I am convinced you must have a mouse issue
To move the models all I do is move the mouse cursor over the image on the right hand side of the screen and roll the mousewheel forward, once that is done you can hold the LMB and move the mouse to rotate the object.

Simples!

PS I had no problems during character creation like you describe

No they haven't. Consoles have been taking more and more of the market share every year. And with piracy being a much bigger issue with PC games, I can't see developers wanting to stay in there. There's more money to be made with consoles. Making games is a business like any other.

Reviews were done on the console versions... Duh.

Even the so called "PC Reviews" were done on consoles with only a few hours devoted to the PC, and only a few paragraphs(by few I mean one).

Once Metacritic starts accepting PC User Reviews you'll see 70's across the board...

This game was "pirated" for Xbox over a week ago, one week before the PC version even had it's uncracked version up... Don't give me that piss poor lame excuse.

There's a reason why they have the market share... Idiots buying inferior products and not voting with their wallets.

You still have Blizzard though... One of the few companies left devoted at least for now to the PC gaming crowd. And Blizz seems to be doing quite well money wise.

My Xbox froze 2 times playing it already. That's about the biggest issue I have encountered.

The UI and control scheme feels rather odd to me but it's not exactly game breaking.

I think some FOV tweaks and mouse sensitivity tweaks/mods/patches would help alot though.

I have removed several platform/console bashing, bickering near flaming posts and ask that you not to do that.

I may have missed some as I did not take the time to go through the entire thread. If so, feel free to report the post but do not quote and flame back or flamebait because if you do, I'll not be so forgiving the next time and warnings will be issued.

Not to be contrary, but I'll play pc games until they don't make them anymore. It's what I grew up on and it's a deeper experience for me personally. My kids love their xbox on the 65in plasma and their controller. They've tried to get me to love it and I just feel so disconnected from the game. Even with a big TV, I feel so far from the action. Not sure if that will resonate with everyone, but for me, the two are just a very different. With that, I'll say, I completely understand and appreciate the fans for both. They both have their plusses and minuses. To their credit, they did enjoy playing Oblivion far more on the PC than on the 360, but I think that was mostly due to FCOM, bc they had it for console and PC, but quickly lost interest in the one on the console. Only real difference were the mods.

Well, I guess we will all find out later tonight and after the next day or three , eh?
I'll be smoking Skrim PC dust later tonight If I do not pass out before 12 midnight.

I don't trust 'pro' reviewers either. They have got it wrong many times before and are subject to being bought out.
Metacritic is loaded with vermin 'pro' game reviewers not worth a rats behind of time. You see them rate up poor games all the time, not saying
that is the case here though.

Of the ones I'd consider fairly trustworthy it would take less than one hand to count them off.

I'll comment, but I'll also post a disclaimer first:

A) I never play TES games on anything except the PC, I haven't played it yet (waiting until midnight), C) More often than not people who take the time to post negative things on forums are not representative of the bulk of players.

That being said, as a PC gamer, I'm highly disappointed in the trend many companies are taking to make certain PC epics more playable on consoles and ruining the experience for those like me who have seen what games can really achieve on the PC platform. I don't think the game will be bad at all, and I'm not "one of those guys" who looks down on console players, I own a PS3 and play it often. I remember when DA2 came out I just rolled my eyes at all the hate Bioware received for "dumbing down" their game in favor of making it more console accessible. The truth is, that game has no lasting effects on many of its buyers like DAO did, mostly because DAO was built for the PC and then adapted to console. Some will say it wasn't, but it was.

I love what Skyrim seems to be offering, mostly because I felt leveling and min/maxing in Oblivion was more of a job than fun. I love the idea of perk systems being adapted into the realm of Tamriel, but if the UI is clunky and obviously designed in favor of the console playerbase, I will be upset, especially if they don't patch it QUICKLY. All this bloviating aside, I haven't played it yet, and I get the feeling that it isn't as bad as some nerds are making it out to be. I'll post again once I've kicked some butt in-game.

People! When did Bethesda ever release a good game? Daggerfall, almost 20 years after release is a buggy nightmare. The modders of our fair planet make Bethesda what it is. Wait for them to take this game and truly make it great!!!!

I said it was a bigger issue with PC, not that it wasn't an issue at all with XBox. Learn to read. You have to modify your XBox to play pirated games, which results in your XBox being permanently banned from XBox Live. A lot of people were permanently banned from XBox Live two years ago for playing pirated versions of Modern Warfare 2.

Inferior in what way? They both give their users what they want, so can you say one is inferior than the other? Is a Timex watch inferior to a Rolex watch? It depends what you want in a watch.

And your love affair with Blizzard will die in due time. They are already planning on releasing Diablo 3 on PS3 and XBox. It's only a matter of time until they see the benefit of going only console and are like every other gaming company out there, especially since they are owned by Activision. Shareholders care about only one thing - money.

Interface take a couple of minutes getting used to, main issue is that sometimes like in character creation or setup where you have sliders you has to center slider vertically before you can move it. Stupid console adaption.
Other places like inventory you can use mouse and click.

Two very practical issues, how do I set that I want to switch between bow and axe and shield, if I by mistake equipped an two hand weapon it will not give me shield then switching.
Is it a way to unhitch arrows, right click don't work.

After reading some of the negative comments, I got out my controller and hooked it up to Fallout New Vegas and tried playing and I just hated it. I'm so used to K&M now that I don't want to switch back. Thanks for the balanced comments on this thread...I feel better now having read them. Whatever the controls are, I'll get used to them. I never thought I'd be able to play with K&M but I learned. Can't wait until I have the game tomorrow.

If they did the controls for the PC like they did for Fallout 3 or New Vegas, I'll be just fine and dandy with skyrim, but if it's as bad as some are making it out to be, I'll be a very sad camper indeed.

For the price of a AAA title, I expect the developers to take the time necessary to put in a proper keyboard & mouse control system, anything less than that is criminal in my opinion.

Navigating the PC UI is not what people are making it out to be. You can navigate every menu in the game quickly and efficiently with one hand. One.

Too bad it's not the hand that is on your mouse...

Gee...good thing I have a wired 360 controller for that nice bridge between console and PC. A smooth experience with a comfy controller...now I just need a better monitor, sigh.

It's not exactly a game breaker or anything, but I'd say it's definitely worse than Borderlands.

Okay, I have a problem with this. At first I thought you just had a bad time handling the menu becuase Console Port. Okay, that's fine. That's an issue. Now you're saying that, even if the menu is very easy and fluid to use, it still svcks because it's not used with the mouse. I do happen to know that some menus also use the mouse, if not most.

Proof taken from a friend currently playing:

Oh the rage that the Borderland UI, options and mouse controls gave to me... I specifically loved when they left in 360 controller commands in the PC version. You'd have no controller enabled or selected but it would tell you hit Right Trigger or X or etc.

Also remember Gearbox saying Borderlands would have a PC Oriented Mouse Intuitive Interface... What a crock of [censored].

I don't know if it's worse than Borderlands... But it's damn close. The FoV issues and .ini tweak are surprisingly similar though, along with with FoV resetting itself after certain screen loads.


Let me rephrase... You can use your mouse in the menus, sometimes. But 1 hand, how do you expect to press, Enter, Tab, Y or N at the same time. Maybe if you have a tail it's possible.

I enjoy it. After 2 hours of playing, didn't noticed ANY bug. And the game feels better than Oblivion and Morrowind. So it's good.

Just played for a bit as the game was released on steam 5 hours ago here.

I love the game so far.
But yes, the PC UI could be quite a lot better. Sure, it's perfectly managable, but it's very odd and I believe Bethesda should have handled it better.
For example even the sliders are hard to operate... Not to mention scrolling down in options (for instance Eye features when making your character) has to be done 1 by 1, you can't simple click on "Eye Colour" and it takes you there, you have to go through "Eye Shadow" and other options first.
Just giving examples here

But the thing I was initially worried about is perfectly fine, the size of the letters when getting a skill up.

The UI could be a nightmare and I would care less because it will get modded in 1-2 weeks.

No you can't, speaking from experience. Or, it's possible that you are experiencing one thing and others another. Clicking in the base menu lists doesn't do anything on my end, and keyboard is required to make selections.

Don't speak on other peoples' behalf.

Mouse acceleration IS enabled in your version, and if you checked your ini file you'd discover this. You don't know what you're talking about. Period. Your lack of ability to perceive that mouse acceleration is in effect puts your whole post in perspective.

V-Sync is causing a lot of people issues. It caused me very delayed mouse movement, an issue that various other console ports suffer from.

FOV is not fine. Your opinion is invalid here. It is not fine. 70 FOV is not fine, in any game, period.

I have mine maxed, and it still isn't enough.

Looks like you're the troll here.

I agree that people should ignore your whole post.