher sale rate and is gaining more and more support. Does the PS3 suffer from ports? Yes, yes it does just as any platform may, but we're getting treated pretty well, now, and the PS3 is most certainly not in a worldwide position of inferiority in terms of support, anymore. Bethesda... just don't seem to understand proper Q & A and that only compounds the reality that they're twisted around Microsoft's finger more than most multiplatform companies, never were the best programmers, and don't seem to have all that much interest or knowledge of the PS3's architecture in designing their games in the first place.

The PS3 may have started off as the bastard child of this console generation, but it's not like that any longer. SDK tools have been vastly improved, the PS3 has become more familiar, and Sony still retained their first-person development teams (although, while I do respect them, the lack of RPGs from them make me interested in few of their games with perhaps a small interest in Naughty Dog's Uncharted series... but I hate how short they are) and, to some degree, the favor of some great Japanese companies (can't wait for the PS3-exclusive Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch this upcoming year as well as Final Fantasy Versus XIII. In addition, Sony have a clear advantage with XIII-2, if XIII-2 has the same technical specs as its, in my opinion, pretty poor, overly linear predecessor, although hopefully they've learned for XIII-2, they have the Last Guardian coming up and, for those that actually care, there is Tales of Grace F which is confirmed for an early 2012 NA release date). The 360 does not have control over this generation like the PS2 did last generation and is, in fact, proving to be the inferior platform, at this stage in the game, with the exception of a game like Skyrim and the crappy, lazy, annual Call of Duty iteration and the few second-party exclusives Microsoft has going for it which I don't really care for either (as I said... give me RPGs... Halo and Gears of War are not RPGs... and Bungie and Epic will probably take the initiative of programming for future Sony platforms as they are not tied to Microsoft, being second-party companies).

This is a good time to be a PS3 player and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. We're the apex of the PS3's value. If only North America would take more notice... but the 360 is just dead in Japan and the PS3's more a platform of choice in Europe and growing. I sense some nationalistic pride affecting sales here (U.S. goes for American console, Japan goes for Japanese console, Europe, free of any national console, go with a more even split, but an advantage for the evidently better platform of the two). Microsoft wants you to believe the 360 is the greatest thing since sliced bread just as much as Sony want you to believe the PS3 is, but free of corporate jargon and propaganda, the PS3 truly is emerging as the superior of the two platforms in even company support. Bethesda are just kind of tied to Microsoft, both being American, like Square Enix is to Sony. Then there's Level-5, whose relationship with Microsoft is so poor that I don't expect them to develop for another Microsoft platform any time soon (and so we're lucky enough to get their PS3-exclusive JRPG Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch - beautiful, traditional, cel-shaded JRPG with an overworld map, great characters, Studio Ghibli powering all the animation and creating the beautiful music, and a smooth 60 fps performance... now that's the kind of PlayStation JRPG I've been waiting this entire, disappointing, slow to pick-up console generation for). The PS3 has first-party support Microsoft just can't compete with, second-party support that the 360 can't compete with (if you're an RPG fan such as myself, that is), and third-party support that's pretty equal between the two platforms right now with a few give-and-takes for both sides, yet a generally level playing field.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 12:24 pm

Graphics on my PS3 copy look great! And I'm not just "less picky". I'm not afraid to say a game has [censored] graphics. But yeah, the game looks great on my TV (which is massive).
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 11:43 am

I have been playing Skyrim on the PS3 since launch. I borrowed a friends 360 copy the other night just to compare. Is there is difference? Yes, but not enough to really complain about (Assuming your game is playable). There are games where the differences are more severe. Call of Duty Black Ops (At least for me and my friends) on the PS3 was a blurry pile of [censored] no matter how much I tried to adjust it, but on the Xbox360 it had little to no issues. I usually prefer games on the PS3 and generally try to do some research before buying a game. There was not much info on the PS3 Skyrim before launch other than Pete Hines Twitter post "Watched Todd play Skyrim for quite a while. Had no idea he was playing PS3 version until he held up controller. So PS3 owners, don't fret." That should have been a big red flag that something was wrong with the PS3 version.

Dark Souls is a good example of a game that both systems perform almost identical. It is a shame how Bethesda knowingly released a sub-par game and screwed over their customers. Hopefully they will somehow manage to redeem themselves. I am 160+ hours in and cannot complain since I have yet to experience the issues that some of you are having to deal with. I know money does not grow on trees, but it really is nice to have access to both systems so you can purchase the version that performs the best. Plus being a fanboyy is so 2007. Anyway, I will shut the [censored] up. Good luck to all with issues, hope the patch helps.

*Really Bethesda? You change Fan Boy* to "Really devoted fan". /rollseyes
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 2:34 pm

RGB Full looks better to me and it seems my display supports it

As far as I know, no hdtv supports RGB full. If you use it, it does appear to look better, but in reality you'll be clipping blacks pretty badly.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 3:47 pm

RGB Full looks better to me and it seems my display supports it

And that's totally cool. Watch things how ever you like. Just remember that "better" is subjective, accurate is not. That's all I'm trying to say.
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 8:39 am

As far as I know, no hdtv supports RGB full. If you use it, it does appear to look better, but in reality you'll be clipping blacks pretty badly.

I'm aware that it clips blacks, so I checked with some calibration techniques and adjusted it a little...looks better than grayish blacks, so I don't care if it clips them or not
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 5:13 am

*Radio Static* HDMI Cables Are A go.... Roger
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 12:59 am

Hi,

My question is about graphics on PS3. Sorry if this is already a topic somehwere else but I have looked through other posts and the majority seem to be concerned with the lag issues on PS3. I haven't encountered these yet as I am still fairly early in the game. No doubt I will have that pleasure soon!

My issue is the graphics. Are they really that poor or is there some issue on my side? They are blury and very low res. They are not sharp at all. Dungeons in particular are poor. It can be hard to make out any sharp detail unless you are right on top of something. Everything seems just blurry and washed out.

Is this a known issue with the PS3 that Bethesda have acknowledged or are we all getting the run-around?

Maybe I am just looking back with rose tinted glasses but I honestly think Oblivion looked much better. Much much sharper.

Also I can actually see the textures redrawing/rendering as I move. I can see low res textures being replaced as I walk. About 5 metres in front of the player. Especially in third person view.
It actually looks like it is being played in SD instead of HD.
And before anyone asks I am playing this on a 32" HD samsung tv which was only purchased a few months ago. So the issue is not there.

I've seen some screenshots (from PC/360) and the textures are infinitely better. I dont get any shine on walls or any real detail even up close.


It's your tv mate. I griped about how craptastic ps3 graphics are/were for the last six months as compared to pc to a buddy of mine who is hardcoe ps3 and the entire time he kept on about how it was my tv. Now, I had a digital tv but it was 8 years old. I finally opened the wallet and bought a new 1080p 120hz tv and ... whoa!!! blown away by how amazing the graphics are. I still have to wear a bib to catch all the drool. :)
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 2:58 am

It's your tv mate. I griped about how craptastic ps3 graphics are/were for the last six months as compared to pc to a buddy of mine who is hardcoe ps3 and the entire time he kept on about how it was my tv. Now, I had a digital tv but it was 8 years old. I finally opened the wallet and bought a new 1080p 120hz tv and ... whoa!!! blown away by how amazing the graphics are. I still have to wear a bib to catch all the drool. :)
That's great, but the PS3 doesn't render any games save but a few really less intensive ones (sports games or PSN downloadable titles) above 720p and it doesn't render any game, period, above 60 Hz and most don't even go above 30 Hz. That's still a great TV and will definitely last for the next console generation, with 1080p resolutions being the standard, however, and definitely better than a non HDTV, but you really didn't need to buy that awesome of a TV unless you're really in love with Blu-Ray movies or preparing for the future. Just a bit of buyer's advice...


That's a great TV, though. How large is it?
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 12:31 am

Really guys, it's not TV settings, the graphics are just plain awful. The textures are poor, the shadows were rendered on an N64, just overall bad.
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Trent Theriot
 
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Post » Sat May 19, 2012 2:15 pm

Really guys, it's not TV settings, the graphics are just plain awful. The textures are poor, the shadows were rendered on an N64, just overall bad.

+1 at least someone isn't blind.

EDIT: But then again, the texture res did seem to improve a tiny bit after I reinstalled the game like twice. But the game still looks muddy. I also noticed that the further you sit away from your tv, the better it looks. Lol
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