This Yahoo article sums it up.

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/hello-brave-world-console-gaming-003839870.html

My only comment will be that this has been going on with computer games since the conception of steam. It looks like all video gamers are about to be in the same boat.

As someone who does buy used games to get to know a series, this will be bad. I would plunk down $20 to try out an early game in a series, then buy the new games of the series. That won't happen anymore.

Nor will I be buying a 4th gen console as most of my console gaming does derive initially from the rental market. Reason, reviews can not tell me how I will like to play a game, only playing the game can tell me how I will like it. However, a number of those rentals do turn into purchases if I like the game, so they have lost even more sales on my behalf.

I see this as much the same as the DRM debacle with music. Only, the artists, in this case, the developers, do not have an alternative to the regular market. Now, musicians give away the music, hoping that some will pay, to earn their money performing concerts. Game developers are going to have to figure out the alternative method of revenue. Perhaps charging for the online experience of the game. Then, they don't have to even sell the initial copy. But, that won't apply to all games as not all games have online or should have online play.

Of course, just because the console makers put this "feature" in, does not mean game developers have to adhere to all the rules.

Meh. Doesn't really bother me. I only really buy games on Steam nowadays, and you can't resell those. Besides, I think it will drive the quality of games up. Too many games are over in 10 hours/or are generally terrible, and like the article says, many people would think twice before buying a game. Which will result in lost profits initially, but hopefully in the long run better games will be produced.

Gaming: Once a recreational activity, now a raging whirlpool of corporate big shots coming up with new and exciting ways to extort money from as many unwitting and blind people as is humanly possible. Paranoia over losing a single penny to the pirate "menace" serves only to drive them to ever more extreme and ridiculous lengths, not paying any heed to the cries of the average consumer.

Hey, that sounds a lot like the film industry, too..

I'm glad I'm leaving console gaming and going to stick by PC gaming.

Yes, because PC gamers are completely immune to all of this.

Now where did I ever state or imply that?

Greed.

This is sad news. If this is true (most likely it is) then I will not purchase ps4. Maybe the next console Microsoft makes wont do this? I remember bringing a new copy of my Red Faction game over to my friends place to show him the game, this will no longer happen. So if Sony does do this, I hope some hacker finds a way to override it.

I'm guessing, at the point where you said you were leaving console gaming for PCs, implying this stuff was the reason for that.

As it stands, I'm not interested in the next generation of consoles.

The only reason I can deal with Steam is because my PC is always online, and I only buy the cheap deals anyway. If I have to have my console hooked up to the internet, can't buy used games, and can't borrow/lend games, then it's no different from a PC anymore. And I thought consoles were supposed to be about simplicity, not all this mandatory activation and online accounts nonsense.

The point of buying a Gaming Console without the need for a disk? None.

Once this happens, I'll get better internet and fix my comp up a little and bye bye consoles.

Sorry if I implied that, but I've been planning to go back to PC gaming for quite a while now.

If they do this, they will lose so many customers. I hope they comd to regret it, if they do this ridiculous greed mongering thing.

You actually think publishers/developers especially large ones would be against it; especially Bethesda who has no qualms of doing such on PC. Used games have the same effect as downloading it on Arrrrr! or similar the money doesn't reach the publisher/developer at all it all goes to the shady used store chains such as Game and Gamestop. There are systems in place for Sony and MS to make money off used games mainly MS due to Xbox live gold being required to play online games they are set Sony has an optional sub based system that adds nice little features. PC community has had DRM part of almost every game either it be as small as a key you enter on installation or steam as Skyrim as and you what PC community still is growing even with that.

As someone mentioned in that link in the comment yes it will be intrusive for consumers or just a bit more then they are currently are used too BUT it will help the industry overall because more money is gathered from games that goes to both MS and Sony as well as publishers and developers that made the game. Unlike the movie industry there is no after release profit movie industry has 1. Initial release on the Big screen revenue. 2. DvD/Blu ray 3. Cable networks 4. Cable providers 5. After release movie theaters when the price for said movie is low which can also occur when a new iteration comes out such as Lord of the Rings did with theirs showing all 3 movies in one sitting.

Used games is not the depending factor to get a PC and console the reason to get a console over a PC it's simple that's all literally plug and play nothing more nothing less other then that one reason.

If both the Xbox 720 and PS4 would jump on the 'no second hand sales' thing, I could see Nintendo taking advantage of that with the Wii U by being the only platform that does allow second hand copies.

Agree completely. If this rumor is true, it greatly benefits Nintendo.

And even the Wii U has already confirmed Origin integration. That has more to do with EA of course then Nintendo but they still agreed with it. I wouldn't be surprised if PS4/720 made similar deals with origin or steam with their new systems.

I wouldn't be so sure. After all, people are continuously buying obvious ripoff DLC deals and are still supporting franchises that have been ground into the dirt for so long that they've lost whatever substance they started with. Take Mass Effect, a series I had high hopes for, completely shot down by the removing of features I enjoyed, a gradual departure from its RPG roots, and then finally one of the biggest screw-ups to a conclusion I've ever seen in my life. All of this not because Bioware is a bad developer, but because they've fallen victim to the corporate greed that's ensnared them like a python around its prey.

Unfortunately, given Nintendo's track record with third-party publishers, I can see publishers just opting not to support the Wii U if it meant allowing used sales. They wouldn't be losing any sizable audience compared to this generation in doing so.

Still, if this happens then it looks like it'll be Wii U and handhelds for me next generation. I'm sure I'll miss out on a ton of good games from many of my favorite publishers on the PlayStation 4, but what they're doing with these consoles is just ridiculous.

It's hard to believe the monkeys in charge have managed to run my favorite hobby into the ground in a matter of ~6 years.

If I could buy everything through Steam I would. That includes bread, meat, clothes, coffee, fast food, etc...

The future is legendary games like Skyrim and the greatest studio ever, BGS. Thank you Beth.

As a person who buys second hand games.

[censored] you corporate greed.

watch TES 6 be fully integrated on steam on PC, PS4, and Xbox 720

but yes rushed ported games are the future and even present of the industry

sadly.

I've bought more second hand games than new games in my time. But seriously... Do you honestly think the people that made the game see a cent of a second hand game sale?

Reduce costs by moving to an online distribution platform.

Copy protect your games.

Don't turn into EA.

That is the future of gaming.

Physical media is practically dead. Accept it and move on.

Being someone who doesn't have deep enough pockets to buy new games, this really svcks.