[Dona BlackHeart]

You know, a thought just occurred to me. What if all this "We're not sure this is a problem we can solve," stuff is just a front? Make people think things are all bleak and doom and gloom and then "Ta-daa!!! We miraculously solved the problem!"

Kind of the reverse of the Dawnguard Beta for the 360, where they tried to convince people the game wasn't going to released in a hyper-bugged state by making us think that they'd have people Beta test things and the bugs they found would be fixed. Instead, they tell us it's hyper buggy and they aren't sure they can solve things to make people lose hope, and then announce they solved everything so that everyone rushes out and buys it as soon as they can, so excited by the release they fail to investigate to see whether or not Bethesda actually fixed anything.

Just a thought.

[Alisha Clarke]

As a software developer myself, I find it incredulous that they should blame the Sony hardware. The issue is with the game engine or their inept developers. A bad workman always blames his tools, and this is such a case.

But besides that, the real issue is with their communication (or severe lack of it) to the PS3 community.

We perceive that Bethesda, rightly or wrongly, has a total disregard and disrespect for PS3 user base. Unfortunately perception often morphs into truth.

We are also fickle, fix the issues and we'll forgive them.

As a loyal customer since the initial release of Morrowind, as a PC games and now a PS3 gamer I was looking forward to the DLCs and also Dishonored. I will now not be purchasing any further titles, not until they fix Skyrim, but until they change their attitude to me as a customer.

Gamers are loyal to their chosen gaming platform. You insult the platform, you insult them personally. Again, a perception, but people's perception is their reality.

[Jamie Moysey]

You know, a thought just occurred to me. What if all this "We're not sure this is a problem we can solve," stuff is just a front? Make people think things are all bleak and doom and gloom and then "Ta-daa!!! We miraculously solved the problem!"

Kind of the reverse of the Dawnguard Beta for the 360, where they tried to convince people the game wasn't going to released in a hyper-bugged state by making us think that they'd have people Beta test things and the bugs they found would be fixed. Instead, they tell us it's hyper buggy and they aren't sure they can solve things to make people lose hope, and then announce they solved everything so that everyone rushes out and buys it as soon as they can, so excited by the release they fail to investigate to see whether or not Bethesda actually fixed anything.

Just a thought.

I believe it's a front also but different outcome cause I think they did this so they can "well we tryed tough" and hearthfire will fall into the same problems and on and on until the GOTY were everything now works but didn't in the time poeple really wanted. But your seems more likely cause Beth are really greedy and will do anything for a quick buck.

[Jason Rice]

As a software developer myself, I find it incredulous that they should blame the Sony hardware. The issue is with the game engine or their inept developers. A bad workman always blames his tools, and this is such a case.

But besides that, the real issue is with their communication (or severe lack of it) to the PS3 community.

We perceive that Bethesda, rightly or wrongly, has a total disregard and disrespect for PS3 user base. Unfortunately perception often morphs into truth.

We are also fickle, fix the issues and we'll forgive them.

As a loyal customer since the initial release of Morrowind, as a PC games and now a PS3 gamer I was looking forward to the DLCs and also Dishonored. I will now not be purchasing any further titles, not until they fix Skyrim, but until they change their attitude to me as a customer.

Gamers are loyal to their chosen gaming platform. You insult the platform, you insult them personally. Again, a perception, but people's perception is their reality.

Could not have said that better myself

[Spaceman]

As a software developer myself, I find it incredulous that they should blame the Sony hardware. The issue is with the game engine or their inept developers. A bad workman always blames his tools, and this is such a case.

But besides that, the real issue is with their communication (or severe lack of it) to the PS3 community.

We perceive that Bethesda, rightly or wrongly, has a total disregard and disrespect for PS3 user base. Unfortunately perception often morphs into truth.

We are also fickle, fix the issues and we'll forgive them.

As a loyal customer since the initial release of Morrowind, as a PC games and now a PS3 gamer I was looking forward to the DLCs and also Dishonored. I will now not be purchasing any further titles, not until they fix Skyrim, but until they change their attitude to me as a customer.

Gamers are loyal to their chosen gaming platform. You insult the platform, you insult them personally. Again, a perception, but people's perception is their reality.

^ This *Claps* well said.

[BaNK.RoLL]

As a software developer myself, I find it incredulous that they should blame the Sony hardware. The issue is with the game engine or their inept developers. A bad workman always blames his tools, and this is such a case.

But besides that, the real issue is with their communication (or severe lack of it) to the PS3 community.

We perceive that Bethesda, rightly or wrongly, has a total disregard and disrespect for PS3 user base. Unfortunately perception often morphs into truth.

We are also fickle, fix the issues and we'll forgive them.

As a loyal customer since the initial release of Morrowind, as a PC games and now a PS3 gamer I was looking forward to the DLCs and also Dishonored. I will now not be purchasing any further titles, not until they fix Skyrim, but until they change their attitude to me as a customer.

Gamers are loyal to their chosen gaming platform. You insult the platform, you insult them personally. Again, a perception, but people's perception is their reality.

This. Very well said brother.

[Taylrea Teodor]

So, it appears that the fate of Dawnguard on PS3 is currently up in the air. There is some reason to hope though – when asked on Twitter if the expansion was playable in its current state on PS3, Bethesda VP of PR and marketing Pete Hines https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/241339333402054656 by saying “Yes, it’s just doesn’t http://www.slashgear.com/dawnguard-ps3-may-not-see-release-as-problems-persist-31245504/# well in all scenarios. Some folks would be fine, some would not.” He followed up by pointing out that “every save game is different.” That’s been a big problem for Bethesda on PS3, so it isn’t a surprise that the studio is going through it again with Dawnguard.
Perhaps Bethesda will still get all of the kinks worked out? That’s what a lot of people are hoping for, but the studio has been trying to fix the PS3 version of Dawnguard for a number of weeks now, so things are starting to look a little bleak. Stay tuned to SlashGear for more information, as we’ll have it for you once Bethesda gives more http://www.slashgear.com/dawnguard-ps3-may-not-see-release-as-problems-persist-31245504/# on the situation. i c where this is heading i just got this info if you have not seen it yet.

[Mizz.Jayy]

Sorry but for me personally...this is the last straw for me with Bethesda. Between Fallout 3 (that I still can't get to work), Skyrim, and Oblivion I'm pretty tired of playing games that don't work. At this point I won't be buying anything Bethesda is even remotely involved in. I wouldn't beta test their crappy MMO if they paid me. I certainly won't buy it. I won't be buying Dishonored or the next crappy TES game. On the off chance Sony is able to pull Bethesda's head out of their collective a$$es and they get Dawnguard and Hearthfire fixed I won't be buying that either.

Its not the fact that Dawnguard and Hearthfire isn't coming out for the PS3. Its the fact that they kept us in the dark for SO long. I am willing to bet that the only reason we aren't still in the dark about it is that they decided to go to Sony for help. Can you imagine the outrage from the PS3 base if Sony had reported this fact first and not Bethesda? Thats the only reason we know anything.

[Jerry Cox]

They must think we are masochists or something. We can't literally keep being the third wheel when it comes to releasing dlc for their major published game. 30 day exclusivity cool I can wait, but 2 months...I can't even begin to imagine what they are thinking when they even begin to think about ps3 dlc. They must giggle every time ps3 and dlc are ever mentioned in the same breath. I had to wait for the goty version of fo3, and we all know how pathetic that game was. I just pray that if they release dlc for skyrim on the ps3 and it has to be bundled in goty version. That hopefully they don't make us wait in disappointment to receive a product that will leave us feeling in a similar manner. If they manage to make dawnguard playable I will buy it, but it's the last beth product for the ps3 I buy on release day.

[Facebook me]

I sincerely hope that Bethesda is embarrassed.

[GPMG]

So, it appears that the fate of Dawnguard on PS3 is currently up in the air. There is some reason to hope though – when asked on Twitter if the expansion was playable in its current state on PS3, Bethesda VP of PR and marketing Pete Hines https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/241339333402054656 by saying “Yes, it’s just doesn’t http://www.slashgear.com/dawnguard-ps3-may-not-see-release-as-problems-persist-31245504/# well in all scenarios. Some folks would be fine, some would not.” He followed up by pointing out that “every save game is different.” That’s been a big problem for Bethesda on PS3, so it isn’t a surprise that the studio is going through it again with Dawnguard.
Perhaps Bethesda will still get all of the kinks worked out? That’s what a lot of people are hoping for, but the studio has been trying to fix the PS3 version of Dawnguard for a number of weeks now, so things are starting to look a little bleak. Stay tuned to SlashGear for more information, as we’ll have it for you once Bethesda gives more http://www.slashgear.com/dawnguard-ps3-may-not-see-release-as-problems-persist-31245504/# on the situation. i c where this is heading i just got this info if you have not seen it yet.

Apart from that, he confirmed, that they're working with sony to resolve their problems.

[Heather Kush]

Apart from that, he confirmed, that they're working with sony to resolve their problems.

I would be very suprise if they really did call Sony to help. I said this yestarday that we should ask Sony if any of this is true cause until all DLC is deliverd and the game is fully fix on the PS3 then I wont believe another word that comes out of Beths mouth.

[amhain]

I would be very suprise if they really did call Sony to help. I said this yestarday that we should ask Sony if any of this is true cause until all DLC is deliverd and the game is fully fix on the PS3 then I wont believe another word that comes out of Beths mouth.

I agree with you. From what I read the update said they were working with Sony to release the DLC, they never said Sony was helping to fix the DLC. After all, that isn't really their job is it. And since Sony aren't going to change the hardware what possible input could they have on the fixing of the DLC? Maybe they sent the DLC to Sony to be evaluated for release but it was rejected... just speculation. I think the update was worded quite carefully though.

[Makenna Nomad]

I agree with you. From what I read the update said they were working with Sony to release the DLC, they never said Sony was helping to fix the DLC. After all, that isn't really their job is it. And since Sony aren't going to change the hardware what possible input could they have on the fixing of the DLC? Maybe they sent the DLC to Sony to be evaluated for release but it was rejected... just speculation. I think the update was worded quite carefully though.

Yup Sony has nothing to do with the fixing of the DLC the only thing Sony does is make sure it doesn't blow up their console.

[I’m my own]

I just want proof they care about their ps3 fans.I want answers not just about this dawnguard bit, but about their neglect towards us on.other games. I want to know why they have this behavior with us. I want to know why they barely communicate. Look if they just apologize for how they treat us, i think i would actually be fine with.this fiasco.

[louise tagg]

I just want proof they care about their ps3 fans.I want answers not just about this dawnguard bit, but about their neglect towards us on.other games. I want to know why they have this behavior with us. I want to know why they barely communicate. Look if they just apologize for how they treat us, i think i would actually be fine with.this fiasco.

You know looking at all the updates we get from Beth about our problems, I can't remember ever reading a sorry in one of them like there is none, I second on what you say and more I want to know why they planned on treat us like [censored] right form the begening and not once just once say "we're sorry" about the way they treat us and if anyone think there worth defending well be prepared because once Beth is finish with us your next for to get [censored] by them.

[Lady Shocka]

Skyrim Thought of brilliantly but poorly executed

[James Potter]

You know looking at all the updates we get from Beth about our problems, I can't remember ever reading a sorry in one of them like there is none, I second on what you say and more I want to know why they planned on treat us like [censored] right form the begening and not once just once say "we're sorry" about the way they treat us and if anyone think there worth defending well be prepared because once Beth is finish with us your next for to get [censored] by them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDqatJPvOfk is what Bethesda should do. Todd Howard should come out and do that, I would laugh my ass off.

[Sandeep Khatkar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDqatJPvOfk is what Bethesda should do. Todd Howard should come out and do that, I would laugh my ass off.

Lol yes he sould do just that but didn't you know sorry is bad word to Beth, heck am suprise it's not censored.

[Jonathan Montero]

We have to keep waiting for Dawnguard, even when one month has already passed and the question is now becoming "Willt it come to PS3" instead of "When will it come to PS3".

Fortunately I have some very good news, not about Skyrim, not about Dawnguard, but about a perfect game that's on it's way to all consoles: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes (Open World by the way!). You can watch the full 10 minute demo here, enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5IVOs5Pxh8

[Andrew Lang]

We have to keep waiting for Dawnguard, even when one month has already passed and the question is now becoming "Willt it come to PS3" instead of "When will it come to PS3".

Fortunately I have some very good news, not about Skyrim, not about Dawnguard, but about a perfect game that's on it's way to all consoles: Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes (Open World by the way!). You can watch the full 10 minute demo here, enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5IVOs5Pxh8

my inner MGS fan--boy expolde with sheer joy when I saw that.

[Shannon Lockwood]

my inner MGS fan--boy expolde with sheer joy when I saw that.

Same

[Siobhan Thompson]

I still play consoles quite regularly, so I have a right to have a discussion, and I'm just trying to bring some order to these threads, some outside view not completely blinded by their fandoms.

I think logically and realistically, and to be fair I was quite the PS3 really devoted fan at one point, and one day I just put one and one together, I think it might have been the day the security disaster happened, guess that was the last straw, was pretty much done with the PS3, and now that i think back it was quite a bad experience to be perfectly honest, the UI, the amount of fence you have to go through to do simple things, it's just added frustration that I didn't need.

No I think my word of insult is just right. Telling poeple they should have bought another console just because you, you yourself find it better and they may not(for the reason stated above) and because one certian game out of many doesn't work for thier console when it's not thier fualt it doesn't work on thier console. I am not trying to provoke anything but I am question you now on why a more PC gamer is in a PS3 thread.

Um, ladies and gentlemen, this is a thread about Dawnguard release for PS3 if you want to debate the "greater system" or the "who insulted who" please take it private or at least somewhere else, i dont want to look through your arguments to find the posts relevent to the topic.

[Dalton Greynolds]

Um, ladies and gentlemen, this is a thread about Dawnguard release for PS3 if you want to debate the "greater system" or the "who insulted who" please take it private or at least somewhere else, i dont want to look through your arguments to find the posts relevent to the topic.

Sorry.

[Khamaji Taylor]

So I just did it, just traded my copy of skyrim ps3 for skyrim 360. Was really sad to do it since I really never experienced any game breaking glitches and spent so much time since november on my characters. But so disheartened by bethesda's treatment of us ps3 owners, plus a really good trade in bonus and a 20% off a used game coupon, I just gave in and gave up on the ps3's horrible support.