PS3 Release for Dawnguard - Thread #15

Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:16 am

Exactly this. Precisely this. In fact Mr. Snake-Eye-Mitch, You sir are a genius. Snake-Eye for president... of Bethesda :smile:

The issue never has been and never will be the memory on the PS3. Why? Because that memory has not changed since 2006. That's right. 6 years ago. The RAM has been the same since then. It isn't like these tech specs just became public knowledge.

I was talking to a buddy of mine, who indecently, is into game development. He was saying the same thing I have been saying. If Bethesda took seriously the power of the PS3, and designed an engine specifically for the system, we'd see a Skyrim better than the Xbox could ever produce. The blu ray disc can hold more information, and if used effectively, can process information faster than the Xbox. If you don't believe me, look it up. That is just raw data.

The fact of the matter is, Beth designed an engine around 1 set of consoles, which makes good economic sense, but then used digital duct tape to make that same engine work on the PS3. Now the engine is more duct tape than engine, and they are out of duct tape.

Really, it was only a matter of time.

In order to get DG and future DLC to the system, they will have to completely redesign their engine. Something, they cannot accomplish without re-releasing the game.

Still crossing my fingers that the Sony Coding Ninjas can think up a few ways to make it work.

Bethesda will never build a game engine around the PS3, secondly Sony got its rear chewed by developers for the lack of memory they gave PS3. PS3 may be a great machine but in the right conditions even it can choke which is what is happening right now, Multiply platform developers won't waste money building game engine's that suit the PS3, either it runs with the game engine they throw at it or nothing at all.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:15 am

Bethesda will never build a game engine around the PS3, secondly Sony got its rear chewed by developers for the lack of memory they gave PS3. PS3 may be a great machine but in the right conditions even it can choke which is what is happening right now, Multiply platform developers won't waste money building game engine's that suit the PS3 the machine, either it runs with the game engine they throw at it or nothing at all.

:wallbash: Then don't make the game for that certian platforum at all if the engine doesn't work for it!!!! This is common business sense. Beth got greedy and lied to get thier money and every other Dev has no problems with the momory with the PS3 only Beth and don't say because Skyrim is so big there are other games that are massive if not even bigger than Skyrim and yet they have no problems, this problem with Skyrim is all on Beths sloppy coding nothing more nothing less.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:24 am

I know it is extremely frustrating that we had to wait this long. Especially with the lack of updates. However, they are working as hard as they can to bring the DLC to us ASAP. I have faith in Beth, i really do. Yes, it is unfortunate that it is taking so long. Just be glad that they are working to bring it to us. :) We have waited this long....whats another couple of weeks...or even a month? Maybe they will release Dawnguard IF and when they release Hearthfire for PS3....2 DLC for 1 price...and i can see them doing that for sure.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:20 am

I know it is extremely frustrating that we had to wait this long. Especially with the lack of updates. However, they are working as hard as they can to bring the DLC to us ASAP. I have faith in Beth, i really do. Yes, it is unfortunate that it is taking so long. Just be glad that they are working to bring it to us. :smile: We have waited this long....whats another couple of weeks...or even a month? Maybe they will release Dawnguard IF and when they release Hearthfire for PS3....2 DLC for 1 price...and i can see them doing that for sure.


What would you say if Bugthesda said that none of the DLC's would be released? I'm certain that announcement will come someday so I'm prepared for the worst.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:06 pm

What would you say if Bugthesda said that none of the DLC's would be released? I'm certain that announcement will come someday so I'm prepared for the worst.
I will worry about that when the day comes. Until it does...there is no reason to think about that. They told us they are working on it...and thats all i'm worring about.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:57 am

Hearthfire hits 360 today....maybe they will give us another update on Dawnguard.

referred to xbox 360 or ps3?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:37 am

referred to xbox 360 or ps3?
Hearthfire is live on XBOX 360 today.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:41 am

:wallbash: Then don't make the game for that certian platforum at all if the engine doesn't work for it!!!! This is common business sense. Beth got greedy and lied to get thier money and every other Dev has no problems with the momory with the PS3 only Beth and don't say because Skyrim is so big there are other games that are massive if not even bigger than Skyrim and yet they have no problems, this problem with Skyrim is all on Beths sloppy coding nothing more nothing less.

Pfft would never say Skyrim is to big for PS3 that would be a lie, machine's ram is just choking on all the information it's getting hit with. As for coding you can only change things so much before you stuck with one option rewrite the entire game as someone here already pointed out.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:18 am

Hearthfire is live on XBOX 360 today.

I think he means an update on DG for Xbox or PS3.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:22 am

Bethesda will never build a game engine around the PS3, secondly Sony got its rear chewed by developers for the lack of memory they gave PS3. PS3 may be a great machine but in the right conditions even it can choke which is what is happening right now, Multiply platform developers won't waste money building game engine's that suit the PS3, either it runs with the game engine they throw at it or nothing at all.

Variation on old excuse is still old.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:07 pm

Pfft would never say Skyrim is to big for PS3 that would be a lie, machine's ram is just choking on all the information it's getting hit with. As for coding you can only change things so much before stuck with one option rewrite the entire game as someone here already pointed out.

Like it has been said in earlier posts the engine Skyrim runs on was made for the Xbox. Now if you're not going to rewrite that engine for the PS3 then don't make games for the PS3 simple.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:15 am

Variation on old excuse is still old.

What excuse you clearly don't understand my post.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:22 am

Like it has been said in earlier posts the engine Skyrim runs on was made for the Xbox. Now if you're not going to rewrite that engine for the PS3 then don't make games for the PS3 simple.
I agree
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:43 am

I can TASTE dawnguard it is sooo close.....I am so excited....i just know its coming out soon.....i cant wait to finally read that good news......Just keep patient all. :)
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:58 am

I can TASTE dawnguard it is sooo close.....I am so excited....i just know its coming out soon.....i cant wait to finally read that good news......Just keep patient all. :smile:

I hope you don't take offence to this but do you happen to have Manic in you at all cause you're really happy and really jumpy.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:15 am

Like it has been said in earlier posts the engine Skyrim runs on was made for the Xbox. Now if you're not going to rewrite that engine for the PS3 then don't make games for the PS3 simple.

No Developer that makes multi platforms rewrites the game engine for the ps3, their games even if they are the size of Skyrim, simply are not throwing as much data at the system memory as Skyrim does. Size of the game is not the issue its how much information the game is throwing at the machines system memory
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:03 am

Storm is just a happy person who always thinks positive despite the let downs. Storm will be saying its coming soon right up till 2020 lol.. Only kidding storm :smile:
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:13 am

Storm is just a happy person who always thinks positive despite the let downs. Storm will be saying its coming soon right up till 2020 lol.. Only kidding storm :smile:
I am just going by facts. Fact- Beth says they are working on it. Anyone who says "its not coming out" is nothing more than a conspiracy theory. there is no reason to believe anything else. Until they say its not coming out....i believe it is.
I hope you don't take offence to this but do you happen to have Manic in you at all cause you're really happy and really jumpy.

I have ADD...lol. No i am not manic...i am hopeful...and i think a little optimism in this forum can go a long way. I just dont want people to be all depressed....just be patient.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:26 pm

No Developer that makes multi platforms rewrites the game engine for the ps3, their games even if they are the size of Skyrim simply are not throwing as much data at the system memory as Skyrim does. Size of the game is not the issue its how much information the game is throwing at the machine.

Me and you can agree size does not matter in the game and what does is how much information and resources the game throws and needs from the system to operate on it. Now because that's the case do you know that Oblivion has much more information than that of Skyrim, Skyrim maybe more pretty but Oblvion got the most stuff. Now 4J studios got Oblivion working for the PS3 and yet Skyrim doesn't when Beth trys it. Why? Well because Beth didn't listen to 4J when they said to rewrite thier engine if they want to work with the PS3, Beth not listening to them is a result of the mess we see in Skyrim.

Now other Devs multi-platforum games have engines that is working with the PS3, Xbox and PC that's is why no other Dev is faceing the same problems that Skyrim is suffering. Beths engine was made mainly for Xbox that is why that is the platforum with the least amount of bug among the three platforums. The PC follows second because the Xbox and PC are so similer. The PS3 is the worst because it is completely different from both Xbox and PC.

See all Beths fualt for being lazy.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:07 pm

I am just going by facts. Fact- Beth says they are working on it. Anyone who says "its not coming out" is nothing more than a conspiracy theory. there is no reason to believe anything else. Until they say its not coming out....i believe it is.


I have ADD...lol. No i am not manic...i am hopeful...and i think a little optimism in this forum can go a long way. I just dont want people to be all depressed....just be patient.

Ok just checking, was worried about you that's all. :)
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:44 am

What excuse you clearly don't understand my post.

Doing a direct port from an Xbox 360 to a PS3 is is possible, but the result is never good. If Bethesda wants to say they are multi-platform game devs, then they need to BE multi-platform game dev. And that means they need to rework code for the PS3 while porting.

Implying that its somehow Sony's fault that Beth. cant optimize code on its 6 yr old system is the old argument. And its getting older all the time; but no more correct.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:39 pm

I have ADD...lol. No i am not manic...i am hopeful...and i think a little optimism in this forum can go a long way. I just dont want people to be all depressed....just be patient.
This. I agree that instead of being depressing and angry at Beth, we should have a bit more optimism. Complaining about things isn't gonna make them release the DLC any faster. All we can do is wait.
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Post » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:07 pm

I could take my PS3 version being the worst of the three. What still leaves a bad taste in my mouth was Pete Hines boasting about how the PS3 version was identical to the Xbox one. How he couldn't tell the difference between two running side by side. Complete, unadvlterated lies.

My game had severe frame rate drops in the caves underneath Helgen. Within 20 minutes of game time, I was already seeing sub-20 FPS. It was impossible for them not to know how bad the PS3 version was.

The problem goes beyond Dawnguard. They said adding new DLC compounds the problem. Even if we get Dawnguard running on PS3, it sounds even less likely that we'd get any other major expansion as well if they need to pull all of the stops to get 1 DLC working.
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:24 am

GUESS WHAT?
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Post » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:16 am

#200!!!!
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