[Amy Gibson]

Everyone needs to be civil about this subject. While it's perfectly fine to have a negative opinion about the lack of a solid release date, there is a way to express yourself in a civil and mature way. We do not want to see immature hostile posts

It has been http://www.bethblog.com/2012/08/02/dawnguard-ps3-update/ that the PS3 version will be delayed a bit as they are still working to ensure acceptable performance on the platform.
Also we now have the news that the https://twitter.com/elderscrolls/status/239177833199583235 so hopefully Dawnguard for the PS3 is closer. (**Now released**)



http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1406276-ps3-release-for-dawnguard-thread-9/

[Jason King]

trolololo xbox is getting hearthfire soon and we're not even on dawnguard

[Avril Louise]

I want to do dlc least half of the month and still might come something new Enlarge map

[Vicky Keeler]

Everyone needs to be civil about this subject. While it's perfectly fine to have a negative opinion about the lack of a solid release date, there is a way to express yourself in a civil and mature way. We do not want to see immature hostile posts

It has been http://www.bethblog.com/2012/08/02/dawnguard-ps3-update/ that the PS3 version will be delayed a bit as they are still working to ensure acceptable performance on the platform.
Also we now have the news that the https://twitter.com/elderscrolls/status/239177833199583235 so hopefully Dawnguard for the PS3 is closer. (**Now released**)



http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1406276-ps3-release-for-dawnguard-thread-9/

This seems at least a bit misleading to me. You portray it as if Beth has made some delivery date, or even assured the PS3 user that DG will be available for the PS3. But from their blog post I glean nothing of the sort.

In fact, it reads more to me like "the game is so borked on your platform its not fiscally viable for us to continue supporting it."

[Vicki Gunn]

Everyone needs to be civil about this subject. While it's perfectly fine to have a negative opinion about the lack of a solid release date, there is a way to express yourself in a civil and mature way. We do not want to see immature hostile posts

It has been http://www.bethblog.com/2012/08/02/dawnguard-ps3-update/ that the PS3 version will be delayed a bit as they are still working to ensure acceptable performance on the platform.
Also we now have the news that the https://twitter.com/elderscrolls/status/239177833199583235 so hopefully Dawnguard for the PS3 is closer. (**Now released**)



http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1406276-ps3-release-for-dawnguard-thread-9/

Any NEW information about where they are at or what they are trying to fix still?

[Kelly Tomlinson]

I just find it really funny that there was beta testing for the xbox version, but no beta for the version they're actually having such major problems with.

I really had no issues at all with my PS3 copy of Skyrim and I'd been playing it non-stop since launch. And when I did encounter small problems it was after the patches came out. I would think the devs would want to see how it plays with people who didn't have backwards flying dragons, lag, or whatever the major issues some people were having.

Just really getting tired of waiting to play this on my preferred console. I had thought about trading in my PS3 copy for an xbox copy, but decided against it since the PS3 is my preferred system. I haven't actually turned on my xbox in months, but with hearthfire coming out I'm rethinking again about switching. For me it also comes down to the cost of switching. I paid $59.99 plus $7.99 shipping for my copy of Skyrim, to trade in for the xbox version now would cost me the loss of my PS3 copy, plus paying the difference on the trade to get the xbox copy. It just seems stupid for me to pay double just to fork over even more for DLC, to play on a system I don't care for.

Just do something already Bethesda, give us some news, tell us it's cancelled so we can move on.

[Tammie Flint]

I'm curious... What does it mean "acceptable" performance??? "Acceptable" as in 11.11.11. release "acceptable"? If that's your idea of acceptable then you should price the DLC at $5 considering the 107,355,204,573 bugs and performance issues this game have. Or at least advertise it as an extremely inferior game. Then only stupid buyers will have only themselves to blame. Do PS3 players a favor: Make Dawnguard perform as perfect as possible, otherwise don't release this piece of malware on PS3 users. They don't deserve it. "Acceptable" sounds like an insult. "How was dinner?. It was "acceptable"" How's the car running on the highway?" Meh, Its acceptable" See what I mean.

[Alister Scott]

Any NEW information about where they are at or what they are trying to fix still?

No, sorry. We (the moderators) have no more information than you guys.

[Mélida Brunet]

Any NEW information about where they are at or what they are trying to fix still?

I would rather to know if they are still trying to fix anything on the PS3.

the 96 day delay for 1.6, and the state it has arrived in, does not engender much hope for the future here.

[Sophh]

what upsets me even more is hearthfire is the dlc i have always wanted except with a castle and guards but whatever. i think i will never see it you know at this rate i think i'll just buy the Goty edition its going to take that long for us to get the dlc anyway.

[Robert Jr]

what upsets me even more is hearthfire is the dlc i have always wanted except with a castle and guards but whatever. i think i will never see it you know at this rate i think i'll just buy the Goty edition its going to take that long for us to get the dlc anyway.

well go ask the poor saps who bought FONV:UE how that is working out... http://youtu.be/e3gWvxHWFuI

[Jessica Stokes]

well go ask the poor saps who bought FONV:UE how that is working out... http://youtu.be/e3gWvxHWFuI

this is what scares me the most this is bethesda's previous work (fallout 3 goty was the same) now if they are not satisfied with the game now it must be worse than this which is really scary

[Sxc-Mary]

Wow, so xbox gets another dlc next week? Im actually starting to feel cheated here. Not cool. I supported Beth for so long and have stood up for them during this whole DG thing, but now we're 2 dlc's behind? Thats really lame. Very dissapointed in Bethesda. I think the threats of people saying they wont buy any Skyrim dlcs or any beth product in general may actually to start having weight behind them. I think PS3 users should dissapear from these boards and then when/if DG ever comes out we can be like, "huh? Wuh? Dawnguard? Oh right, Skyrim dlc right? Meh, im not happy with bethesda's performance on the PS3 yet, I think Ill wait for an undeterminded amout of time before I consider buying DG. So hang tight, and Ill get back to ya...". *never gets back to them*

Yeah, thats what should happen.

[FirDaus LOVe farhana]

What I am wondering is the most important thing, what is going to happen in the future regarding Beth & PS3 Users. I mean, will people forget this ever happened and continue buying everything Beth gives us? Will Beth ever apologize and dare to say they are having problems coding for the PS3? Will they put someone else in charge for future games regarding the PS3 console or fix it again with patch after patch after patch.

Again, I LOVE the games no question about it even with all the bugs, glitches and more, but this is not normal anymore. The biggest disappointment to me is the fact that Beth doesn't apologize, that they don't give us specific information like "We are halfway done" or "working on this and this because...". No it's just no information or something round the bush like "We have problems, so we will fix them". How long? What problems? How much have you already done? Will it happen again?

Lastly regarding future games from Bethesda, I know they will have bugs and glithes again, wich is sad, a company that's known for technical problems with every product should do something about. But I don't know if I will be treated with respect in the future, who says it's not going to happen again...that's what botters me the most.

[kirsty joanne hines]

well go ask the poor saps who bought FONV:UE how that is working out... http://youtu.be/e3gWvxHWFuI

OMG, that is atrocious beyond.....i just don't know.

[Danel]

this is what scares me the most this is bethesda's previous work (fallout 3 goty was the same) now if they are not satisfied with the game now it must be worse than this which is really scary

yeah, basically they sold us a broken product.

Then promised fixes were coming and then delayed until (suspiciously) just over 90 days from release to give us their 'Magnum Opus' patch. (So after 90 days how easy is it to return items?)

Then we got one more, that BROKE the game (water freezing) and they never addressed it. Think about that for a minute, there were probably thousands of customers with a product utterly broken and perhaps no idea about how to fix it (it was a ps3 user who posted the fix in the forums) and Bethesda did absolutely NOTHING to help its customers. No hotfix, no subsequent patch to ensure playability - just stone silence.

So then they announced patch 1.6 for all platforms. But then it only came to two of the platforms. And the PS3 got dead silence for over two months. We watched DG come and go with basically nothing more than a few thinly veiled insults or patronizing remarks from GStaff.

To me, it seems clear. The product on PS3 is broken and they have just been monkey patching it enough to keep the media at bay. Now DG adds too many new animations so their 'all new engine' simply can not handle it anymore.

If you remember OB was ported by 4j studios, and Beth couldn't apply all the DLCs to the PS3 version. This problem is probably similar in scope - it would have required some engine level changes that should have been considered two or three years ago and simply can't be merged into the mainline engine code now.

[dean Cutler]

OMG, that is atrocious beyond.....i just don't know.

Yeah, and think about this - they released that AFTER SkyLag was well publicized. If you look over in the FONV forums there is plenty feedback about how borked that game is even with single pieces of DLC.

They simply do not care.

[Brooke Turner]

If you remember OB was ported by 4j studios, and Beth couldn't apply all the DLCs to the PS3 version. This problem is probably similar in scope - it would have required some engine level changes that should have been considered two or three years ago and simply can't be merged into the mainline engine code now.

no actually 4j did a great job i never had lag, and encountered less than a handful of freezes with oblivion, the reason the dlcs didn't release was because Microsoft had exclusivity for the dlcs not because of it not being playable

[Nicholas]

What makes me upset is that Bethesda is already talking about the release date for the next dlc for xbox and they just keep telling ps3 users that we still are not happy with dawnguards performance on ps3. They could at least set down a time frame, but no they just keep playing favorites with xbox. Its just like oblivion the ps3 users get the shaft. I pre-ordered Skyrim and waited out in the cold when it was released at mid-night. I just don't understand why Bethesda is doing this again. I know they like money and I guarantee that they would make a profit off of ps3 users. To be honest though I wouldn't be upset nearly as much if they would just tell us that we are definitely going to get both dlcs it will just take some more time and give us a time frame nothing set in stone just a realistic outlook on how long it might take.

[Ernesto Salinas]

Okay, I've come up with a theory as to why Dawnguard has yet to be released on the PS3. It's Hearthfire, and by that I don't mean its because they are focused on its release. Let's say that Bethesda's programmers have been testing the stability and performance of Dawnguard and Hearthfire on the PS3 simultaneously and have found some sort of problem that causes the game to destabilize when both DLC's are installed. Now, let's also say that they plan to release Dawnguard and Hearthfire together on the PS3 after the 30-day exclusitivity thing is up (I know it's a long shot but go with me on this), but they want to make sure the two can be installed on the PS3 without causing Skyrim game data to collapse from some sort of huge incompatibility error that destabilizes the game when both DLC's are installed, hence the delay. I know a lot of you will probably think I'm daft for even thinking this, but I just thought I would throw it out there as a possibility.

[Silvia Gil]

Sounds like a nice theory and I hope your right but I have my doubts.

[Robert]

well go ask the poor saps who bought FONV:UE how that is working out... http://youtu.be/e3gWvxHWFuI

Now THAT is a perfect example of state-of-the-art game design. With each button press you are awarded with a small break to grab another beer, soda, or even a few snacks. Bethesda definitely knows what they're doing here guys. I can't wait to play my version of The Waiting Game (God forbid) when DG gets released.




My heart....

It's breaking.......

I'm starting to have night terrors about DG, like last night I dream't that they were going to release DG next spring as a PS3 Exclusive SEQUEL to Skyrim. Full priced... The horror...

[kitten maciver]

Okay, I've come up with a theory as to why Dawnguard has yet to be released on the PS3. It's Hearthfire, and by that I don't mean its because they are focused on its release. Let's say that Bethesda's programmers have been testing the stability and performance of Dawnguard and Hearthfire on the PS3 simultaneously and have found some sort of problem that causes the game to destabilize when both DLC's are installed. Now, let's also say that they plan to release Dawnguard and Hearthfire together on the PS3 after the 30-day exclusitivity thing is up (I know it's a long shot but go with me on this), but they want to make sure the two can be installed on the PS3 without causing Skyrim game data to collapse from some sort of huge incompatibility error that destabilizes the game when both DLC's are installed, hence the delay. I know a lot of you will probably think I'm daft for even thinking this, but I just thought I would throw it out there as a possibility.

Interesting theory. Now while i don't think you are daft, i do think you are giving Bethesda a benefit of the doubt that they as a company do not warrant atm.

This is what i gave as my theory on the whole DG scenario as a reply elsewhere

Been thinking about it on and off since all this really started off into realms insane; and at this point i'm thinking Bethesda never even started on a PS3 version of Dawnguard until after the initial xbox exclusivity period ended. Its just the only thing that makes sense to me about this fiasco.

Way i'm guessing(guessing as no one knows) it went down:

1) Start work on dlc.

2) Contacted by Microsoft about deal and GIVEN a release date they have to meet.

3) Met release date by scrapping work on other platforms for the time being and rushing out a barely playable xbox 360 version.

4) Figure(wrongly) that they could quickly port to PC and PS3, as evidenced by even the PC version seems to have been a chore for them.

a) Prolly only ever started with porting the PC version near the end of that 30 day 360 period.

b)PS3 version prolly never even had any work done on it until the PC version was 'ready' for release.

5) Higher-ups prolly have said to try and make something happen with a PS3 version of the dlc, but that if/when other projects begin to pickup shelving the PS3 content is ok to be shelved for a future collection release.

That's my take on all this anyways.

This current(and as has been noted by others quick) official announcement of Hearthfire is prolly the result of that coder fella who spilled the beans a little ways back and they are trying to capitalize on on the free press from his spoilers. Speaking at the fact that Hearthfire is in ANY shape to be released in a week is telling as well.

Hines said on his feed that the Heartfire team is separate from the Dawnguard team and that they in fact have multiple teams working on various projects. Which is all well and good. But from a business pov(at least a pov that has trying to salvage anything from a serious misstep as a priority) would it not have made more sense to grab bodies from as many other teams as possible to try and bang out w/e the heck is wrong with DG on PS3 asap?

Anyways, back to watching this....whatever you want to call it, as it continues to play itself off.

[Cheville Thompson]

I find it hard that a so called proffesional developers can't code a console that has been out for years. We're not talking about some amateurs at home trying to code this but so called proffesionals. I'm still angry at the fact that they sold out to MS in the 1st place. I have my reasons as to why they did it, which says to me PS3 consumers are 2nd class citizens in the eyes of this company.

They only way we can make this company take notice is by keeping our money in our pockets cause we'll get no support from the media in the gaming industry as most if not all are bought and paid by the industry. How often are developers/publishers held to account for releasing bad and I mean really bad products?

[Britney Lopez]

I find it hard that a so called proffesional developers can't code a console that has been out for years. We're not talking about some amateurs at home trying to code this but so called proffesionals. I'm still angry at the fact that they sold out to MS in the 1st place. I have my reasons as to why they did it, which says to me PS3 consumers are 2nd class citizens in the eyes of this company.

They only way we can make this company take notice is by keeping our money in our pockets cause we'll get no support from the media in the gaming industry as most if not all are bought and paid by the industry. How often are developers/publishers held to account for releasing bad and I mean really bad products?

This is exactly why I think modders from the pc versions of games should be making the games instead of the actual developers. I bet they could turn out a perfectly running copy for all systems. Hell, a friend lent me his Skyrim for the pc and aside from the fact I get a blazing single-digit fps rate, the mods I threw on there worked better then the majority of things in the vanilla game. Even whole new mechanics work better. What are their developer qualifications over at Beth? Ex-Microsoft programmer?