[Portions]

Everyone needs to be civil about this subject. While it's perfectly fine to have a negative opinion about the lack of a solid release date, there is a way to express yourself in a civil and mature way. We do not want to see immature hostile posts or personal insults against other forum members.

It has been http://www.bethblog.com/2012/08/02/dawnguard-ps3-update/ that the PS3 version will be delayed a bit as they are still working to ensure acceptable performance on the platform.
Also we now have the news that the https://twitter.com/elderscrolls/status/239177833199583235 so hopefully Dawnguard for the PS3 is closer. (**Now released**)

Earlier in the month, we provided an update on Dawnguard's status for PS3.

It's been a few weeks, and we wanted to make sure everyone knows where we're at with Dawnguard. Skyrim is a massive and dynamic game that requires a lot of resources, and things get much more complex when you're talking about sizable content like Dawnguard. We have tried a number of things, but none of them solve the issue enough to make Dawnguard good for everyone. The PS3 is a powerful system, and we're working hard to deliver the content you guys want. Dawnguard is obviously not the only DLC we’ve been working on either, so the issues of adding content get even more complicated. This is not a problem we’re positive we can solve, but we are working together with Sony to try to bring you this content.

We wish we had a more definitive answer right now. We understand the frustration when the same content is not available on all platforms. When we have an update, we will certainly let you know. We deeply appreciate all the time and support you have given us, and we’ll keep doing our best to return that.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1407994-ps3-release-for-dawnguard-thread-14/

[Emmanuel Morales]

I find it really embarrassing that bethesda is the only company that has problems with the console sony ...

[yermom]

If I worked for Bethesda I know I wouldn't be proud of the product they put out on the PS3.

[Anna Krzyzanowska]

I find it really embarrassing that bethesda is the only company that has problems with the console sony ...

[Rob Davidson]

I find it really embarrassing that bethesda is the only company that has problems with the console sony ...

Well I have a question? How many games are as big as Skyrim on the Playstation 3? Or better yet any console in general? (Other then Oblivion of course..)
I don't want to get into system specs because that is not my area of expertise, but long story short. Bethesda could have done a better job by making Skyrim then carrying over everything from Morrowind/Oblivion.

[Klaire]

Can someone really justify all this hate? I mean, LA noire was a game I loved, and there was one case that I never got to play because it was PS3 exclusive. I just looked at it on the wiki and moved on. Rockstar did a similar thing with RDR. Oh well.
You complain about the lack of information, yet every post on bethblog is met with streams of 'I hate you beth, I'm never buying any of your games again.' Quite frankly, if that was the response I got for keeping the fans updated on all things bethesda, I just wouldn't say anything until dawnguard was ready.
You complain that bethesda are poor developers? If that was the case, why continue to but shoddy product after shoddy product. They may have some bugs unfixed, but what other developer can keep you playing a single-player RPG for hundreds of hours? Witcher 2 lasted about 30 hours for me, Skyrim, 300. In a game that large, theres lots of bugs? They're poor developers because they can't program for the PS3 as well as the Xbox? That's like saying I'm bad at writing because I find it easier to write on paper than sandpaper. No, I can write just fine, but Sandpaper isn't suited to my pen. Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with sandpaper, it's just not as easy to work with. They say a poor craftsman blames his tools, but bethesda aren't doing that. They're doing their best to smooth out the faults, but it takes time.

First there is a big difference between a game that is crafted as a platform specific title and a game that is supposedly crafted for a multi-platform title. Skyrim and its attendant dlcs were touted and amuch hyped to be multi-platform affairs. Your La Noir example falls flat here. It would be like me complaining that the next Legend of Zelda game wouldn't be making its way to the PS3 or Xbox 360.

As to the hate, that's really not so hard to understand if you just look at this whole situation and not the few individuals over-the-top raging. Point blank, Bethesda has made claims and is failing to keep them in the opinion of some(myself included to be honest). Anger from the the ppl Beth. has intentionally/unintentionally misled is a normal human reaction imo. I mean, someone goes out of their way promising you a steak dinner in exchange for money/goods/services, and then when its time to settle up-they give you a single old hamburger and a few fries.

Wouldn't you be angry?

[Laura-Lee Gerwing]

maybe its beth way of saying to the ps3 users to get off the couch and throw the old pig skin eh

[RObert loVes MOmmy]

maybe its beth way of saying to the ps3 users to get off the couch and throw the old pig skin eh

That would have been if they had said upfront TES V: Skyrim was only going to be supported on the Xbox 360 and PC platforms back in '11.

[Marilú]

First there is a big difference between a game that is crafted as a platform specific title and a game that is supposedly crafted for a multi-platform title. Skyrim and its attendant dlcs were touted and amuch hyped to be multi-platform affairs. Your La Noir example falls flat here. It would be like me complaining that the next Legend of Zelda game wouldn't be making its way to the PS3 or Xbox 360.

As to the hate, that's really not so hard to understand if you just look at this whole situation and not the few individuals over-the-top raging. Point blank, Bethesda has made claims and is failing to keep them in the opinion of some(myself included to be honest). Anger from the the ppl Beth. has intentionally/unintentionally misled is a normal human reaction imo. I mean, someone goes out of their way promising you a steak dinner in exchange for money/goods/services, and then when its time to settle up-they give you a single old hamburger and a few fries.

Wouldn't you be angry?

More like offering a steak dinner, and getting a veggie burger.

[Ben sutton]

Well I have a question? How many games are as big as Skyrim on the Playstation 3? Or better yet any console in general? (Other then Oblivion of course..)
I don't want to get into system specs because that is not my area of expertise, but long story short. Bethesda could have done a better job by making Skyrim then carrying over everything from Morrowind/Oblivion.

Just because a game doesn't have as much "stuff" as another game, doesn't mean it's just as demanding. Really, it's just the RAM that Skyrim has trouble with. The Playstation can handle any game that a Xbox game, and if the developer does it right, it can handle them much better.

[Sierra Ritsuka]

Well I have a question? How many games are as big as Skyrim on the Playstation 3? Or better yet any console in general? (Other then Oblivion of course..)
I don't want to get into system specs because that is not my area of expertise, but long story short. Bethesda could have done a better job by making Skyrim then carrying over everything from Morrowind/Oblivion.

gran turismo 5 is a great example

[Elisha KIng]

Well I have a question? How many games are as big as Skyrim on the Playstation 3? Or better yet any console in general? (Other then Oblivion of course..)
I don't want to get into system specs because that is not my area of expertise, but long story short. Bethesda could have done a better job by making Skyrim then carrying over everything from Morrowind/Oblivion.

Red Dead Redemption was a big game too, with a massive map and side quests all over, RDR never coughed up the amount of problems or delayed (none I can remember) like Beth has for...ever

[Thomas LEON]

While I don't question Bethesda's talent as developers, as they've made some of the best games I've ever had the privilege of playing, they should definitely be taking some well deserved heat for their inability to optimize their titles for the PlayStation hardware. Had this been 2007, they would have a valid excuse for claiming the PS3 is "too hard" to develop for, as did almost all non-Sony developers back then. But by 2011/2012, this is clearly not the case anymore.

They seriously need to re-evaluate how their titles are being developed and ported to the PS3, as the PlayStation userbase represents a very large chunk of their market. It's simply unacceptable for their DLC to be unable on the PS3 (if that's what ultimately ends up happening). Perhaps they should turn to other first party developers like Naughty Dog (Uncharted) in order to get tips and tricks on how to optimize Dawnguard. They could also look into other (third party) studios who've developed multi-platform games on the PS3 first and did ports to the 360. Such examples would include Square Enix (Final Fantasy) and Rockstar (Grand Theft Auto, Red Dead Redemption). Heck, they could even turn to Valve who was in the same position years ago that they're in now, yet somehow managed to overcome it.

Now, as someone pointed out earlier, Dawnguard is already completed and running on PS3 hardware, just not good enough to account for everyone. I agree that it's unlikely that Bethesda will scrap the project with it being so close to completion. Until that day comes, I'll reserve my hate towards Bethesda.

[kitten maciver]

Red Dead Redemption was a big game too, with a massive map and side quests all over, RDR never coughed up the amount of problems or delayed (none I can remember) like Beth has for...ever

I forgot all about RDR, fun game.

Prototype and Infamous although not the same style of sandbox game, not with a million items and such I mean, they had decent sized maps as well and I never ran into a single problem with them. I downloaded festival of blood the first day and not one bug.

[stevie critchley]

Don't forget grand theft auto as well.

[daniel royle]

I forgot all about RDR, fun game.

Prototype and Infamous although not the same style of sandbox game, not with a million items and such I mean, they had decent sized maps as well and I never ran into a single problem with them. I downloaded festival of blood the first day and not one bug.

I tried playing FoB with a move controller fun! I wish I had the navigation controller though useing my Duelshock was a challange

[STEVI INQUE]

Well I have a question? How many games are as big as Skyrim on the Playstation 3? Or better yet any console in general? (Other then Oblivion of course..)
I don't want to get into system specs because that is not my area of expertise, but long story short. Bethesda could have done a better job by making Skyrim then carrying over everything from Morrowind/Oblivion.

Red Dead Redemption
Infamous
Grand Theft Auto IV
Dragon Dogma
Far Cry 2
Just Cause 2

there are others but you get the idea.. besides it NOT how big your game world is, it's HOW good your game engine is and it's coded.. IMO

[April]

I forgot all about RDR, fun game.

Prototype and Infamous although not the same style of sandbox game, not with a million items and such I mean, they had decent sized maps as well and I never ran into a single problem with them. I downloaded festival of blood the first day and not one bug.

& don't forget heavy rain. tons of opinions, alot of different ways to play. & some of the best graphics i have ever seen. with all of that alone it could of had huge bugs, but it didn't have one bug.

[sas]

& don't forget heavy rain. tons of opinions, alot of different ways to play. & some of the best graphics i have ever seen. with all of that alone it could of had huge bugs, but it didn't have one bug.

have you seen FOX engine for MGS Ground Zeroes? good lord that was impressive

[Stryke Force]

have you seen FOX engine for MGS Ground Zeroes? good lord that was impressive

no i haven't.

[LittleMiss]

no i haven't.

http://youtu.be/L5IVOs5Pxh8

[Richard Dixon]

http://youtu.be/L5IVOs5Pxh8

man those graphics look just as impressive as heavy rains if not alittle bit more.

[Trevor Bostwick]

man those graphics look just as impressive as heavy rains if not alittle bit more.

I know right!, I can't wait for the games release along with revegeance release as well.

[ONLY ME!!!!]

I have been a huge Elder Scrolls fan since Morrowind. I played Oblivion so much I had to buy a second copy cuz the first was played too much. I am and continue to be a huge Elder Scrolls fan.

That having been said, I feel cheated. I pre-ordered Skyrim, and went to the midnight release of the game. I fought with 70 other people who were also at Gamestop in order to get into the door long enough to get my copy. I arrived back home at 3 am. The second I start the game it feezes as soon as the dragon attacks in the opening scene after charecter creation.
I went thru all the bugs, patches, fixes, etc, but I was content. I was happy when I heard about Dawnguard. New content is almost always good.

Now Dawnguard is not only not available for PS3 but "The PS3 is a powerful system, and we're working hard to deliver the content you guys want. Dawnguard is obviously not the only DLC we've been working on either, so the issues of adding content get even more complicated. This is not a problem we're positive we can solve" and Hines stated that, although Dawnguard is playable on the PS3, it "just doesn't perform well in all scenarios. Some folks would be fine, some would not." When asked why that would be the case, Hines replied that "every save game is different."

Now we have Hearthfire coming out in 2 days. Nice. We can design and build a home. Start a family maybe even raise children. Yay. I get to play Elder Scrolls The Sims?.
I want to kill vampires. I want to hunt them down and eradicate them. I want new weapons and spells, shouts and powers. I may even want to be a vampire myself.
If you ever get Dawnguard working I think that PS3 users should get it half off. If you never do get it working.. as you have SO many other projects that are obviously more important than your PS3 customer fanbase and satisfaction, I think that Hearthfire should be made available to PS3 gamers for 5$ or less.

Get it together guys. if nothing else can get you motivated imagine how much money you are losing by witholding Dawnguard from the PS3 platform.

[Lance Vannortwick]

Speaking of all these other wonderful games, not to mention the fall line-up is right around the corner, why not spend your $20 worth of Dawnguard money on a used game or put it towards a new one?


I know that's not much help to you guys but it would keep you busy since it doesn't look like Dawnguard is coming any time soon.