u think that but a ps3 pretty much works like every game system except pc and xbox because they were both made by microsoft, and other beth games worked perfectly, its just bad delivery by beth with skyrim

There is not such thing as a 100% bug free game, there are still bugs in all the games you play. Just the most damaging and noticeable ones have been worked out, normal players don't notice or know how to find the ones that are left. oblivion even has bugs in it to this day I make use one of such bug quite often...so no the game is not perfectly bug free.

Yet again we are getting the worse deal from bethesda , come on guys how long does it take to bring out a dlc which is not buggy , good companies like EA , Rockstar , Bioware etc etc make games for multi platform and have no bugs like the elder scrolls series , obviously you guys are not as talented as these other companys , i'm seriously thinking of getting dragon age 3 when it comes and also got Fifa 13 coming on 28th september for multi platforms .

bethesda will lose PS3 fans over this and i guess that is what was in the contract with Microsoft , so stick to your contract and go try and rob money from other poor peeps

Wrong.

maybe they should try to make some PS3 exclusives then they learn fast enough, i think they cant possably do worse than fable2 for the xbox360 when it first came out the only game that was worse than skyrim that i ever played. i dont know how fable2 works now but when it first was released it was one big bug and that was a Xbox360 exclusive at the time.

yeah most games have bugs but they are not as bad as bethesda games so go and play it on your xbox

You lost me there.

No worse than Bugthesda.

I think their blog post is a lie. They haven't been diligently working on a damn thing for PS3.

After releasing: FO3:GOTY, FONV+DLC, which was followed recently by FONV:UE and Skyrim - all broken for PS3 - we are supposed to believe they have had some corporate 'change of heart' and now give a damn about PS3 users? This is the same company that KNOWINGLY sold me something utterly broken in November, only to make me wait until February to even approach fixing it. But now they care so much that they are withholding buggy product?

I don't think so.

But even if you are taking their word this doesn't make them look any better, now they are just truly incompetent or irresponsible. The latter because they have stopped supporting the PS3 3 months ago and barely got the game running. The former because they have been working with the same game engine for like 10 years and the PS3 hardware specs have been known for like six.

Protip Bethesda - get the Vanilla Skyrim working well first and then it would have been easier to add content. You did the bare minimum to stop the torrent of hate and gamer mag articles and then dropped the ball.

I expect they're not going to do anything to optimize DG for PS3, but that mysteriously it will appear in a GOTY edition for PS3 and like FONV:UE it will be incredibly broken, and unsupported.

Whoa whoa whoa... Where are you getting the idea it would only take them a MONTH to patch anything? Ps3 still has yet to get the 1.06 patch. I believe it's been 4.5 months now. Whatever you are smoking I would like some.

Hey, atleast PS3 users wont have that many bugs.

I'm thinking Bethesda could have saved themselves a lot of hassle and whining by simply not releasing anything at all for the PS3 until they managed to get it to a GOTY-edition level of stability and playability. Announcing its availability up front just generated unreasonable hopes and expectations among the PS3 community.

That way, instead of negotiating a 30 day exclusive for DLCs on the 360, they could simply have negotiated a ~1 year console exclusive for the 360 and not delayed any of the PC releases at all.

I'll admit I just don't care one way or the other HOW they do any of it however. I have plenty of other stuff going on that delays just don't really affect me much anyway.

Wait, Do you mean this level of stability and playability? http://www.amazon.com/Fallout-3-Game-Edition-sony-playstation3/product-reviews/B002BXKJ6O/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_three?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addThreeStar&showViewpoints=0

i must be extremely lucky then i never had sutch problems with fallout3 not without and not with the expancions.
maybe its because i have the 60GB version that can play PS2 games, from when the PS3 first was released.

Look at FO3:GOTY, OB:GOTY and now FONV:UE.

Many problems in all of those games, some people can barely start FO3, and you can see how much that corporate position has changed since they released Skyrim (admittedly broken) and FONV:UE more recently: http://youtu.be/e3gWvxHWFuI

They aren't making better for PS3, just that `make -j4 ps3` threw up more compiler errors than they want to deal with atm.

Good question, I wasn't really addressing that in my post. Mostly just speaking to the idea of the PS3 being harder to develop for. (see my original post for links). Your point of if they made it difficult to work on why you have to suffer. Well I guess it's Sony's right to make it as difficult or as easy as they wish. You don't have to suffer, although you've already spent the money on their product. Who knows, it's a svcky situation to be in that's for sure. I love my PS3 for some of my games. I originally bought Skyrim for the Xbox solely on the fact that I had bought Morrowind for it back in the day. I got lucky.


Well looking at the one link I posted, it seems it may help if some of the developers put their heads together and figured out the Sony situation together. I was so excited about having my PS3, but the more I read I'm not so sure. These days, it's just my blu-ray player and Netflix. As for Fable 2, I never noticed any problems with it. I think I bought it when it released but perhaps a month or so later, maybe that's why.

EA doesn't released bugged games? Have you not played Battlefield 3?

And Mass Effect 3 was not free from bugs either. I didn't even play my pre-order because I couldn't import my Shepard's face into the game, and I've read about some people getting their choices imported incorrectly too.

Bethesda is one of the worst developers when it comes to bug fixing, but no one releases bug free games these days. Every gaming company needs to step up their game.

i never played FO:NV.UE but i have FO:NV when it was first released for PS3 and also never had a problem with that one.
but seeing this video makes me think they tryed to make it as buggy as possable.
they should have called it Fallout:World of buggs something

Right now I'm just happy our PC brothers/sister have it now, this is good news, as we surely cannot be too far behind. Either way i'm being patient and re-playing other games to wait I do have 1 question however does anyone know how much it is going to be in Great British Pounds?

it might also be that skyrim works better on the older PS3(the big ones) i never had the lag problem exept if i played for over 10 hours in a row and on a rare occation the game craches but for the rest i only encoutered bugs simular to the xbox360 versions bugs. so i think im incredebly lucky i buyed my PS3 on the release date.
sa for fable2 it was really unplayable for me sometimes i coudnt target enimies or spells that didnt work properly and my XBOX crashed alot on that game.
that game was the whole reason i try to buy most on my games on the PS3 if possable.

I'm guessing you didn't buy Battlefield 3 for the PS3 when it came out.
Pushing your development teams to release a game before your #1 competitor does, is not good company policy.


OnTopic,
As a PS3 owner who has owned Fallout 3, Oblivion and Fallout: New Vegas...can't say I'm surprised.
I've been in love with Bethesda's game design since Morrowind but admittedly their support for the PlayStation has always been a bit iffy.
If they just put as much effort into learning how to develop properly on the PS3, as they did into hyping Skyrim before release...it'd be beautifully smooth.

i think they learned the hyping from microsoft, they always hype up there exclusive games, and usually the hype is bigger than the games deserve.
no wonder Bethesda and Microsoft are best friends, they are so mutch allike.

Well, with ALL the money they've made from 'Skyrim' maybe Bethesda can now actually hire PS3 programmers.

So no Dawnguard at all? Or are they actually trying to get it to work for PS3?

they probably wont i think next game they release wont be comming to the PS3 nobody is stupid enough to fall for it again.
the only way they can even sell a other game to any PS3 player is if they make it a PS3 exclusive.
because thats the only way they can ever prove they dont have anything against the PS3, and are willing to learn to program for it in stead of making exusses.