I'll keep my long hair thank you... but I don't skate, I play guitar, that reminds me I need to get back to practicing Radiant Eclipse by Avenged Sevenfold.

What's there to really say about it? It's pretty widely regarded as stupid and terrible. A lot of people shrug it off as human nature, and this is true, but this doesn't mean it can't be fended off, and some may be surprised how easily it's encouraged. While we like to talk about how advanced our society is and how sparkling our morality as we obsess over safe, non-taboo political correctness, but there is still a LOT of general bigotry and pointless hate in everyday life. Children learn, in many ways, that hating someone for being different is quite acceptable, that "because I can" or "because I want to" are reason enough for most any behavior. I see "stop bullying" commercials that tell kids to tell an advlt, and then the advlt in real life says "you're in trouble for saying there's trouble", because the school's reputation is at stake.

Suicide is just one of many ways severe bullying can permanently change a life for the worse, but unfortunately it's not as easy as public service announcements saying "hey, don't do that". Society can teach things overtop of human nature, but it takes a long time, and there's a long way to go before it's considered an unusual occurrence.

Unfortunately a person I knew's son knocked on her door and pulled the trigger, worst thing I've ever heard about...

This. Plus, there are many better ways to deal with your problems than suicide.

One of the problems is that the parents seem to be clueless to what's going on or just don't do anything to help or support them. Like in that story MorrowindFan posted the mother says "I should have knew something was wrong, but he seemed happy", how is the bullying so bad that you would commit suicide and yet nobody knows about it?

Bullying is a horrible act that will always have repursussions. Though I must say, "better him than me".

Physical bullying is over-stepping the boundries and the consequences can be fatal. Suicide or a retaliaton. Though this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK2P7kgvMyk did it in self defense.

Maybe the kid should've thought before bullying that kid. Oh well it's a part of life.....

Got what he deserved, but not in the heart... That's kind of brutal...

Maybe if he had one it would've. The kid that was killed even looked like a A-hole.

Keep in mind I skimmed through the article, so I only remember a few parts.

Saw the entire vid. I would say it's funny how ignorant these people are, but it's not. No, their ignorance of how vicious kids can be is quite disguising.

Bullies only understand one thing, power. There is nothing the school system can do to curb this, and until they begin to realize all the suspensions in the world won't do diddly (may even make thing worse, because the bully now has a revenge motive), crap like this is going to continue to fly.

Indeed. While bullying verbally is wrong, I do not think the outcome should be death. It's unescessary. Now self-defense is a completely different thing. People died before by getting pummeled to the ground, or even had brain damage. In such a situation, I think killing is perfectly justified.


Imagine the beating. Being outnumbered by tons of guys. It's a coward's tactic. Three, four or even five guys beating on a single dude is not good. I myself was robbed once. I tackled one guy him and threw punches, then I was overwhelmed by four other guys which I had no clue were part of it. Not fun at all. The only thing in a victim's mind is revenge.

I am 99% the teen did not walk around with a knife because he was bored. He was obviously threatened before and bullied to the point where he expected violence against him. No one can blame him. He fought for his life, and he earned the right to live against a cruel injustice.

We live in a violent society. It's no surprise there are vicious youth everywhere. And the guy was apparently hated so much, they negatively commented on his memorial. While I understand the feeling some of them must of felt, I cannot imagine how his parents felt. To know your son died in an attack he provoked and to top it off, his funeral memorial was spammed with hate comments.

Not easy.

Many people who are badly bullied will go out of their way to hide it outside of school. Often they fear they'll just make it worse, like a parent will "have a talk" with the other kid's parents and the next day they're beaten up twice as bad for getting them in trouble. Or, they fear they will get in trouble. Some may not even believe they deserve help. Kids who are already prone to depression are often prime targets for bullying because they may not have the self-esteem or initiative to defend themselves. Unfortunately, they're also often not capable of emotionally defending themselves, and the depression leads them to believe that they deserve what they're getting, because they really are that worthless. Once people reach that state they're not likely to seek help, or bother saying anything to anyone.

I only skimmed through it, but I used to walk around with a knife on me at all times.

That, and schools can't do much to begin with.

Used to? Why not now?

I would definetly purchase a weapon when I reach 21. In this world, my friend, the threat of other people is always certain. I heard of a woman who's son was shot in the rear while he was in the passanger seat because she beeped the horn against an enraged driver. Luckily, it was a minor injury. But that's just an example of how crazy people can be.

How would you carry a knife around with you? In your pocket? In your wallet?

Long story, involved violence, really not pretty...

I've seen it all. A simple story is not so bad. Does it involve bullying?

Just for the sake of the thread and the mods.

I know a way. But it depends on the size.

Yes, again not very pretty, mods/law/everyone, it was in self defense, they threatened me with knives and drew them on me.

Okay, then. Sorry to hear you don't carry knives anymore.

well, they caused more problems than not, 8 stab wounds to everyone.

Good. The situation was balanced and the order of things was restored. I see no error in that

the original context didn't imply that though, so I had to clarify the situation.

Anyways I'm off for the night goodnight everyone.

I think a lot of it has to do with how people (kids and teens in this case mostly) are more or less scared of/don't understand anything that seems different to them. So they react the only possible way they feel they can/know how to, and that's to bully.

I went through high school in a VERY stereotypical rural area, so anyone of the homosixual persuasion caused people to mess with them, as well as others (anyone who didn't play sports, didn't listen to country, dressed different, wasn't a follower of the Bible, got good grades/was smart, etc, etc, etc).

In my case, I think it's rather sad looking back at it, as most of these kids were raised from birth to act the way they do. They are simply products of a backwards society that is stuck in the dark ages of human culture and knowledge.

All of that said, I think many people who get bullied should realize that high school (middle school or w.e.) is NOT the be all end all of your life. You go on, and after that never have to deal with any of those people ever again.