[FirDaus LOVe farhana]

Hell, we don't even get that. According to the announcement and the trailer, even Hearthfire is only being released for XBox Live. No telling how long we'll have to wait for even that.

And I love that they say something like "it's a problem we're not sure we can fix." So, PS3 users may never get Dawnguard?! Nice.

Or that "its not the only DLC we're working on." Understandable, but shouldn't it be a major focus? I work in retail and if I were opening a new store and told my customers that "I understand you're unhappy that our Electronics department is unfinished, but we have other departments to work on. We'll get to it when we can," I'm pretty sure we'd lose those customers. Food for thought, Bethesda...

Going to have to agree with this one. I have no problem with the 30 day exclusive deals that Microsoft has conjured up with Bethesda this generation, as I said, I usually just hold off until the end and get the GOTY Edition of these games anyway. However, for the people who are patiently waiting on DLC so they can purchase it right away, it looks bad on Bethesda to be releasing more content on the 360 even after the 30 days have expired and Dawnguard hasn't even been released on the PS3 yet. Their main focus should be getting that content available to PS3 owners immediately. More DLC for 360 can wait. Forget Hearthfire. All available resources should be dedicated to getting this content released on PS3. Then worry about more later. Bethesda's priorities are clearly not what they should be.

[Beth Belcher]

If they fix this fiasco I *Might* buy Dishonoured new, but since I doubt this will resolve anytime soon Dishonoured might be bought used. At this rate I may never buy another bethesda game for my ps3, their crap treatment of customers is just revolting.

[Kim Bradley]

I don't get it Bethesda is saying the PS3 version of Dawnguard will run poorly for some people while other people will not have any performance issues. Isn't that the currently case with the PS3 version of Skyrim?

Pretty much. It's [censored] that I don't buy for one minute. They had no problem releasing broken DLC for Fallout 3 on both PS3 and PC. They had no problem releasing broken Skyrim on PS3 and not fixing it for months. Why NOW suddenly is releasing DLC that MIGHT be broken for SOME unacceptable from them? [censored] excuse. They just don't care and are busy with other things.

Sell your Bethesda games. Buy games from companies that do care. Teach Bethesda a lesson.

[Victoria Bartel]

If they fix this fiasco I *Might* buy Dishonoured new, but since I doubt this will resolve anytime soon Dishonoured might be bought used. At this rate I may never buy another bethesda game for my ps3, their crap treatment of customers is just revolting.

Don't buy it used from a store, they may get money sent back to them or something. Buy it from a friend xD

How much does skyrim sell at gamestop for PS3 anyways? I'll go sell it tomorrow if I get the chance

[MR.BIGG]

I think they could release it now and see how it plays for everyone, could do a patch later to fix any problems that arise.

[Ludivine Dupuy]

Xbox only got it early because of the 30 days exclusive deal, it's not working perfectly for xbox players bugs and glitches. So maybe when we get it there won't be many problems.

[Unstoppable Judge]

Xbox only got it early because of the 30 days exclusive deal, it's not working perfectly for xbox players bugs and glitches. So maybe when we get it there won't be many problems.

I dont get how xbox being given the game 30 days minimum before everyone else determines that they should get it before the game is even complete.

The way I see it, lately, at least with PS3, everytime they're releasing something it's what you'd expect out of a beta phase of the game.

Xbox got some bad bugs too if you were unlucky enough.


Some may think beta would be a big mess and blah blah blah, but to me beta would be where you fix the massive bugs, and release may have some minor bugs.

Unable to go through doors that are required to continue the game is a major bug, backwards flying dragons is just freaking insane. I know it's a world of magic but physics do still apply somewhat right?

Constant crashing is major.

Especially how vanilla was on 11/11/11, I don't want to know what they're beta was like, maybe it started out as a fuzzy screen. And dawnguard is probably crashing every 5 minutes I don't know. They say every time you load a save its a new world?

I find it odd that that'd take well over a month to fix, and be so bad that you'd have to consider cancellation. I feel like theres more to it than that.

Anyways once it's out for you guys, it'll still be a bug fest. Just like it was for some of the 360 people and a bunch of PC people. At least PC can fix itself with some help xD

[Ilona Neumann]

I dont get how xbox being given the game 30 days minimum before everyone else determines that they should get it before the game is even complete.

The way I see it, lately, at least with PS3, everytime they're releasing something it's what you'd expect out of a beta phase of the game.

Xbox got some bad bugs too if you were unlucky enough.


Some may think beta would be a big mess and blah blah blah, but to me beta would be where you fix the massive bugs, and release may have some minor bugs.

Unable to go through doors that are required to continue the game is a major bug, backwards flying dragons is just freaking insane. I know it's a world of magic but physics do still apply somewhat right?

Constant crashing is major.

Especially how vanilla was on 11/11/11, I don't want to know what they're beta was like, maybe it started out as a fuzzy screen. And dawnguard is probably crashing every 5 minutes I don't know. They say every time you load a save its a new world?

I find it odd that that'd take well over a month to fix, and be so bad that you'd have to consider cancellation. I feel like theres more to it than that.

Anyways once it's out for you guys, it'll still be a bug fest. Just like it was for some of the 360 people and a bunch of PC people. At least PC can fix itself with some help xD

Just a theory I am probably way off, but I wonder if they actually tried to submit it and Sony blocked it. The whole statement that they were talking with Sony made me wonder this. Like you said they had no problems releasing a product before that worked for some and didn't for others. Perhaps Sony is a bit fed up with the whole situation and didn't want to hear about the DLC causing even more problems.

[josie treuberg]

Just a theory I am probably way off, but I wonder if they actually tried to submit it and Sony blocked it. The whole statement that they were talking with Sony made me wonder this. Like you said they had no problems releasing a product before that worked for some and didn't for others. Perhaps Sony is a bit fed up with the whole situation and didn't want to hear about the DLC causing even more problems.

that could be a possibility and I wouldn't blame sony for doing it at all. But I still do believe that the problem is solely in Bethesda, and even if sony were blocking them it would still be with bethesda.

I wonder what caused backwards flying dragons though. Funny to see.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCjK3BD6u4

[Ludivine Dupuy]

I believe that was the same patch that also caused magic resistance issues. That patch was definitely a disaster.

[Spooky Angel]

I have been a huge Elder Scrolls fan since Morrowind. I played Oblivion so much I had to buy a second copy cuz the first was played too much. I am and continue to be a huge Elder Scrolls fan.

That having been said, I feel cheated. I pre-ordered Skyrim, and went to the midnight release of the game. I fought with 70 other people who were also at Gamestop in order to get into the door long enough to get my copy. I arrived back home at 3 am. The second I start the game it feezes as soon as the dragon attacks in the opening scene after charecter creation.
I went thru all the bugs, patches, fixes, etc, but I was content. I was happy when I heard about Dawnguard. New content is almost always good.

Now Dawnguard is not only not available for PS3 but "The PS3 is a powerful system, and we're working hard to deliver the content you guys want. Dawnguard is obviously not the only DLC we've been working on either, so the issues of adding content get even more complicated. This is not a problem we're positive we can solve" and Hines stated that, although Dawnguard is playable on the PS3, it "just doesn't perform well in all scenarios. Some folks would be fine, some would not." When asked why that would be the case, Hines replied that "every save game is different."

Now we have Hearthfire coming out in 2 days. Nice. We can design and build a home. Start a family maybe even raise children. Yay. I get to play Elder Scrolls The Sims?.
I want to kill vampires. I want to hunt them down and eradicate them. I want new weapons and spells, shouts and powers. I may even want to be a vampire myself.
If you ever get Dawnguard working I think that PS3 users should get it half off. If you never do get it working.. as you have SO many other projects that are obviously more important than your PS3 customer fanbase and satisfaction, I think that Hearthfire should be made available to PS3 gamers for 5$ or less.

Get it together guys. if nothing else can get you motivated imagine how much money you are losing by witholding Dawnguard from the PS3 platform.

You do get it for 5 bucks

[vicki kitterman]

I dont expect DG till 2013 at best. And knowing the money [censored] that is Beth, itll still be full price.

[Nikki Morse]

Im a big fan of Bethesda, My love starts with Fallout 3, then Oblivion, later New Vegas, and now Skyrim.
But im really dissapointed that bethesda said that we PS3 users will never have dawnguard or other dlc, its just unfair!
Enough that i have to deal with my hype for 1 month cause of the exclusiveness microsoft has, and now this? Why? I′ve payed the game as xbox and pc users, why they have the right to play dlc and i dont? What the hell is in bethesda's mind when they say those things?
And dont tell me its ps3 hardware problem because its NOT!! Its your entirely fault!! You bethesda guys always release a game in ps3 without any support at all, it happens in New vegas and Fallout 3.
Why this guys didnt ask naughty dog how to work on ps3, or guerrilla, or rockstar, etc?? Because they dont care at all!! They will leave us without any support at all and thats it, like always is.
They are working with sony? hahahaha yea, if they were working with sony the problem should be fixed months ago...

And now tell me, I spent like 100 dollars in the game and the guide, what do I do with this? WHAT??
You guys were the best videogame company for me, always, now you became the worst of all!!!!

[Julie Ann]

Well I have a question? How many games are as big as Skyrim on the Playstation 3? Or better yet any console in general? (Other then Oblivion of course..)
I don't want to get into system specs because that is not my area of expertise, but long story short. Bethesda could have done a better job by making Skyrim then carrying over everything from Morrowind/Oblivion.

Well ps3 has mag, red dead redemption, dc universe,... these are all big games.

[Maya Maya]

Pretty much. It's [censored] that I don't buy for one minute. They had no problem releasing broken DLC for Fallout 3 on both PS3 and PC. They had no problem releasing broken Skyrim on PS3 and not fixing it for months. Why NOW suddenly is releasing DLC that MIGHT be broken for SOME unacceptable from them? [censored] excuse. They just don't care and are busy with other things.

Sell your Bethesda games. Buy games from companies that do care. Teach Bethesda a lesson.

Bethesda release various games on PS3 which are apparently highly bug ridden, people rightfully complain. Now they have a DLC in the works which they feel doesn't perform adequately, they withhold the release to help improve the performance, people complain. Now I understand that people are unhappy but have some sense. How is this an excuse? Why would they damage their reputation and intentionally withhold the release of their DLC even longer for any other reason than to improve its quality. Its a business, they want to release it. Even businesses which look at customers as simply sources of income care about what people think of them. I imagine the team is disappointed and wants to resolve the issues as quick as possible.

[kennedy]

Red Dead Redemption
Infamous
Grand Theft Auto IV
Dragon Dogma
Far Cry 2
Just Cause 2

there are others but you get the idea.. besides it NOT how big your game world is, it's HOW good your game engine is and it's coded.. IMO

^This BF3 makers cliam that the game pushes the PS3 HW to its limits yet suffers rarely any bugs and runs smooth, Skyrim am sure runs the PS3 HW to a great amont but suffers bug after bug after bug. Coding and the engine is Beths problem not the PS3 HW.

[Kelsey Hall]

i have to say reading these posts was an eye opening experience. lots of interesting opinions. though as a life long elder scrolls and fallout fan i am on the edge of the cliff of overwhelming dissapointment, please dont make me fall!!

i think that bethesda should just man up and make a decision now and state catagorically if ps3 users will or will not get any of the DLCs. if they cant get them to work properly then they should drop them all together, but make sure they tell us sooner rather than later. i no longer care about dawnguard (in my opinion the whole vampire thing is overdone, boring and for girly emo kids, plus the genre was ruined by those crappy twi-[censored]e films) but it would be nice to know if any of the others will be available. we havent heard anything about the possibility of harthfire let alone any others, but the sooner we know the less we will [censored] about it.

on another note, within the next 6 to 8 months there are many new and superb (also fully working) titles coming onto the market, such as AC3, gtaV etc. if bethesda no longer want to play ball with ps3 users then thats their problem, there are plenty of other games out there i can and will spend my money on.

[NeverStopThe]

Bethesda release various games on PS3 which are apparently highly bug ridden, people rightfully complain. Now they have a DLC in the works which they feel doesn't perform adequately, they withhold the release to help improve the performance, people complain. Now I understand that people are unhappy but have some sense. How is this an excuse? Why would they damage their reputation and intentionally withhold the release of their DLC even longer for any other reason than to improve its quality. Its a business, they want to release it. Even businesses which look at customers as simply sources of income care about what people think of them. I imagine the team is disappointed and wants to resolve the issues as quick as possible.

now is no longer whether or not bait but that should keep us more informed about what is really happening and the fact that he had never encountered a similar problem with other gaming companies also say that skyrim is too large or ps3 stupid things like that are just excuses because esistno games much bigger that work perfectly on ps3, gt5 see, infamous2, Batman Arkam city etc. ...

[Scared humanity]

now is no longer whether or not bait but that should keep us more informed about what is really happening and the fact that he had never encountered a similar problem with other gaming companies also say that skyrim is too large or ps3 stupid things like that are just excuses because esistno games much bigger that work perfectly on ps3, gt5 see, infamous2, Batman Arkam city etc. ...

I would say that Skyrim is quite different to those games and much more complex in terms of coding and testing due to the amount of variables which are unique to each playthrough. Its not in anyway an excuse but you should take it into consideration.

[Jeremy Kenney]

Well I have a question? How many games are as big as Skyrim on the Playstation 3? Or better yet any console in general? (Other then Oblivion of course..)
I don't want to get into system specs because that is not my area of expertise, but long story short. Bethesda could have done a better job by making Skyrim then carrying over everything from Morrowind/Oblivion.

Red Dead Redemption is bigger

[gary lee]

Also Saints Row 3 is just as demanding as Skyrim if not more

[james reed]

I would say that Skyrim is quite different to those games and much more complex in terms of coding and testing due to the amount of variables which are unique to each playthrough. Its not in anyway an excuse but you should take it into consideration.

Indeed, latest tweets from Beth. have said performance is effected only on certain saves. That being said, if so, then Beth. obviously has been mis-allocating between GPU and CPU memory. If every single piece of junk in your savegame ends up being the province of only one of the pair, then I can see how problems could arise.

Bethesda should have seen this coming from the get-go, but if as GStaff stated, they're now working with Sony to sort the issue, I think there's some hope... fixing resource usage problems for PS3 might not only eventually bring us Dawnguard, but would also improve all future Beth. content for PS3... let's have some faith and hope they crack it.

[Dragonz Dancer]

Red Dead Redemption is bigger

And the new Metal Gear Solid will probably be WAY more demanding than Skyrim, yet will most likely work perfectly.

[Solène We]

See if DG ever comes out then it better be free. Skyrim is mainstream and every mistake they make is too, as well as the nice things they do. If they want to actually apologize for their mistakes then DG should be free with bug fixes and all. There is no reason ps3 players should be paying the same as other platforms if the dlc is released months after the others. Time > money.

[Kanaoka]

See if DG ever comes out then it better be free. Skyrim is mainstream and every mistake they make is too, as well as the nice things they do. If they want to actually apologize for their mistakes then DG should be free with bug fixes and all. There is no reason ps3 players should be paying the same as other platforms if the dlc is released months after the others. Time > money.

Ha, I am really sorry, but this whole thing about Bethesda relesing Dawnguard for free is impossible, there would be complaints from pc players and Xbox, and this is something that no (big) company will allow. We should be thankfull if they relese it and if they relese it with same price as Xbox and Pc, because if they relese it they may raise price to get money they lost on adapting it to ps3