[kelly thomson]

Consider this a re-boot and fair warning. We understand people like to air their views about the things they are frustrated with, related to a game release. So we are allowing this thread to continue. But we have noticed a rather ugly tone in the last few threads and it is time to stop. Therefore, I am re-booting the thread so you all can have another chance to continue your discussion.

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It has been http://www.bethblog.com/2012/08/02/dawnguard-ps3-update/ that the PS3 version will be delayed a bit as they are still working to ensure acceptable performance on the platform.

Gstaff, on 30 August 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

Earlier in the month, we provided an update on Dawnguard's status for PS3.

It's been a few weeks, and we wanted to make sure everyone knows where we're at with Dawnguard. Skyrim is a massive and dynamic game that requires a lot of resources, and things get much more complex when you're talking about sizable content like Dawnguard. We have tried a number of things, but none of them solve the issue enough to make Dawnguard good for everyone. The PS3 is a powerful system, and we're http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1413248-ps3-release-for-dawnguard-thread-23/# to deliver the content you guys want. Dawnguard is obviously not the only DLC we’ve been working on either, so the issues of adding content get even more complicated. This is not a problem we’re positive we can solve, but we are working together with Sony to try to bring you this content.

We wish we had a more definitive answer right now. We understand the frustration when the same content is not available on all platforms. When we have an update, we will certainly let you know. We deeply appreciate all the time and support you have given us, and we’ll keep doing our best to return that.

Additional information from Pete Hines in response to Dawnguard:

"Yes, it’s just doesn’t http://www.slashgear.com/dawnguard-ps3-may-not-see-release-as-problems-persist-31245504/# well in all scenarios. Some folks would be fine, some would not.”

One of Bethesda’s top PR execs, Pete Hines, (who holds the position of VP of PR and http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/09/skyrim-dawnguard-ps3-dlc-might-never-arrive/#), tweeted to a question that concerned the release date, saying, “No, we will not release it if we can’t get the performance to an ‘acceptable’ standard. Our stance on this has not changed.”

[George PUluse]

Consider this a re-boot and fair warning. We understand people like to air their views about the things they are frustrated with, related to a game release. So we are allowing this thread to continue. But we have noticed a rather ugly tone in the last few threads and it is time to stop. Therefore, I am re-booting the thread so you all can have another chance to continue your discussion.

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You may complain/make negative comments - as long as you abide by the forum rules - keep it constructive and civil.

This is not the forum or the thread for you to flame. Flaming includes the constant ill-conceived slagging of people who cannot defend themselves. We can and will hand out warnings and suspensions for flaming, period.

When this thread gets close to the 200 post mark, feel free to report it. A moderator will start a new thread.

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Additional information from Pete Hines in response to Dawnguard:

So the thread was stopped temporarily because of people attacking each other, not for any other reasons, right?

In the last one I only noticed it with one person who was reported, but I didn't notice enough to put the entire thread under lockdown and review so I feel like I'm missing something.

[GabiiE Liiziiouz]

So the thread was stopped temporarily because of people attacking each other, not for any other reasons, right?

In the last one I only noticed it with one person who was reported, but I didn't notice enough to put the entire thread under lockdown and review so I feel like I'm missing something.

You obviously missed all the posts that were deleted in the last thread.

Back on topic please, this is not the place to discuss moderator actions or advice.

[Stat Wrecker]

You obviously missed all the posts that were deleted in the last thread.

Back on topic please, this is not the place to discuss moderator actions or advice.

I suppose I got there after they were deleted xD

But alright back on topic.

Kinda harder than it sounds now, flow was interrupted... lol
Like a rock randomly falling in the middle of a conversation, everyone just forgets what was being talked about...


Guess we'll start off with, any new predictions on release date? xD

[Zoe Ratcliffe]

I predict that Dawnguard will never be released for PS3, in fact I believe that we will soon hear a post or something along the lines of "we apologize to all of our loyal PS3 Users, but we here at Bethesda have decided that it is in our best interests to not support this platform any longer"

[David John Hunter]

I'm not going to forget this.

Congratulations, Bethesda. You've made a great game. Which makes your failures that much worse. You've proven yourself unreliable, untrustworthy, and unworthy of my money. Goodbye.

[Gemma Flanagan]

"we apologize to all of our loyal PS3 Users, but we here at Bethesda have decided that it is in our best interests to not support this platform any longer"

Sorry to say mate but Bugthesda has and will never say we apologize or even a quick sorry to us. My prodiction is a week after Dishonored is realese and then they will come out and say no DG for PS3.

[louise tagg]

I suppose I got there after they were deleted xD

But alright back on topic.

Kinda harder than it sounds now, flow was interrupted... lol
Like a rock randomly falling in the middle of a conversation, everyone just forgets what was being talked about...


Guess we'll start off with, any new predictions on release date? xD

First time i've felt like chiming in for a bit, even though i am still following this thread.

My prediction? Skyrim DLC in general will never make it to PS3. Maybe not even on a GotY edition disk at this point. Only way a Sony customer is likely to see any of the reneged DLC for Skyrim is if the PS4 comes out and is easy to port to. That or start shelling out cash in order to experience the content on either PC or Xbox 360.

[Sarah Knight]

So the thread was stopped temporarily because of people attacking each other, not for any other reasons, right?

In the last one I only noticed it with one person who was reported, but I didn't notice enough to put the entire thread under lockdown and review so I feel like I'm missing something.

hmm kinda disappeared after our discussion of peoples misconception of what the twitter post meant. *shrug* is it just me or do argonians constantly get nerfed each game? also is it just me or would a regular person notice glowing red eyes even on a stage 1 vampire?

[LADONA]

Thread # 25!!! Up through thread 23, I was still thinking that us PS3 (ab)users still had a chance at getting DG. Now, I don't think so (waiting this long without a progress report is never a good sign). It really is a shame, considering TES (particularly Skyrim) was my chief gaming reason to buy a PS3.

On a side note, I wanted to reply to Yeknom about recommending Kingdom Of Amalur: Reckoning. THANK YOU!!! This game is FANTASTIC!!! True, the graphics aren't as realistic looking as Skyrim, but they are better (IMNSHO) than Oblivion. The world is HUGE (much bigger than Skyrim), the storyline is great, combat is better than Skyrim, awesome faction/side quests, fun crafting, and it runs great on the PS3. I've only had one minor bug after 100 hours of gameplay, and it was so minor (compared to Skyrim) that I didn't even care. The free armor DLC is quite awesome as well (hint, hint, bethesda?), and helpful through the first 20 lvls. If I finish the game and DG doesn't come out by then (or is officially announced that it won't), I'll use my $20 PSN card to get the expansion quest for this game!

[Robert DeLarosa]

Remember that the Fallout DLCs for PS3 were released months past the other platforms. Now I know as well as the next person that those DLCs had their fair share of trouble, but I'm hoping Bethesda has learned from that. I still believe Dawnguard, and eventually Hearthfire, will see their release for the PS3. Bethesda isn't looking to shake an entire console's worth of players - even though the lack of communication makes some think that, which is justifiable enough.

[Amy Melissa]

Remember that the Fallout DLCs for PS3 were released months past the other platforms. Now I know as well as the next person that those DLCs had their fair share of trouble, but I'm hoping Bethesda has learned from that. I still believe Dawnguard, and eventually Hearthfire, will see their release for the PS3. Bethesda isn't looking to shake an entire console's worth of players - even though the lack of communication makes some think that, which is justifiable enough.

Well they've already began to discourage the idea of hearthfire on PS3 apparently saying it would fuel the issue, and typically fallout I don't think was too broken without DLC necessarily but DLC completely broke it. This however was a game broken from the start that took almost a year to fix. Now the DLC is more broken than the other systems DLC, and it'll take time to fix.

Typically thinking, 5-6 months would probably be reasonable.

But this time, things don't seem to be leaning that way to me. It seems more like they may not release it at all to PS3.

[!beef]

I had skyrim on the ps3, biught it on release and at that point the game was great. However, by the last patch the game really was unplayable. The draw distance was ridiculous as was the frame rate. It kept crashing and i just gave up with it. Think that was due to the save game file size or something. Point is though, how would my game have reacted having a big dlc like dawnguarded added? Poorly at a guess. It seems harsh, but should it have been released on ps3 at all? Everyone on the console paid the same price for the game as all the other platforms but ps3 gets a poorer quality product.
I traded in skyrim for the xbox version. The difference between the consoles is pretty stark. Its just a shame as i doubt my xbox's longevity...how long before it cooks itself again...

[DAVId Bryant]

I had skyrim on the ps3, biught it on release and at that point the game was great. However, by the last patch the game really was unplayable. The draw distance was ridiculous as was the frame rate. It kept crashing and i just gave up with it. Think that was due to the save game file size or something. Point is though, how would my game have reacted having a big dlc like dawnguarded added? Poorly at a guess. It seems harsh, but should it have been released on ps3 at all? Everyone on the console paid the same price for the game as all the other platforms but ps3 gets a poorer quality product.
I traded in skyrim for the xbox version. The difference between the consoles is pretty stark. Its just a shame as i doubt my xbox's longevity...how long before it cooks itself again...

I dont think it should have been put on PS3 given the problems it has. But they made their money back for the time they put into the product so it doesnt matter to them TOO much xD

[Julie Serebrekoff]

I'm very disapointed in Beth. Until they pull their head out of the sand and apologize I'm done buying any future Beth products new. I expect this type of crap from EA but not Bethesda. Maybe we'll hear an announcement tommorow about something when Hearthfire's 1 month exclusive expires but I'm not holding my breath.

[evelina c]

I'm very disapointed in Beth. Until they pull their head out of the sand and apologize I'm done buying any future Beth products new. I expect this type of crap from EA but not Bethesda. Maybe we'll hear an announcement tommorow about something when Hearthfire's 1 month exclusive expires but I'm not holding my breath.

I'm use to it you shoulda played Morrowind on Xbox Vanilla. ughh "dirty disc clean" error..

[Carlos Rojas]

What worries me is that maybe beth couldnt have afforded to not release skyrim on ps3. Huge games like this are so expensive to make and they arent really that mainstream. Its a big risk for a developer to invest so heavily in game that may not sell very well. We can see how certain elements of the game have been geared towards a wider audience. Shorter questlines and stuff. I dunno, maybe im talkin rubbish. Its a pretty sad state of affairs when game developers have to dumb down games for people that are too lazy to play games properly in thier free time. I mean like putting effort into character creation and development. Remember how much longer the mages guild quest line was in oblivion? People cant be bothered with that these days. I blame casual gamers. And "accessibility". Anyways, point is, ps3 prob represents 20 to 30 percent of sales. Thats not to be sniffed considering the cost of development.

[Betsy Humpledink]

So there are many people here that did nothing wrong and are being given another chance to see if a few people don't repeat the same mistakes? Makes perfect sense. Not going to question or discuss it, but that is the gist of it I just took from the OP. Two thumbs up to you for making it very clear on your intentions and thank you for the heads up.


Well folks, tomorrow is the end of the XBox exclusivity of Hearthfire. How long before we hear about it being "delayed for a little bit" on PS3? And I've seen this question posted before, but I just love it so much that it bears repeating. Why doesnt' Bethesda hire some of the computer modders that fix this game for their next title in the series? And while they're at it, bring back the people that ported Oblivion.

What worries me is that maybe beth couldnt have afforded to not release skyrim on ps3. Huge games like this are so expensive to make and they arent really that mainstream. Its a big risk for a developer to invest so heavily in game that may not sell very well. We can see how certain elements of the game have been geared towards a wider audience. Shorter questlines and stuff. I dunno, maybe im talkin rubbish. Its a pretty sad state of affairs when game developers have to dumb down games for people that are too lazy to play games properly in thier free time. I mean like putting effort into character creation and development. Remember how much longer the mages guild quest line was in oblivion? People cant be bothered with that these days. I blame casual gamers. And "accessibility". Anyways, point is, ps3 prob represents 20 to 30 percent of sales. Thats not to be sniffed considering the cost of development.

The Elder Scrolls is quite mainstream. Of all games that were released in 2011, it was the third most popular game behind Just Dance, and Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3. Yes there is a huge investment, but just the profits from one platform would have covered the entire production of Skyrim and still turn a hefty profit.

[suniti]

I thought they already said not to expect hearthfire too soon xD

That it would potentially increase the problems they are trying to fix with dawnguard?

[Kieren Thomson]

I am sick of waiting, i been waiting for dawnguard ever since i saw the trailer months ago, i gave up on all DLC for skyrim on the ps3 two days ago, I am going to use my money to get dishonored and assassin's creed 3 and maybe black ops 2.

[Laura Mclean]

I had skyrim on the ps3, biught it on release and at that point the game was great. However, by the last patch the game really was unplayable. The draw distance was ridiculous as was the frame rate. It kept crashing and i just gave up with it. Think that was due to the save game file size or something. Point is though, how would my game have reacted having a big dlc like dawnguarded added? Poorly at a guess. It seems harsh, but should it have been released on ps3 at all? Everyone on the console paid the same price for the game as all the other platforms but ps3 gets a poorer quality product. I traded in skyrim for the xbox version. The difference between the consoles is pretty stark. Its just a shame as i doubt my xbox's longevity...how long before it cooks itself again...

If it's one of the new 360's you should not have to worry, then again more often then it with the new ones it's piss poor care on the owners part that kills the machine not faulty tech. I got a 20 year old sega genesis sitting on the shelf below my 360 and it still functions perfectly to this day so I know what good and bad care can bring when it comes to a game system.

[matt white]

If it's one of the new 360's you should not have to worry, then again more often then it with the new ones it's piss poor care on the owners part that kills the machine not faulty tech. I got a 20 year old sega genesis sitting on the shelf below my 360 and it still functions perfectly to this day so I know what good and bad care can bring when it comes to a game system.

I try to keep the thing cool by keeping the vents clear and what have you, other than that i dont know what else can be done. Im not kicking it round the room or anything so hopefully it'll live on. Its an older model. Prob 2006/2007

[Tracey Duncan]

I try to keep the thing cool by keeping the vents clear and what have you, other than that i dont know what else can be done. Im not kicking it round the room or anything so hopefully it'll live on. Its an older model. Prob 2006/2007

Not much you can do for those model's they had a bad design, sadly their ability to cool themselves is not as good as it needs to be. I had an original one before I got my slim all you can do is give it TLC and cross your fingers.

[danni Marchant]

Thread # 25!!! Up through thread 23, I was still thinking that us PS3 (ab)users still had a chance at getting DG. Now, I don't think so (waiting this long without a progress report is never a good sign). It really is a shame, considering TES (particularly Skyrim) was my chief gaming reason to buy a PS3.

On a side note, I wanted to reply to Yeknom about recommending Kingdom Of Amalur: Reckoning. THANK YOU!!! This game is FANTASTIC!!! True, the graphics aren't as realistic looking as Skyrim, but they are better (IMNSHO) than Oblivion. The world is HUGE (much bigger than Skyrim), the storyline is great, combat is better than Skyrim, awesome faction/side quests, fun crafting, and it runs great on the PS3. I've only had one minor bug after 100 hours of gameplay, and it was so minor (compared to Skyrim) that I didn't even care. The free armor DLC is quite awesome as well (hint, hint, bethesda?), and helpful through the first 20 lvls. If I finish the game and DG doesn't come out by then (or is officially announced that it won't), I'll use my $20 PSN card to get the expansion quest for this game!

Glad you are enjoying it! I am loving it too, but I haven't progressed nearly as fast as you have! there's so much to do and the combat is a blast!

[Darlene DIllow]

I try to keep the thing cool by keeping the vents clear and what have you, other than that i dont know what else can be done. Im not kicking it round the room or anything so hopefully it'll live on. Its an older model. Prob 2006/2007

If you can find someone who knows how to do it, you can have whats called a 4 volt fan mod done to your xbox. My 2007 xbox was having overheating issues and a buddy of mine who repairs xbox's did the mod to mine. My xbox worked perfectly ever since until i gave it to my cousin earlier this year because i bought a new "slim" xbox.