Is Skyrim A True Open RPG? : V - Skyrim

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:55 pm

It's the most amazing RPG ever.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:24 pm

It's the most amazing RPG ever.

Didnt you say you got dissapointed with skyrim before?

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:39 pm

lol I have Dark Souls but it does not seem like much of an RPG to me, although it does have lots of stats. But yeah, I can understand the frustration with that game. First time I played, I got killed by a couple of skellitons, so I rushed back to where I had died to try to pick up my souls but I was having trouble finding my way back and I accidently fell off a cliff, thus loosing those souls forever. I was more careful after that.

Dark souls is pretty fun,But not my type of game

I dont count it as a RPG.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:05 pm

My standards aren't really that high I'm not talking about things like snowboarding down a mountain or something like that. I'm talking about just taking the game a step further and being a Jarl it really doesn't sound impossible to do or being able to kill anyone in the game whenever I want to, but not being able to kill anyone I want to really makes the game feel linear and scripted. That doesn't seem so high of standard unless you think it is. But part of what I'm saying is if truly a rpg I should be able to make my own decisions in the game such as sparing someone or killing whoever I like. This game just doesn't have those sort of moral choices It all just feels as if you are just following script just in whatever order you want.

You can't kill everyone in the game because of how unscripted it is. If you could kill everyone and anyone in the game then it would break quests and the game in general because random creatures or people could end up killing eachother before they provide you with their part in the game. To be able to kill anyone they would have to script the game to prevent it.

OT: Yes I believe it is because you role play a character you choose in a world that you can walk from one end to the other in without loading screens. With very minor exceptions you can go anywhere you want at any time and the game doesn't force you to go to one place to find something to do. It's never going to be open like you seem to expect because all games have their limitations, which are built with coding and its target market in mind. Not even The Sims allows you to do whatever you want down to tiny details (even though it's a simulation) because it's just not feasible with tech, time and economic constraints. So, with that in mind Skyrim is an open world RPG because it allows quite a high level of roleplaying and is massively open. Only a few games seem near to it in terms of this, and most of them are its predecessors :tongue:

With all the constraints on making video games, Skyrim is very near to the pinnacle of what we can achieve at the moment. I'm not saying your idea couldn't be realised in the future (which it actually can now with modding, on pc of course), but for me even vanilla Skyrim sets the bar for open world RPGs at the moment.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:33 pm

You're never going to answer this question, because different people have different opinions. What I may consider a 'true open RPG' may be considered something different by someone else. I personally believe that Skyrim is an open, amazing RPG. I know some on this forum disagree.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:22 pm

If to consider a Game a RPG you need to be able to, literally, "do whatever you want" then no game is a RPG.

Pretty much this. Even PnP games have restrictions on them. No game truly allows you to "be who you want, do what you want".

However, the design in which Elder Scrolls does this (Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim) I feel successfully qualifies it as a true open world RPG, and a damned high quality one at that.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:10 pm

You forgot Daggerfall. You're doing this series a great injustice not mentioning it. It actually does the "be who you want, do what you want" better than the other ones.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:35 pm

It certianly is open in terms of the huge world to explore, but there are not too many choices and its more of a FPS game now than an RPG...

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:38 pm

No game can have everything be perfect.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:51 pm

I think it is, yes.