Skyrim based on LOTR films?

Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:29 pm

Everything was inspired by something before it. Skyrim is inspired by a lot of things, not just LOTR.

Yes, Skyrim did borrow some stuff from LOTR. Just look at Whiterun. They didn't all get that from Norse Mythology, they got that from LOTR. Just look at the design of the place. It looks almost exactly like Edoras. Also, the green tree of Whiterun? Come on...

Hey, there is nothing wrong with that. Diablo 3 borrowed from LOTR too. The "Golden City" looks a lot like the White City of Gondor.

Yeah and LoTR was inspired by Norse and Anglo saxon culture (IE Norse culture), so that's kinda cart before the horse there. And last I checked, there wasn't horse motifs all over Whiterun like in the art from the movies.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:43 pm

Oh my Talos, not again.

Tolkien borrowed heavily from Norse mythology and culture in his depiction of Rohan. Bethesda has always drawn heavily from Norse mythology and culture for its depiction of Skyrim and the Nords. The similarities are the result of similar source material, not the result of Bethesda "copying" Tolkien.
Indeed. Like the Nords Rohan is very similar to the norse people and culture of scandinavia, just with horses as a much more intergrated part of their society.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:14 pm

Aside from some of the music I think Skyrim has more in common with the Conan movies than it does LOTR.

ESPECIALLY the accents!!
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:02 pm

But wouldn't it be more interesting to talk about how things are different and new, rather than old and tired? I don't recall Theoden ever trapping a dragon in his palace by dropping a huge harness on its neck.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:31 pm

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Edoras
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SR-place-Whiterun.jpg

Just compare the 2 pics side by side. Not the same. Theres a city, and a hill, and mountains. But the city doesnt look the same, the hill doesnt look the same, and the mountains dont look the same.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:51 am

A lot of fantasy games/books/films are gonna be inspired by the greatest fantasy story of all time

i have not seen a game/film/other books based on the wheel of time :ohmy: you must tell me where i can find the game/movie!!

anyway, i cant see musch insperation other than things that show bethesda knows enough to put cities in defendable areas (whiterun is a pretty common sight in every game, it has nothign to do with lotr, it is just an easy to defend spot in some scenarios) and bethesda has races (elves are not lotr, orcs are not lotr, falmer are sure as hell not lotr, nords are not lotr, these are all common races in fantasy so im not seeing anything that is lotr here), the elven armoru may be an allusion to lotr though, thats about it
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:26 am

While many elements in Skyrim are borrowed from LoTR many are not. For example, in The Eaters of the Dead a character named Ragnar has his head chopped off. This made me laugh out loud when I reread it receintly.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:20 am

I thought the Lord of the Rings movies copied from WoW. :blink:
/sarcasm
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:26 am

i have not seen a game/film/other books based on the wheel of time :ohmy: you must tell me where i can find the game/movie!!

anyway, i cant see musch insperation other than things that show bethesda knows enough to put cities in defendable areas (whiterun is a pretty common sight in every game, it has nothign to do with lotr, it is just an easy to defend spot in some scenarios) and bethesda has races (elves are not lotr, orcs are not lotr, falmer are sure as hell not lotr, nords are not lotr, these are all common races in fantasy so im not seeing anything that is lotr here), the elven armoru may be an allusion to lotr though, thats about it

You gotta be kidding :facepalm:

A story needs an ending - does "As the Wheel Turns? have an ending?

Robert Jordan wrote a few good books in the series, he also wrote some of the worst crap ever written, and it's in the same series of books.

Actually, on a scale of 1 to 10, the ratings for the individual books are approximated by the equation 10-(book number)^1.2
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:43 am

Because Tolkien's elves are short cannibals with mohawks and completely black eyes? You should check the label on your game disk to make sure you didn't load up Dungeon Siege.
ummm, he said wood elves? you are thinking of the snow elves... -.-
I have yet to see a bosmer nomming on some human flesh..
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:11 am



i have not seen a game/film/other books based on the wheel of time :ohmy: you must tell me where i can find the game/movie!!


Here you go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time_(video_game)
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:59 am

edit : though now that I think about it, LOTR may be based a bit on Morrowind :wink_smile:

I need your dealers, number. Right. Now. :tongue:
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:01 am

ummm, he said wood elves? you are thinking of the snow elves... -.-
I have yet to see a bosmer nomming on some human flesh..
bosmer are canabalistic barbarians

You gotta be kidding :facepalm:

A story needs an ending - does "As the Wheel Turns? have an ending?

Robert Jordan wrote a few good books in the series, he also wrote some of the worst crap ever written, and it's in the same series of books.

Actually, on a scale of 1 to 10, the ratings for the individual books are approximated by the equation 10-(book number)^1.2

the wheel of time beats lord of the rings anyday, but you have a point about the ending
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:18 pm

Here you go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time_(video_game)

that looks like a truly pathetic game, entirely appropriate for the books
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:45 am

Lord of the Rings has inspired a lot of games, films, and books but in the end Lord of the rings was based off of inspiration from older tails, and civilizations itself. every story borrows from others we still do it today. I would say there are similarities between Skyrim the game and The Lord of the Rings (wither you want to base it on the books or films I would personally put the similarities to the books rather than the films because the films don't cover everything in the books and things were added to the films that weren't in the books). Regardless of wither there was or not I don't think the OP meant this topic to be a flame war and I am disappointed that so many people have wrote negative things about this. He didn't suggest that Bethesda stole anything or was unoriginal. All he said was in his opinion he sees similarities between the two there's no reason to get on his case for that.
All stories are based off of other stories even the great ones such as star wars were heavily based off of old tails. I see some similarities between the two but in the end Skyrim is its own story. And this is coming from a hardcoe Tolkien fan.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:59 pm

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the wheel of time beats lord of the rings anyday, but you have a point about the ending

:shakehead:

troll
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:33 pm

:shakehead:

troll

Lol, that's what I figured. :biggrin:
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:57 pm

:shakehead:

troll

unlike yourself, nope, not a troll, just a person with an opinion. never understood why people think lotr is so good, it is not that good (maybe i should read the books? i know movies are never as good as the book but the movie did not inspire any desire to read the books)
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:32 am

Okay so are you talking films or books here? Elder Scrolls as a series existed long before the movies came out. So most of the stuff you say they took ideas from the movie, were in past games, making this impossible. Secondly, it is widely accepted that most fantasy games are infulenced by the BOOKS since Tolkien is the man who greatly popularized the fantasy genre.

Moria orcs are VERY similar to the falmer!

Falmer = Goblinds from Oblivion in this game. They have their lore of being snow elves, but we all know they were goblin fillers.

Whiterun is almost identical to Edoras (and Rohan), it's on top of a hill in the middle of a vegetated field ect.
The designs in Whiterun are identical to the designs on the swords and building of Rohan
Looking from the side at Whiterun you can see mountains in the background just like the films

And Whiterun looks like other Norse buildings too, since Tolkien did use a lot of real life mythology to write his book.


The wood elves could be based on the ones from the films and books

Again as my opening statement, these existed before the movie, so its really not possible...

The stone carvings/designs in Dwemer ruins are exact to the Dwarven ones in the films

Man you must have like the extra special one of a kind edition or something. I don't remember them looking anything alike, nor do I remember the dwarves living in towns ran off of steam power.... Also you know dwarves of the Elder Scrolls are more akin to Elves then they are anything else right? They weren't short guys with big beards.

The elven armour is exactly the same as the films, except the colours!

Okay... How does http://images.wikia.com/elderscrolls/images/c/c9/3588-1-1323809267.jpg look anything likehttp://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/LOTR_Fell004_Battle.jpg?
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:25 am

unlike yourself, nope, not a troll, just a person with an opinion. never understood why people think lotr is so good, it is not that good (maybe i should read the books? i know movies are never as good as the book but the movie did not inspire any desire to read the books)

Well the movies themselves are friggin epic but the books are probably still better (though LOTR is one of the best screen-adaptations ever made). However, none of this is anything compared to his earlier works (Children of Hurin, Silmarillion etc.).
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:40 am

I'd like to think that Skyrim is based off LOTR too, but then again, LOTR is also based on something else before its creation. :smile:
J.R. Tolkien, the author of the books "Lord of The Rings" for those who do not know him, served in the British Army and fought in World War I. A lot of his work seems to reflect his experience he made during this war. After the war did he become a professor of the English language. I believe that this combination is what made his books such a success.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:14 am

J.R. Tolkien, the author of the books "Lord of The Rings" for those who do not know him, served in the British Army and fought in World War I. A lot of his work seems to reflect his experience he made during this war. After the war did he become a professor of the English language. I believe that this combination is what made his books such a success.

Yup, scenes like the Battle of Unnumbered Tears are based off WWI tactics.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:32 am

unlike yourself, nope, not a troll, just a person with an opinion. never understood why people think lotr is so good, it is not that good (maybe i should read the books? i know movies are never as good as the book but the movie did not inspire any desire to read the books)
so you're comparing a book series that is not finished, and contains some of the worst crap ever put down on paper (have you actually read book # 7, or #8 ?????) to a movie adaptation of LotR - which adaptation I rate 4 stars (out of 5) only on days I'm feeling generous. Which movie omitted approx 20% of the book, and was way too "Hollywood" over the top in a lot of special effects

edit : and if you only saw the theatrical release, not the extended edition dvd release,make that 30% of the book omitted. The Two Towers in particular was a muddled abortion in the theater version!

your opinion is based on ....very incomplete knowledge ....and so is pretty much worthless.

LotR: read the books.

ps "As the Wheel Turns" is the sarcastic name many people give the book series, based on it's similarities to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_the_World_Turns
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:33 am

I have been meaning to post this for a while and now I've got all the examples I can find I will post! I'm sure other people have realised this and I'm sorry if it's already been posted, but has anyone else noticed Skyrim is based on the LOTR films?

Examples:

Moria orcs are VERY similar to the falmer!
Whiterun is almost identical to Edoras (and Rohan), it's on top of a hill in the middle of a vegetated field ect.
The designs in Whiterun are identical to the designs on the swords and building of Rohan
Looking from the side at Whiterun you can see mountains in the background just like the films
The wood elves could be based on the ones from the films and books
The stone carvings/designs in Dwemer ruins are exact to the Dwarven ones in the films
--EDIT--
The elven armour is exactly the same as the films, except the colours!
ALSO NOTE: I didn't mean based 100%, i just mean they must have taken a lot of ideas from the LOTR films :smile:

Thats all I've got onmy mind now but I'll probably remember the other few later, if you guys have any comment please! :smile:
You're not a very observant person I assume. According to you, there are 3 perfect replicas from LOTR. Even though the LOTR films only showed Moria, and your saying Dwemer Ruins are replicas of Moria. And if Falmer are Orcs, then hell, EVERY ORC was stolen from LOTR. LOL. Falmer are pretty orc like creatures, but that has absolutely NOTHING to do with LOTR. Also, theyre more like Goblins than orcs.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:13 am

Beth has been influenced by Tolkien. They said that long time ago.
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