What they did is no crime, now if you downloaded the game free now that's a crime!

See how things work? Million dollar companies screwing consumers...okay! Consumers screwing million dollar companies...against the law

Pack your bags boys, it's over. "Always trying to combat" that's code for it will not be fixed.

Are you insinuating that I have every made any kind of hostile post towards Bethesda?

You seem to think that I'm here to aimlessly vent my anger at whatever happens to get under my skin (like you).

Drogo, let me make it real clear why I'm here, I'm here to make my voice be heard as loud as possible.
I want these forums to be a storm of outspoken unhappiness with the PS3 version of the game.

You are not helping us, you are only distracting people from what we need to focus on.

Go play the game and stop pointlessly coming here to be an ass hole

I have never pirated a video game before, and never intended to... Until Skyrim.

Why should i have to pay another ￡40 for a working copy of a game i have already bought? Simple answer, i shouldn't. And when my new PC arrives, more thought will go into the idea of procuring myself a free copy of the game.

With the immense pressure they are currently under, they have no choice but to resolve this issue. The only way I can see them doing that is one of two ways.

A. Either be able to fix it via a patch.
B. Product recall, so they can take the time to properly remake the game specifically for the PS3, and not an Xbox port.

You're wasting your time with him. He trolls every thread about this issue.

Consider your high calling to this mission accomplished.

Lol, hardly. It will be accomplished when I get a game that I can play for more than 20 hours.

In case you're not aware, this is the PS3 section of Skyrim's hardware and software issues sub-forum. Need I really say more?

I have extremely little faith that either of you're stated options will fix the game.

A: They will release a patch. But i sincerely doubt it will fix the lag. If they couldn't terminate the LAG at development level, what makes you think they could do it through a patch?

B: Won't happen either. As with most coporations, all Bethesda seems to care about is money. Doing a recall would cost them a quite considerable amount of money, so the more likely option, and coincidentally cheaper, will be to attempt (and in all probability, fail) to patch the game.

Are they under pressure though? By whom?

By us, the paying customers they screwed. And how much do they care about us? Not even enough to acknowledge the problem in the first place. Not even enough to post on these forums.

By the gaming media?

Those clowns that gave this broken game stellar reviews..


Go to another gaming forum. Not even those bleeding heart [censored] at NeoGaf are paying attention to this, you'll find one or two posts complaining in the middle of 100s from the people playing the other versions of the game.

I think you will find a lot of people will just join to ask wtf is wrong with this game.
I only just joined because I was having problems so I came to the skyrim forums and see every ones in the same sinking boat

Guys ( and gals ) you've all been snookered.

This isn't a new bug. It's one that's existed with Bethesda's version of this engine since FO3's DLC was released. The fact that they tried to market Skyrim as being made with a "new" engine is just another indication of how cynical and underhanded this company has become.

They knew the bug was there. They knew they weren't going to fix it. But since it doesn't manifest in time for any reviewers to see it ( if the reviewer actually even plays the PS3 version instead of copy-and-pasting the 360 review ) they figured it wouldn't impact their sales. And they were right.

The only way to send a message is to punish them financially. Do not buy any product with Bethesda's name on it new. Only buy used if you have to buy at all. If customers keep giving them money for shoddy products they'll never change.

This will ( barring a miracle ) be the first TES game I don't buy. There was a time where I'd put Bethesda right up there with the best game companies around. Sure their games had bugs, but at least they seemed to be trying to fix what they could. What we have now is a company that is willing to ship multiple games over several years with the same crippling bug without even an acknowledgment of it. They've become an example of everything that's wrong with the industry.

I think it can be summed up in 2 words: Negligent laziness

If you can't get a refund from the point of purchase, pretty sure all discs have manufacturers warranties. I will certainly be using this if Blockbuster refuse to refund my game.

Implications of piracy? Yeah. Not staying open.