Well, it's been over a month since our last update concerning this long-awaited expansion. Still no word. I think it's about time Pete Hines just comes out and tells us that PS3 users are SOL, and stops stringing us along like a like guy being friend-zoned. Seriously. Either tell us we're getting it, or that it's not going to happen. SOMETHING!!!
friend-zoned, ha! Classic....
I match your Raise with Super Nintendo with super mario world ( The original Italian stallion ) lol
That doesn't match the bet by going backwards in console generation; SMS is 3rd gen, and 2600 iirc is 2nd gen, SNS is 4th gen
Actually gaming in general will hardly care.
I know this situation svcks for those who like Skyrim and want the DLC's, and I empathize, it will hurt Beth's image on the PS3 but on a grander scale this is pretty much a non-issue for several reasons:
a) The DLC's are not what you bought. You bought a full game, which already had more content than the vast majority of AAA releases.
If I'm not mistaken, pre-release of the main game, the DLC's were not advertised or promised to ever be available (on any platform for that matter, assumptions are meaningless)
Hence any accusation of being deceived, duped, or of Beth being moneygrabbers for not providing a "full" product, is pointless. You don't have any right to these DLC's.
This is also why this issue isn't as big in the current press as some here think it is or prefer it'd be.(that and gaming press still being immature even after 2 decades, but that's a different discussion)
B ) Despite all the hubbub gamers make, they are hardly ever principal enough to make strong their threats. They've been shafted far worse by many other companies, from invasive (potentially damaging) DRM over regurgitated content to god awful, barely functioning ports; and yet most perpetrators are still around, quite often even being the big dogs in the pen (just look at EA and Activasion). (and gamers have failed to support companies who actually did things different)
Add to it, that while Beth's conduct in this affair is possibly unsavoury (depends on the exact issues they're having), they've also built a huge amount of good PR in the larger gaming community with their stance towards modding and the overall quality and quantity of their games.
C) there is also the very real possibility Beth isn't actually at fault. The PS3 does have a reputation of being hard to program for, several devs have stated this in the past. The Gamebryo/Creation engine (which are essentially the same damn thing despite marketing) is also quite old and there could be something in its core programming that doesn't mesh well with the PS3's architecture. I'm not even close to a programmer or coder so I can't judge the likelihood of it, but I can't dismiss it either.
Criticizing Skyrim itself for being buggy is certainly justified. Criticizing Beth's PR/marketing department in the whole DLC issue as well. But demanding the DLC isn't necessarily, at least not in a legal or entitled sense.
I agree that in general, the majority of gaming won't care but not because of the reasons you stated.
A.) You're right, we didn't buy the DLC's or else we would have them. However, the game was advertised to have Add-On Content, it's even on the back of the box. The question is though, what full game did we buy? The same one supposedly that was delivered on XBox and PC, but it's not. The support has been lacking, slow, and overall doesn't fix much (though removing backwards flying dragons was pretty big). That's where most of the complaint is, that we paid the same amount of money as other people but did not receive the same product or service.
B.) You're right, the hubbub about the sueing and lawsuits is all hubbub. However, the notion of not buying their products is not. I know I won't and will encourage many others to do the same (though not here, because that's against the rules I think). Even if sometime in the future I get a PC capable of handling that version of a Bethesda game, I won't buy it because of past experience and I'm sure many feel the same way and will act the same way. Experience defines response in life, which can also be reflected in a game itself ironically!
C.) Several devs have stated this in the past, when it first came out. Those guys though have since created beautiful games with terrific support since then. Case and point: Rockstar, they were one of those devs. That didn't stop them though from releasing GTA4, RDR, LAN, Max Payne, and soon GTA5. They even had timed exclusive deals with GTA4 and never did those again. They figured it out, as did many others. Bethesda is literally the only company that could not match it. This has been debunked a hundred times over. It's a different architecture, true, but because something is hard doesn't mean you lazily slug your feet when trying to work with it. You work harder and figure and it out. Hell, it might be one of the best things you do because you've just grown your capabilities. The fact that they (Bethesda) advertised this whole "new" game engine and that it ran just as well on the PS3 as Xbox and PC is insulting to our intelligence. It doesn't and everybody knows it. They failed to do what so many others, even the ones that stated it was hard, have figured not only how to do, but how to do effectively.
The reason I'm going to throw out there is a simple one why the majority won't care: because the majority is on 2 other platforms. They're outweight at least 2/1 when it going against XBox and PC combined in terms of gamers on the market, but even more so because not everyone buys Skyrim because it's only targeted really to western audiences where Xbox is dominant now while PS3 is more balanced around the globe (but both were crushed in this generation of consoles by Nintendo). Bethesda still might make games for Sony products, but until they prove they can actually do it well, I'm not going to bother with it and so will many others. But as you said: the majority doesn't care. Xbox gamers generally don't care about PS3 gamers, and PC games generally really depise consoles altogether. It has nothing to do with products, console wars, or anything like that: It's simply the matter of a luxury item one purchased and you have no connection to the person who purchased the competitor.
In a word, no.
But PS3 players will be stuffing Turkeys and playing games that work well and had nothing to do with Bethesda so it's going to be a fun Christmas.
I was thinking about CoD BO2, but I didn't even buy the first one and when I did play it had no interest in it. Maybe Dust 514 will be out by then? Even so, I have 2/13/13 circled on my calendar. I just hope the game isn't ruined like FF13 was.
» Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:05 am 
I had to run to the bathroom to spit my drink out after reading that and watching the video!
