[Nicole M]

Actually holding off the dawnguard DLC and Hearthfire to release with Dragonborn would be a GOOD move for them to make. What better way to generate enthusiasm than by releasing the old content with the new. Even better if they release with some kind of deal. I'd pay $25 for all of it.

I think they're DLC for the fallout games are still full price even. 25 dollars is the price of both dawnguard and hearthfire combined isn't it? That's essentially buy 2 DLC's and we'll throw in one for free which I doubt they'd do too.

The deal would be good for those with enthusiasm still, but those who still have enthusiasm would also buy each game separately and willingly, so they wouldn't need the deal.

The ones who already lost their enthusiasm may get something, they may not. The deal may appeal to them, it may not. The thing is though it's up to them and what they deem as most profitable, they sadly won't care about "betraying" their fan base so long as they still get their money lol.

They'll decide if putting things off will effect the GotY sales seeing how some people just wait for that, how the 360 and PC community will act as I've seen alot of them saying the PS3 doesn't deserve crap and deserves no deals, if it will attract more people back to the game, is it more profitable to sell them all individually at full price or at a lower price in a bundle, how much may they lose on dishonored sales, how to get money back for any sales that it may have messed with assuming that there was an impact on that game, etc.

I hear dishonored had a good starting in sales but apparently prototype 2 did too and that company reduced the team to support and laid a bunch of people off cause it was all the sales like at once. So the good sales could still end up being bad.

But either way in the end, their decision will be based on, what will make Beth more money.

And oh cool I have 2 stars under my name now! When did that happen? xD

And this is my one thousandth post! lol

[kiss my weasel]

Saying things like this reminds me of all the people claiming, when Mists of Pandaria was trademarked, that it wasn't going to be a WoW expansion and that Blizz was just deliberately playing a joke on the players... attempting to misdirect their attention from what would be the REAL expansion.

Seriously... why would they get people's hopes up just to dash them on the floor at a later date? That's not smart business...

It's also not smart business to release a broken game, yet they done that.

[Lynne Hinton]

It's also not smart business to release a broken game, yet they done that.

I wonder how well Skyrim would be if they had delayed the 11/11/11. Too bad. It sure svcks that we have to pay the price.

[jasminε]

I've been wondering:
Why are all criticized Beth, but no one asks Sony. They need to be informed. This is also in their interest. If Beth gives us vague answers, then they have to give Sony a specific timeframe.

[GEo LIme]

I've been wondering:
Why are all criticized Beth, but no one asks Sony. They need to be informed. This is also in their interest. If Beth gives us vague answers, then they have to give Sony a specific timeframe.

Bethesda had to call in sony for help, so they know everything that's going on. Sony is probably under a gag-order so they can't release all the dirty details that's causing this debacle. I'm sure Sony would tell us what was going on with development if they were allowed to. Sony hates lying to their fan-base, and do everything they can to fix problems, and even make it up to their fan-base when they have a slip-up.

[Kelli Wolfe]

Bethesda had to call in sony for help, so they know everything that's going on. Sony is probably under a gag-order so they can't release all the dirty details that's causing this debacle. I'm sure Sony would tell us what was going on with development if they were allowed to. Sony hates lying to their fan-base, and do everything they can to fix problems, and even make it up to their fan-base when they have a slip-up.

These companies have so many people! Did none of them is a babbler or a spy?

[dean Cutler]

well I remmember someone saying that in the Patch there was a reference to a garbage collector so if there is a garbage collector it would improve performance which is probably why they are going to release the dlc

[Krystal Wilson]

Well if is "dragonborn dlc" thing is true & knowing that because the 30 day deal is over, the idea of the patch 1.8 coming out putting in the dlc menu, & all 3 dlc's coming out for ps3 on the same day doesn't seem to hard. to me. but it all depense on 2 things, A: is the code real? B: is so how far along is the next dlc? i'm guess they maybe aiming for a christmas release to get the most money because of christmas. P.s again all of this is just my opinion i could be way off.

DLC is not precisely something you can wrap up and put under the Christmas tree, if they are aiming for the holiday season when everyone has a bit more time, the 3rd DLC will come out in November, which is not that far away.

For the PS3 releases it would be impractical to be fighting a war with vampires, while trying to build your houses from Hearthfire, Dawnguard will probably come out first with enough time to get through it before giving the more optional DLC that you can choose when to play. If they release all three DLC's at the same time there will be a lot of complaints about the vampire attacks, not that that would be anything new.

[Quick draw II]

well I remmember someone saying that in the Patch there was a reference to a garbage collector so if there is a garbage collector it would improve performance which is probably why they are going to release the dlc

Haha lol

[Teghan Harris]

It turns your Playstation 3 into a transformer and it will try to kill you.

Ok, I would actually pay for that. Seriously....if that sixy chick from 1 and 2 can capture that little guy and make them a little pet, I could do it too. I'll put my PS3 into a steel case and then download it. If Bethesda could give me my own holy [censored] it's a [censored] transformer!!! I would be all over that and totally forgive them.

Well Hearthfire really shouldn't be that hard to implement, it doesn't add much. This Dragonborn DLC assuming the info we have is correct would be a new world, meaning it would be loaded separately from Skyrim which should make it easier to add because it's not adding more for the PS3 to handle while handling everything else Skyrim is running.

I believe Dawnguard is the biggest issue for them.

Well, if it's the bloat issue that many suspect (but really, we have no basis on what the problem is within the game), then really it's not the size of the dlc that is the problem, it would be what it does and what it adds to the savefiles. Hearthfire is small, but remember you're adding a whole new set of geographical parameters, plus item numbers into the game world that is completely customizable (within certain parameters), with the possibility of doing it 3 times. I know Dawnguard follows a story and adds a few areas, but they are standard and relatively static compared to what a player can do with what is given in Hearthfire.

Actually holding off the dawnguard DLC and Hearthfire to release with Dragonborn would be a GOOD move for them to make. What better way to generate enthusiasm than by releasing the old content with the new. Even better if they release with some kind of deal. I'd pay $25 for all of it.

It might be for some people, but for me personally the best time to release it would be the 30th of October. Why? Because my bank account is about to swell up from all the wedding gifts in the form of checks and cash. Christmas time is bad because I spend my money on other people, not myself and I never ask for PSN Cards for Christmas. Maybe I should though.

[Dan Stevens]

If all the PS3 folks have heard, for weeks if not months, is that "we have no info to share about progress with PS3 DLC", how will they feel if suddenly Bethesda releases something? Shouldn't there be an update along the lines of "we can report that we have made a little/some/a lot of progress?"

Would you be suprised, or angry, if the next news/update/tweet says that DLC is coming on ___ date?

[Jay Baby]

DLC is not precisely something you can wrap up and put under the Christmas tree, if they are aiming for the holiday season when everyone has a bit more time, the 3rd DLC will come out in November, which is not that far away.

For the PS3 releases it would be impractical to be fighting a war with vampires, while trying to build your houses from Hearthfire, Dawnguard will probably come out first with enough time to get through it before giving the more optional DLC that you can choose when to play. If they release all three DLC's at the same time there will be a lot of complaints about the vampire attacks, not that that would be anything new.

Thats what my point was, christmas release, in November people have more time & on christmas you can wrap up dlc its called a psn card.
A: i have a feeling either way if dawnguard is released we will be hearing alot of complaints about vampire attacks. ( for me i face ancident dragons in citys like whiterun with no body dieing so vampires would be easy i think. )
B: i see it as it would be a good business move, the ps3 users are angry how do you make them happy? release the new dlc & the 2 old dlc at the same time.
but thats just my opinion.

[Project]

If all the PS3 folks have heard, for weeks if not months, is that "we have no info to share about progress with PS3 DLC", how will they feel if suddenly Bethesda releases something? Shouldn't there be an update along the lines of "we can report that we have made a little/some/a lot of progress?"

Would you be suprised, or angry, if the next news/update/tweet says that DLC is coming on ___ date?

I wouldn't know what to think. I guess suprise that we are getting DLC and maybe abit angry because for 3 months Bethseda has been saying nothing new to report and then bam a realese date out of nowhere. why the lies Bethesda why the lies?

Thats what my point was, christmas release, in November people have more time & on christmas you can wrap up dlc its called a psn card.
A: i have a feeling either way if dawnguard is released we will be hearing alot of complaints about vampire attacks. ( for me i face ancident dragons in citys like whiterun with no body dieing so vampires would be easy i think. )
B: i see it as it would be a good business move, the ps3 users are angry how do you make them happy? release the new dlc & the 2 old dlc at the same time.
but thats just my opinion.

I agree vampire attacks should be nothing.

I don't agree with that if they realese the two old DLC with the new one will make people happy. Then why did they lie in saying no prgress has been made when clearly it must have if they know it's going to be realesed with the new.

Bethesda got to learn an important lesson don't try and make poeple forgive you for lies with more lies if they did this.

[Emily Jones]

I don't think relesing both Dawnguard and hearthfire on the same date as third Dlc is good move to make ps 3 happy.
It would literly look like this ,
Hey all fans here have this new dlc, ...and yeah ps 3 you can also have this barerly working, and late two dlcs just give us money for it.

[adame]

Waitwait. Wasn't 1.6 supposed to be the almost-there preparation patch? And the ps3-dlc menu is being added now? In other words, Beth knew already then they were [censored]ting ps3 owners over? That's kinda rotten. Dawnguard for ps3 wasn't even planned for 30 days post Xbox dlc release. Scumbaggery..

[Ludivine Poussineau]

I agree vampire attacks should be nothing.

I don't agree with that if they realese the two old DLC with the new one will make people happy. Then why did they lie in saying no prgress has been made when clearly it must have if they know it's going to be realesed with the new.

Well yes i do agree that if this happens theres going to be alot of questions for bethesda. for me i think theres some people who just want the dlc & would be happy to get it & more.
or maybe thats just me at this point, because this has been going on long enough & i just want the dlcs.

[Kortniie Dumont]

Bethesda are a bunch of noobs. They can't even make a game right for the PS3 so they have to call Sony for help. Pathetic.

Yes, I'm angry. I paid 60 euros for the game and it barely works, and stutters all the time. Still, it's a fun game and plays a lot better than on my lousy laptop.

[Miss K]

Well yes i do agree that if this happens theres going to be alot of questions for bethesda. for me i think theres some people who just want the dlc & would be happy to get it & more.
or maybe thats just me at this point.

Ya I think 50/50 in terms poeple just want the DLC no bother.

[Lovingly]

Thats what my point was, christmas release, in November people have more time & on christmas you can wrap up dlc its called a psn card.
A: i have a feeling either way if dawnguard is released we will be hearing alot of complaints about vampire attacks. ( for me i face ancident dragons in citys like whiterun with no body dieing so vampires would be easy i think. )
B: i see it as it would be a good business move, the ps3 users are angry how do you make them happy? release the new dlc & the 2 old dlc at the same time.
but thats just my opinion.

@A - i've been trying my best to keep my knowledge of the DLC contents as low as possible, but i cant not see every bit of info. From what i've read, its not so much the vampire attacks that are the problem; its the way the game will have them occur when you the player are no where near them.

EX-You come back to town to unload all the jink you got in say your latest foray into Blackreach and and find half the town dead from Vamp attack while you were away,

Your character can be a a demigod later in the game, but you can't protect a town if you aren't there.

[Dale Johnson]

When I get my PS3 fixed from the Yellow Light of Death, then Dawnguard has my permission to come. Until then, I am happy it's delayed.

[Charlotte X]

@A - i've been trying my best to keep my knowledge of the DLC contents as low as possible, but i cant not see every bit of info. From what i've read, its not so much the vampire attacks that are the problem; its the way the game will have them occur when you the player are no where near them.

EX-You come back to town to unload all the jink you got in say your latest foray into Blackreach and and find half the town dead from Vamp attack while you were away,

Your character can be a a demigod later in the game, but you can't protect a town if you aren't there.

Well i can see that being a huge problem. like you i haven't read anything on Dawnguard or heartfire, for me so i'm surpised what i find in it.

[Myles]

Bethesda are a bunch of noobs. They can't even make a game right for the PS3 so they have to call Sony for help. Pathetic.

Actually I think Bethesda sent DG to Sony and rejected and Sony stepped in to sort out the mess so MS doesn't win with Skyrim. I think this because Bethesda had no problem realesing a full game with "tech issus" why not a DLC.

[Emily abigail Villarreal]

@A - i've been trying my best to keep my knowledge of the DLC contents as low as possible, but i cant not see every bit of info. From what i've read, its not so much the vampire attacks that are the problem; its the way the game will have them occur when you the player are no where near them. EX-You come back to town to unload all the jink you got in say your latest foray into Blackreach and and find half the town dead from Vamp attack while you were away, Your character can be a a demigod later in the game, but you can't protect a town if you aren't there.

Well i can see that being a huge problem. like you i haven't read anything on Dawnguard or heartfire, for me so i'm surpised what i find in it.

That was only a rumour the vampires wont attack towns unless you are in them or fast travel to them. They are just like dragon attacks. So no worries everyone.

[Danger Mouse]

When I get my PS3 fixed from the Yellow Light of Death, then Dawnguard has my permission to come. Until then, I am happy it's delayed.

What causes the yellow light of death becaue my fatty is five years old and I think it might be on it's last legs.

[Ebou Suso]

That was only a rumour the vampires wont attack towns unless you are in them or fast travel to them. They are just like dragon attacks. So no worries everyone.

Well i can only go by word of mouth as i dont have Dawnguard, but i still buy that it could happen. On one of my many save games, i exited a dungeon just in time to see Shadowmere die from being attacked by two dragons and a bear simultaneously. And it wasn't like i ditched inside a dungeon to get away from them either, there was nothing chasing me at all when i left Shadowmere outside and then BOOM he was dying as i exited.