[Sista Sila]

the developers at bethesda game studios almost never read these forums. so its safe to say they will never read this. And if you really wanted them to see this message you should have sent them an email or letter directly. However, Original poster, you did not make this thread because you want the developers to see this. You made it because your not happy with having to wait, so your trying to rally other people in these forums to agree with you and not buy the DLC. Or something like that, but its all in fuetility. If you really have something to say to the developers then click on the "contact us" link and send them a piece of your mind via email. But stop trying to stoke fan rage on these forums.

No, you're right actually. I know it sounds stupid, but I actually didn't consider mailing them directly an option. Sorry, I don't actually give feedback like this very often.

I'm not really trying to 'stoke fan rage' honestly, I just figured that if devs do lurk around here, they'd count my voice among the seditious. After all, what's a better way for them to know what their fans are thinking?

I'll take your advice and send a message to them directly though, so thanks for the tip.

[Andrew Perry]

so if you had a debt of approximately 50 million dollars and one company offered you some where near 5 million dollars for 30 days of exclusivity, you would choose to keep at least 5 million dollars worth of debt to keep an impatient minority happy?

why should bethesda risk themselves financially for people who become enraged when they have to wait a little longer because the developer has to FINISH the product.

if any thing i would say they are learning their lesson from the release date, in which they refused to push the date back to fix existing bugs so that they could keep the 11.11.11 release date, and now they are taking their time so that they release a proper patch for the game.

In your own post here you may have spotted the difference between dev and publisher, the bit they hold back to release a better product is dev driven and the 11.11.11 bit is all down to those greedy bastards the publishers.
You now realising the difference between the two and how each operates in different manners, unfortunately for us the publisher is the man running the show.
Which makes the current lack of news or swift DLC release strange as the money in my account waiting to transfer to theirs for the DLC is earning me interest and not them.
So they are also [censored] at business as well as making bug free games.

If you got yourself into 50 million debt, you seriously need to start asking yourself where you went so horribly wrong and if a company is good enough for M$ to invest their precious cash in, why not a bank do it instead and keep all the platforms happy?

[Benji]

If you got yourself into 50 million debt, you seriously need to start asking yourself where you went so horribly wrong and if a company is good enough for M$ to invest their precious cash in, why not a bank do it instead and keep all the platforms happy?

they get into debt because they spend 4-5 years developing a product without a source of income, and rely on repaying the debt with the revenues they collect after the game is released.

I hate exclusive deals just as much as every one else, but i don't accuse the developers of trying to screw the fans over completely when there is a delay in expected release because they're spending more time coding than what was expected.

and this current delay has nothing to do with publishers, the delay is dependent upon the 1.7 update which is not yet finished. Right now as we speak they are busting their asses trying to get this ready while some people are accusing them of purposefully with holding content and raging because they have to wait a few days or possibly a week or two.

[lillian luna]

Regardless, this whole thing will come down to interest at the time for me. If I'm still interested and not playing other games-I will buy. Am I upset? A little. Does it matter? No way. Should it matter? Don't care. Business is business. My interest at this point has waned and I will play other games. The time when Dawnguard is released for PS3/PC we'll see where I am insofar as gaming priorities are concerned. No harm no foul.

But man, I really wanted it to be today

[Kellymarie Heppell]

Woah there. I have 19 posts, you have 4.5k. Obviously I am new here...So how does this little insult of yours work? I'm new...But I spend too much time here? Huh?

Also, insults are a sure sign of a reasonable, level headed argument. True fact.

Actually, it wasn't an insult. So slow down. What I was merely getting at is that Beth has done this since Fallout 3. It's honestly nothing new and not all that much of a big deal.

[Fam Mughal]

Actually, it wasn't an insult. So slow down. What I was merely getting at is that Beth has done this since Fallout 3. It's honestly nothing new and not all that much of a big deal.

Eh in my honest opinion if a game goes multiplatform the DLC should release at the same time. Well this is not a perfect world so that will never happen.

[Jani Eayon]

Thank you for your opinion. Even if it is wrong.

[matt]

Dawnguard was a disappointment to me for a different reason. It's a vampire centric dlc. Well, guess what? Vampire still svck...completely. It also adds quite a few bugs. Yay! It also fails to fix any bugs involving vampires that were there before Dawnguard. Another yay! It also breaks the lore of vampires, specifically Cyrodiil and Volkihar. Good job Bethesda! Thumbs up to you!

[Annick Charron]

Guys. Guys why. ;n;

[JeSsy ArEllano]

they get into debt because they spend 4-5 years developing a product without a source of income, and rely on repaying the debt with the revenues they collect after the game is released.

I hate exclusive deals just as much as every one else, but i don't accuse the developers of trying to screw the fans over completely when there is a delay in expected release because they're spending more time coding than what was expected.

and this current delay has nothing to do with publishers, the delay is dependent upon the 1.7 update which is not yet finished. Right now as we speak they are busting their asses trying to get this ready while some people are accusing them of purposefully with holding content and raging because they have to wait a few days or possibly a week or two.

Ok, I see some merit in your point of view, but here's the problem.

It's been 30 days.
They've filled their obligation to Microsoft, and we can safely assume they've been compensated for it.
We've waited patiently, and even though I have a strong distaste for exclusive content, I was still willing to dish out the dough because I actually do like the game and I realize that sometimes compromises have to be made.

But I still can't buy it. I can't buy it because basically...Uhh...Who knows?.

I would have bought it first thing if it actually came out today, and I believe we PC/PS3 players have been quite patient in the matter. I know they're not obligated to provide it or anything...But if they say 30 days, well...They should take the necessary measures to have it ready in 30 days. I mean, the original game was a simultaneous release on all consoles right? If they could pull that off, surely they could do the same with 20-50 hour DLC pack. Especially well after they've made their profits from the vanilla sales.

But now it's officially 30 days, and no one has any clue whether or not it's coming out within the next month!

Don't misunderstand my complaint here. We have to wait 30 days? Fine.
30 days come, and Beth just shrugs their shoulders? Not fine.

[Lexy Corpsey]

Am I going to buy Dawnguard? Maybe. If so, Is my anus going to feel violated? Yes.

The question is: am I going to be fine with that? Does anyone?

[Esther Fernandez]

Me personally, I would tell M$ to go [censored] themselves, in fact I think they should anyway, as I have been through enough experiences in life to realise money ain't the be all and end all.
Most people find that out to late in life though, governments and institutions love these people as they keep the meat grinders churning.

I find this extremely funny Money is probably one of the most important things in life if not the most important. If you don't agree you can donate me your money and then I'd like to see you live without it.

Anyway, I don't really care about that 30 day exclusive deal and stuff like that since the dlc just gets beta-tested more in my opinion. What I do hate is that they don't communicate with us. We just receive silence. Is a simple release date or a period of release for the dlc for PS3 or PC too much to ask?

[Isaac Saetern]

i think the only thing thats killing me is wether thereyre gonna release it at all, i have plenty of games to play, but have stopped playing skyrim cuz i was hopin the dlc would be released soon, then i wouldnt be annoyed too much, i mean its not that great so i hear anyway

[Harry Hearing]

so if you had a debt of approximately 50 million dollars and one company offered you some where near 5 million dollars for 30 days of exclusivity, you would choose to keep at least 5 million dollars worth of debt to keep an impatient minority happy?

why should bethesda risk themselves financially for people who become enraged when they have to wait a little longer because the developer has to FINISH the product.

if any thing i would say they are learning their lesson from the release date, in which they refused to push the date back to fix existing bugs so that they could keep the 11.11.11 release date, and now they are taking their time so that they release a proper patch for the game.

Amen brother. People need to take off their rose tinted glasses.

[Sam Parker]

Am I going to buy Dawnguard? Maybe. If so, Is my anus going to feel violated? Yes. The question is: am I going to be fine with that? Does anyone?

made me laugh, im not sure if i ill feel my anus hole has been violated by bethesda, just groped a little

[Kill Bill]

As I said on another thread; It's quite likely that as a studio Bethesda/Zenimax have protocol regarding the release of information - i.e, not allowed to until all the necessary loops have been jumped through. As a result, they cannot make an announcement. Now, obviously it would be sensible to make preparations in advance, however it was likely a clause of the exclusivity deal that they were simply not allowed to make plans for a release on other platforms until exclusivity was up. That means they've now only just entered the planning stage. This will likely take at least a few days simply due to paperwork.

It is awful, but I think the devs are trying to release this. If no plans are announced in 3 days then I'll agree something is very wrong.

[Laura Wilson]

I find this extremely funny Money is probably one of the most important things in life if not the most important. If you don't agree you can donate me your money and then I'd like to see you live without it.

Anyway, I don't really care about that 30 day exclusive deal and stuff like that since the dlc just gets beta-tested more in my opinion. What I do hate is that they don't communicate with us. We just receive silence. Is a simple release date or a period of release for the dlc for PS3 or PC too much to ask?

Off topic, but I have to say it. Money is only important, because humans say it's important. No other reason. Humans could easily live without money, but the human species isn't really designed to help someone without getting something in return. That's where money comes in.

For an on topic post please look for my other post before this one.

[Ebony Lawson]

Enjoy your RMAH, that if you want it or not is a core "feature" of the game,



Obese cute pandas who love eat vs Industrial steampukish brutal tribe of savage looking overgrown horned tigers

http://www.playpc.pl/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/guild-wars-2-charr-warrior.jpg vs http://www.wowpedia.org/images/thumb/8/88/Pandaren_early_in-game.jpg/800px-Pandaren_early_in-game.jpg

I was referring to Khajiit. And I think the Pandas look good, the cartoon look is just WoWs style, so of course they'd look cute and silly.

[Tania Bunic]

BC was probably their best expac. Though I did like WOTLK (only because of the lore). After that the game fell off a cliff. The real sad thing about Warcraft, is that is used to be a very social game. Now, despite it being a MMO cross realms everything has turned the social part of the game into trash. There's no soul left in that game. And the shrinking player base proves my point.

It's hasn't gone below 10.2 million for a long time. I stopped shrinking awhile ago, nice try though.

[Sarah Bishop]

Let's do a Skyrim Khajiit comparison too.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4599uoibd1qcu3vno1_500.jpg vs http://pinoytutorial.com/techtorial/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/mists_of_pandaria_high_res_pic.jpg.


No contest.

Yes lets.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6AbQTt1CA9c/TlknmZC0eEI/AAAAAAAABFU/KUcbO7L4u2I/s1600/khajiit.jpg Vs http://www.blizzplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/Pandaren-Concept1.jpg

NO CONTEST!!111

See, I can do it too.

[Kirsty Wood]

Yes lets.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6AbQTt1CA9c/TlknmZC0eEI/AAAAAAAABFU/KUcbO7L4u2I/s1600/khajiit.jpg Vs http://www.blizzplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/Pandaren-Concept1.jpg

NO CONTEST!!111

See, I can do it too.

No you can't. Because you are comparing an older game in the series to concept art for a game that is coming out soon.

[Ymani Hood]

No you can't. Because you are comparing an older game in the series to concept art for a game that is coming out soon.

and you're comparing a modded Khajiit to a un modded Pandaren.

[Hearts]

At least Blizzard fixes and releases working games. That's enough for me to leave tbh.

Diablo 3

yep made an account just for that

[Kellymarie Heppell]

Diablo 3

yep made an account just for that

I'm not interested in Diablo. I was talking about WoW. Also how was Diablo bugged? To my knowledge they just had issues with their servers.

[sam smith]

I'm not interested in Diablo. I was talking about WoW. Also how was Diablo bugged? To my knowledge they just had issues with their servers.

no, you said Blizz released working games. Diablo 3 didnt work for hundreds of thousands..... for weeks. you said nothing about bugs.