[Mario Alcantar]

If it's one of the new 360's you should not have to worry, then again more often then it with the new ones it's piss poor care on the owners part that kills the machine not faulty tech. I got a 20 year old sega genesis sitting on the shelf below my 360 and it still functions perfectly to this day so I know what good and bad care can bring when it comes to a game system.

That's like comparing a military super computer hooked up to the "Z machine" to an abacus, lol. One is going to burn out sooner than the other.

Either way, I'll see your Genesis and raise you a Master System (home of Phantasy Star, the game that set the tone for all RPG's following it) and a 2600!

If you can find someone who knows how to do it, you can have whats called a 4 volt fan mod done to your xbox. My 2007 xbox was having overheating issues and a buddy of mine who repairs xbox's did the mod to mine. My xbox worked perfectly ever since until i gave it to my cousin earlier this year because i bought a new "slim" xbox.

External cooler fans. Bought one from Target for $20. Works great though the sensor is a bit too sensative, as it turns on almost immediately and is noisy once you bring it up to mid-level. Still, for what I payed and the audio level I have my tv at...it has been one of the best accessories I have ever bought, especially when I'm playing MAG.

[Logan Greenwood]

I am sick of waiting, i been waiting for dawnguard ever since i saw the trailer months ago, i gave up on all DLC for skyrim on the ps3 two days ago, I am going to use my money to get dishonored and assassin's creed 3 and maybe black ops 2.

I'm sorry but if I were you, I would not support a game with Bethesda's name on it.

[Emily abigail Villarreal]

I hope they get the issues fixed for PS3 so that everyone who paid for the game gets to play the additons to this great game on all platforms. Looking forward to building me a house on the PC.

[Leonie Connor]

Well they've already began to discourage the idea of hearthfire on PS3 apparently saying it would fuel the issue, and typically fallout I don't think was too broken without DLC necessarily but DLC completely broke it. This however was a game broken from the start that took almost a year to fix. Now the DLC is more broken than the other systems DLC, and it'll take time to fix.

Typically thinking, 5-6 months would probably be reasonable.

But this time, things don't seem to be leaning that way to me. It seems more like they may not release it at all to PS3.

Well i don't see it being a good move for bethesda to go off & say they won't cancel Dawnguard for ps3 then alittle time after that come out & say oh well we tried we are cancelling it, sorry. if that happens i think it would be the death of bethesda as a company. but anything can happen i guess, but if it true they are saying about hearthfire don't get your hopes up, then we on ps3 may never see any dlc for skyrim period, but i still hold the opinion that i don't believe it until bethesda says it & i still hold hope that we will get to play dawnguard on ps3. - Againstallodds14

First time i've felt like chiming in for a bit, even though i am still following this thread.

My prediction? Skyrim DLC in general will never make it to PS3. Maybe not even on a GotY edition disk at this point. Only way a Sony customer is likely to see any of the reneged DLC for Skyrim is if the PS4 comes out and is easy to port to. That or start shelling out cash in order to experience the content on either PC or Xbox 360.

If that happens & we on ps3 never see any dlc on ps3 even in the GotY edition, it would ruin Bethesda if not kill the company in my opinion because of the huge backlash they would get from not just the Ps3 users, but the gaming media & just mainstream media itself.
If thats the only two ways i'll be able to play the skyrim dlcs, then i most likely will never play them. because A: my pc isn't strong enough to play skyrim & i'm not shelling out 200 bucks for a Xbox & 60 for skyrim even more for the dlcs & not to mention the ton of characters i have & time it took to make them. i personally don't have that kind of time.
& to me personally i would find it sad if Skyrim is release on the ps4 ( if that even comes ) with all the dlc in it just because its easier to port. in my opinion that would scream lazy. - Againstallodds14

[Phoenix Draven]

wow thread 25, about 4800 posts at 200 per thread this is crazy, i am getting close to giveing up on this game ever getting dlc, from the twitter posts i gather we will never see any dlc, i just wish they would consider smaller pieces of the dlc at least if were not going to get the full thing, sadly they say they wont.

[Marine x]

Well, it's been over a month since our last update concerning this long-awaited expansion. Still no word. I think it's about time Pete Hines just comes out and tells us that PS3 users are SOL, and stops stringing us along like a like guy being friend-zoned. Seriously. Either tell us we're getting it, or that it's not going to happen. SOMETHING!!!

[Jerry Jr. Ortiz]

Well, it's been over a month since our last update concerning this long-awaited expansion. Still no word. I think it's about time Pete Hines just comes out and tells us that PS3 users are SOL, and stops stringing us along like a like guy being friend-zoned. Seriously. Either tell us we're getting it, or that it's not going to happen. SOMETHING!!!

Don't worry. Dishonored hits shelves next week. I'm fairly certain Hines is just waiting for people to go out and buy that before he delivers the bad news. I'm willing to bet that if nothing is said next week, he'll tell us the week after.

[Ebou Suso]

Don't worry. Dishonored hits shelves next week. I'm fairly certain Hines is just waiting for people to go out and buy that before he delivers the bad news. I'm willing to bet that if nothing is said next week, he'll tell us the week after.

Even though this is probably true, to me that shows even more how petty Bethesda is for money. I know they are a business, but still.

[El Goose]

If Bethesda does come out with the bad news I seriously doubt it would be the end of them as some here have mentioned, yes they would get a massive caining from gaming in general but that may be just the kind of tonic that Bethesda needs in order to wake-up to themselves. It is a sad and long running joke about the buggyness of Beth. products and a good hard hammering in the media might just put an end to it, they might even start listening to their Beta testers.

[Amelia Pritchard]

Agreed mindboggles, heck even now they are getting a slight hammering from some of your various smaller video game media sources. In all honesty I would be fine with them saying "We will no longer support the PS3" no apologies nothing, that in itself would at least make me feel better about the company slightly, I have bought 2 buggy pieces of garbage from bethesda for the ps3, needless to say there WILL NOT be a fourth, basic business ethics dictate, if it will not work for some of your customers do not target that customer group. Many people on various consoles are getting irked at this, mainly for the reason of, after PS3 the other consoles have to wonder "Who's next?", I know I would be wondering that if I still owned an Xbox.

[Marion Geneste]

If Bethesda does come out with the bad news I seriously doubt it would be the end of them as some here have mentioned, yes they would get a massive caining from gaming in general but that may be just the kind of tonic that Bethesda needs in order to wake-up to themselves. It is a sad and long running joke about the buggyness of Beth. products and a good hard hammering in the media might just put an end to it, they might even start listening to their Beta testers.

I have to sadly agree as well. As long as Beth supports modding and doesn't put in crazy measures online (Which isn't happening right now because they're using Steamworks), PC users will still buy future beth products. If Beth doesn't drop the ball with 360 users or next gen Xbox users, they too will still buy the product.

[GPMG]

Thread # 25!!! Up through thread 23, I was still thinking that us PS3 (ab)users still had a chance at getting DG. Now, I don't think so (waiting this long without a progress report is never a good sign). It really is a shame, considering TES (particularly Skyrim) was my chief gaming reason to buy a PS3. On a side note, I wanted to reply to Yeknom about recommending Kingdom Of Amalur: Reckoning. THANK YOU!!! This game is FANTASTIC!!! True, the graphics aren't as realistic looking as Skyrim, but they are better (IMNSHO) than Oblivion. The world is HUGE (much bigger than Skyrim), the storyline is great, combat is better than Skyrim, awesome faction/side quests, fun crafting, and it runs great on the PS3. I've only had one minor bug after 100 hours of gameplay, and it was so minor (compared to Skyrim) that I didn't even care. The free armor DLC is quite awesome as well (hint, hint, bethesda?), and helpful through the first 20 lvls. If I finish the game and DG doesn't come out by then (or is officially announced that it won't), I'll use my $20 PSN card to get the expansion quest for this game!

The Legend of Dead Kel DLC is seriously fun. It's $10 and adds a pretty decent chunk of very fun content (especially the player housing).

[Bethany Watkin]

Man i feel so bad for all you ps3 users. This is a disgrace.

[Reven Lord]

If Bethesda does come out with the bad news I seriously doubt it would be the end of them as some here have mentioned, yes they would get a massive caining from gaming in general but that may be just the kind of tonic that Bethesda needs in order to wake-up to themselves. It is a sad and long running joke about the buggyness of Beth. products and a good hard hammering in the media might just put an end to it, they might even start listening to their Beta testers.

This. Conflict makes us strong!

[Queen of Spades]

If Bethesda actually gave the PS3 version "more attention" and made sure the PS3 version was coded properly, then I don't think Bethesda would be in such a terrible shape. This mess not only reflects Bethesda's future but Bethesda's morals and treating of fans and supporters. Seeing how much Skyrim has sold, this situation isn't going to be left on the side lines, but up front for everyone to see and to make their impression on the company. As the saying goes, the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

[Sheeva]

The lack of information over the months has been a bad sign to me lol

[Rowena]

If Bethesda actually gave the PS3 version "more attention" and made sure the PS3 version was coded properly, then I don't think Bethesda would be in such a terrible shape. This mess not only reflects Bethesda's future but Bethesda's morals and treating of fans and supporters. Seeing how much Skyrim has sold, this situation isn't going to be left on the side lines, but up front for everyone to see and to make their impression on the company. As the saying goes, the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

I have to agree, they really dropped the ball with the coding of the engine. It's been an issue the last two Fallout games and it now has reared it's ugly head one more time.

[lacy lake]

Was browsing about and came upon this. Has anyone else seen this comment?

The Future of Sega
October 3, 2012 at 6:52 am

(Sorry for the double post but this information needs to reach as many Playstation users as possible. Spread the word!!!!)

I’ve noticed that Bethesda is consistently giving out bs responses to the status of Dawnguard and other Skyrim DLC for PS3. In general we PS3 gamers are asking them the wrong questions on Twitter and their main site. What we need to ask are these questions:

1. Bethesda… why didn’t you develope Skyrim on Playstation 3 first given how complicated porting can be from Xbox 360 to Playstation 3?

2. Any viable entity projects a rate of successes and a rate of failures with their business plan. By assuming you adhere to the law and pretest your products for the lawful required amount of time, why weren’t Playstation 3 users given a fair notice or a delayed release of Skyrim to maximize quality and fair usage for current and forthcoming content of Skyrim?

3. Given the amount of complaints and faulty replicas of your design why hasn’t your company requested a recall of the Playstation 3 version of Skyrim? Are you unaware that you can be held liable in the court of law for false advertising, mental anguish, and bad faith business dealings?

4. Bethesda, Playstation 3 users have proof that:

a. Skyrim was defective before they purchased it.

b. The un-obvious defects of Skyrim on Playstation 3 could not have been seen before purchasing.

c. You did not for-warn or notify them about Skyrim’s defects before the sale or that you actually lied about it.

d. Playstation 3 users relied on your lies or non-disclosures of the Playstation 3 version of Skyrim.

e. Playstation 3 users have suffered monetary damage due to your negligent misrepresentation of Skyrim on Playstation 3.

What is your response to that?

Read more: http://www.thebitbag.com/2012/10/02/dawnguard-hearthfire-skyrim-dlc-ps3-issue/#ixzz28Ib0WyZi

Found it http://www.thebitbag.com/2012/10/02/dawnguard-hearthfire-skyrim-dlc-ps3-issue/#comments.

Thoughts? Criticisms?

[D LOpez]

Was browsing about and came upon this. Has anyone else seen this comment?



Found it http://www.thebitbag.com/2012/10/02/dawnguard-hearthfire-skyrim-dlc-ps3-issue/#comments.

Thoughts? Criticisms?

Valid questions, sure.

[evelina c]

Mostly Beth company is busy with not just dawnguard soo be pacient

[Anthony Rand]

Mostly Beth company is busy with not just dawnguard soo be pacient

Being 'that' guy a sec, its patient.

Other than that correction, no other comments.

[Stryke Force]

Mostly Beth company is busy with not just dawnguard soo be pacient

Beth works in separate teams. Some people work on PS3, some on Xbox, some on this DLC, some on that DLC, etc

So for the most part we're referring to one team at this point when talking about development.

And talking about the company as a whole when it comes to how it responded to problems it was fully aware of

[Jon O]

I really want to know how big the PS3 team at Bethesda is and what their qualifications are. I'm starting to think that it might only be one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iapECJKx4k0 who probably isn't the most equipped for the job...

[Quick draw II]

That's like comparing a military super computer hooked up to the "Z machine" to an abacus, lol. One is going to burn out sooner than the other.

Either way, I'll see your Genesis and raise you a Master System (home of Phantasy Star, the game that set the tone for all RPG's following it) and a 2600!

I match your Raise with Super Nintendo with super mario world ( The original Italian stallion ) lol

[Sweet Blighty]

If Bethesda does come out with the bad news I seriously doubt it would be the end of them as some here have mentioned, yes they would get a massive caining from gaming in general but that may be just the kind of tonic that Bethesda needs in order to wake-up to themselves. It is a sad and long running joke about the buggyness of Beth. products and a good hard hammering in the media might just put an end to it, they might even start listening to their Beta testers.

Actually gaming in general will hardly care.

I know this situation svcks for those who like Skyrim and want the DLC's, and I empathize, it will hurt Beth's image on the PS3 but on a grander scale this is pretty much a non-issue for several reasons:
a) The DLC's are not what you bought. You bought a full game, which already had more content than the vast majority of AAA releases.
If I'm not mistaken, pre-release of the main game, the DLC's were not advertised or promised to ever be available (on any platform for that matter, assumptions are meaningless)
Hence any accusation of being deceived, duped, or of Beth being moneygrabbers for not providing a "full" product, is pointless. You don't have any right to these DLC's.
This is also why this issue isn't as big in the current press as some here think it is or prefer it'd be.(that and gaming press still being immature even after 2 decades, but that's a different discussion)
B ) Despite all the hubbub gamers make, they are hardly ever principal enough to make strong their threats. They've been shafted far worse by many other companies, from invasive (potentially damaging) DRM over regurgitated content to god awful, barely functioning ports; and yet most perpetrators are still around, quite often even being the big dogs in the pen (just look at EA and Activasion). (and gamers have failed to support companies who actually did things different)
Add to it, that while Beth's conduct in this affair is possibly unsavoury (depends on the exact issues they're having), they've also built a huge amount of good PR in the larger gaming community with their stance towards modding and the overall quality and quantity of their games.
C) there is also the very real possibility Beth isn't actually at fault. The PS3 does have a reputation of being hard to program for, several devs have stated this in the past. The Gamebryo/Creation engine (which are essentially the same damn thing despite marketing) is also quite old and there could be something in its core programming that doesn't mesh well with the PS3's architecture. I'm not even close to a programmer or coder so I can't judge the likelihood of it, but I can't dismiss it either.

Criticizing Skyrim itself for being buggy is certainly justified. Criticizing Beth's PR/marketing department in the whole DLC issue as well. But demanding the DLC isn't necessarily, at least not in a legal or entitled sense.