I wouldn't be surprised if it's near impossible to bring a software developer to court over something like this...even when planes fall out of the sky due to faulty software, there is probably a "buyer beware" somewhere in the small print.

im with you im tired of getting the short end of the stick for the same price as the superior version unless this is patched im pretty sure bethesda is gonna lose a ton of loyal customers

I'm not even really mad at the programmers. My real issue is with whoever had the job of officially giving the game the seal of approval.

No past PS3 Bethesda games had problems making the game progressively unplayable from the very beginning, however. 30-40 hours in... that's how far (or rather not too far) people reporting severe levels of the current issue are. That's it. The A-bomb thing only ever hit after several hundred hours and didn't get progressively worse. Fallout 3's problem didn't arise until the DLC/GOTY edition hit. Skyrim, from the get-go, is already the most unstable PS3 game released by Bethesda (Oblivion being the most stable... but Bethesda didn't even port the game to the PS3, themselves, strangely).

We, as console players, can always utilize our ace in the hole. We can buy games used and not a cent will go to those that actually created the game.

Everyone calm the [censored] down, fraud, suing what the hell has the forums turned to, if you're experiencing lag because of a large save file, create a new character and enjoy this master piece even more. And why the hell would Bethesda sell us a broken game, it isn't broken. It's playable and amazing, large games like theese always come with bugs and what not. And how the hell do you are you sure that the OP knows what he's talking about, he could be a troll for all we know, he just JOINED, and ever since the game launched more and more trolls keep joining. There isn't a game that's this large, with this much content, that doesn't have bugs or lag at the release date. The forums have gone to hell....

Create a new character?

Excuse me I must be mistaking... Are you defending this POS port?

You have obviously not experienced what some of us have.

dude the first 20 hours were amazing after that i was lagging so bad i couldnt even aim at things i was trying to hit im use to some framerate drops but when it makes the game unplayable there is no excuse we paid full price for this game and we atleast deserve something that works

How would creating a new character solve anything? I'd be getting as far as I have with my current character until the problems start again, and then I'd have to create a new character again? I don't want to play the 1/4 of this game over and over and over.

Yes I have, I was 20+ in aswell, my main quest bugged, I got over it and created a new character, I did that because I don't give a rats ass if I have to start over because I enjoy the game alot, and the constant nagging about suing Bethesda and what not is just too much. It isn't a bad port.

I don't think anyone can take legal action. Remember the industry has applied pressure to ignorant Govt. officials to remove your consumer rights in the name of protecting their products from piracy, the end result is that you do not actually own the game and you did not purchase the product. You bought a license to use their product for as long as they see fit.

Kinda lucky on their part that the anti-piracy law also protects them when releasing a broken game.....

Are you actually serious?? You're fine with repeating the first part of the game over and over with different characters? You're in the dissappearingly slow minority then. The VAST majority actually want to get as much as humanly possible out of a game...

are you serious this frame rate issue is really bad i dont mind a few bugs but when i cant even enter a town without the game slowing down so bad i end up walking straight into walls and and finding it nearly impossible to interact with anything then theres a problem

This is after all a Elder scrolls game, my first character was a stealthy Khajiit, the main quest bugged, so i decided to start a mage, and who said something about playing the same thing over and over again. I can choose to join different guilds and what not. I just enjoy it alot more then you people seem to.

"It isn't a bad port"... So having to restart due to game breaking frame rate drops isn't a problem?

You my friend lack the backbone to stick up for yourself and your fellow gamer.

OK, I REALLY can't take this seriously... Yes it's an ELDER SCROLLS game. Supposed to last 200 hours, not 20.

I just thought I was pissed off...

One thing that gets to me more than corruption and greed is the people who are willing to blindly defend it in the name of "peace"

No, the game has been in development for years. This whole lag issue should not be in the game in the first place. This is not Skyrim Beta. I don't go around paying $60 for unfinished products.

''The backbone to stick up for yourself and your fellow gamer.'' To stick up for my fellow gamer ? I waited 5 years for Skyrim, and correct me if i'm wrong the frame rate issues tend to happen after about 30+ hours ? I've seen and played worse, wait it out for a patch. Now excuse me whilst I'm going to play this master piece with my new character, the constant complaining is too much for me.

I can't even tell if you're being serious... is this the mentality that's infested consumerism?

Boy, boy, boy.... All I can say is that if Bethesda doesn't take care of this major flaw there could be serious PR toll to pay.

As for myself, I am withholding my judgement of Bethesda until after the second patch comes out. My logic is that they simply have to address this. A google search for "PS3 Skyrim" is already yielding hundreds of results pertaining to this very issue. Bethesda cannot afford to ignore it. I'm giving them their chance, and I believe you all should as well. Because I have hundreds of hours invested into Oblivion, and it still runs just as smooth as when I first started playing, I have no reason to doubt Bethesda's competency in this.

I'm coming from having played Arena, Daggerfall, Battlespire, Morrowind, and Oblivion. At least we aren't getting stuck in walls and falling inexplicably into some void. I think in due time everything is going to be OK with Skyrim. Just give it time.

I love my new car! It only breaks down every 2000 miles... what's the big deal.

Welcome to the age of acceptance.

i dont think he can face reality hope he has fun running into walls and lagging into towns knocking over fruit stands and such

If there's a reason to be pissed off, it's waiting 5 years for a game, expecting for it to be even bigger and longer than it's predecessor, and get to play it for 20 hours...

I agree with you. I was only saying don't expect a patch in a week.

Right or wrong it is what it is.