I'm really disappointed that 4 out the six light armor perks (found here http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1249457-light-armor-perks/ ) require that you wear a full set of light armor in order for them to take effect. I always mix my light armor with clothes and never wear helmets, which makes the majority of the perks useless to me, it restricts customization options from you which what TES is all about imo. I think it would be much better if the perks only restricted the use of heavy armor, instead of them requiring you to wear light armor on every place possible.What are your thoughts? Do you like them? Dislike them? Don't Care?

Dislike. You even have to wear a helm!
I too was planning on mixing light armor and clothing.

To actually discuss this at length we shoudl be in the spoiler forum >_>

wait you want them to only restrict heavy armor because you like light armor?
perk system is bad!!!!!

well i like helmets personally but i think more games like this that have helmets and such should include options to make the helmet invisible but it still have the advantages of being there.

Perks are a completely new system that offer us more damage, new animations, and variety to our characters. How can you be disappointed in something EXTRA?

Plate mail FTW, Unorthadox knight for life!

yeah I personally never liked light armor... I would rather wear regular clothes than light armor.

Hey look another "I am disappointed" thread.

Is it unhealthy to look at every issue and think "Heh, mods"?

Um...no they aren't......other than being manual and incorporating What skills should already be doing no...they aren't anything extra because without them there would be nothing in terms of making your character.

well thats the problem with every armor except clothing and robes, i think the balance is good between the armor feats, dont want benifits? dont wear helmets, ill play a mage and dont give a [censored] about dem dum armor types

Get over it. Makes it more realistic having to wear a full set.

Um.. Only one of those perks requires a full set of matching armor (matching set). Another requires a mix-matched set of armor (custom set). The others can be used even if you only wear a light helmet.

I meant heavy armor should be the only restiction for the light armor perks to activate.

I don't get it, first realism is bad, then its good only when it suites you huh ;p

because they dont actually offer anything extra? perks are just a different system to give you the same end results(with more restrictions).
how is less options to the armor you wear more variety?
the only way the perks system offers more variety is if you cheated the level up system to maximize your attributes. i took many characters through oblivion and never had 2 of them end up with the same attributes.

ok sorry for misunderstanding

Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed too. I'll also fond of mixing armor and clothing, and sometimes armor types, and this all heavy or all light obsession they have is a disappointment to me as well. That, and the primary heavy/light tradeoff seems to be protection vs bonus fatigue regeneration... without knowing the role of fatigue it's hard to say for sure, but it doesn't sound good so far.

I like em, but there nothing special, i care more about the actual light armor itself.

I never said they all require a matching set, I said they all require a full set (as in you must wear light armor on every place you can), so you can't choose to not wear anything like helmets or gauntlets, which is what I find disappointing. As I stated in my OP, I never wear helmets or often mix them with pieces that have no armor rating (and therefore shouldn't restrict things like stamina regen preks)

Before perks, the only thing we could do was level attributes. Every level we were given points to distribute. After distributing them, we received an intangible increase to something- speed, strength(damage), sneak, etc. They were only numbers, but necessary to increase your skill and utilize restricted items in the game (spells, weapons, etc).

Perks don't just add extra damage. They add additional ABILITIES. Skills never did that. Some of those abilities add additional gameplay animations. Skills never did that either. Perks are also limited, meaning you can only take so many so you have to strategize and choose a path for your character. Skills never did that either- you could max them all by paying a trainer.

You want to try and argue that again?

I have to agree with the OP... sometimes you just want to go into battle with style, say Hircine's vest, some black velvet trousers, some boots and nothing else. It's a bit of a bummer when caution compels you to stick a damm tin bucket on your head for the sake of a combat bonus. Hopefully there's a perk for sartorial minimalism... either that or switch to 1st person.

Maybe the statement "if wearing all light armor" could be taken to mean that you can't wear heavy armor. Every piece of armor you wear must be light (or less). So if you're missing the gloves or something you'll still be ok with the perk?

That's my take as well. I doubt they would penalize you for not wearing an armor. Swapping out for the wrong type, however...

just like in Oblivion...