uh, you mean Michael Mack?

The guy that did the Redguards in Oblivion, Morrowind and maybe others? Is that his name?

Many of these posts show a real lack of the awareness of races.

First mistake. A reguard or Black person (which is what you obviously allude to) might easily sound like anyone else. It just depends where he`s been bought up.

Second: You seriously do not need a black person to do a black person`s voice.

If you were to hear everyone just audibly on the phone and then try to predict who the black person was I guarantee you`d be wrong 80% of the time.

Have you listened to a white guy who`s lived in Africa or Jamiaca? You heard a black guy from Scotland? yes, they exist, noobs.

You would be shocked, because he won`t sound like a white man to you. And the black guy from Scotland will sound- er- Scottish.

You people need to go out and meet some black people - and not just ones who talk with a deep accent on TV. Go visit some white people in places like Jamaica too while you`re at it.

Ignorant threads like these annoy me.

Yes him. In fact, Redguard was his debut if I'm not mistaken. Btw, watch this video if you want to see his work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr2ayoup8-8

white people can sound black, not many black people sound white however

Agh. What rubbish.

The ignorance is mind boggling.

2012 and I still have to hear such ignorant crap.

give me examples

Just my input for this thread: I have heard Africans talk gangster, hick, british, typical white, a bit of jamaica and native African. It really does depend on your birthplace, so I guess that explain some variation in the voices.

Give you examples.

Let me instead tell you to get off your backside and go out into the world and experience it instead of coming out with what you `think` idiocy.

A trained ear can still hear the difference though.

do I need to point out what's ignorant with your comment?

I guess that's true. Although one thing I don't like is sharing similar voices between races, such as typical Imperial female on female Dunmer. It makes me go lolwut? This is why I couldn't associate with Argonians or Khajiit because they were the exact same. I didn't even realize it until someone pointed that out. I thought Argonian was cool too :/ While it's not as bad in Skyrim, I wish they would do away with that permanently. If an actor is for a Redguard, he's permanently a Redguard actor, same with Breton, Nord etc.

They should sound like North Africans, because that's what they're based off of. Nazir's voice actor sounds spot on. That "have you been to the cloud district?" sounds way too white. I want Michael Mack and Nazir's voice actor to be the standard for Redguards, not the white guy they hired for Skyrim.

I think the only real way to solve this so everyone* is happy is to give all the Nord and Breton women red hair, welsh accents and mute everyone else.

*Acceptable margin of error +/- 7 Billion

Can`t believe the idiotic rubbish I`m reading from idiots.

The blind truly lead the blind.

Agreed.
It's no secret that I don't sympathize with over half of their design decisions.

Did you read what we've been saying? Or the points I made? If other races can have their own accents why can't Redguards?

I guess you didn't understand. Oh well.

It's not just about accents, there are differences in vocal cord structure between races, particularly africans. The oblivion / morrowind / redguard voice actor spoke in an american accent but he still sounded like he had this vocal structure, which made redguards sound unique. As a black kid growing up, I always loved how TES was one of the only fantasy games that gave black people a large part without being either racist or overly politically correct. Now they just seem like imperials dipped in chocolate.

It's not just about accents, there are differences in vocal cord structure between races, particularly africans. The oblivion / morrowind / redguard voice actor spoke in an american accent but he still sounded like he had this vocal structure, which made redguards sound unique. As a black kid growing up, I always loved how TES was one of the only fantasy games that gave black people a large part without being either racist or overly politically correct. Now they just seem like imperials dipped in chocolate.

I don't know about you guys, but I would have loved it if the Redguard PC was voiced by Nazir/Three Dog. :V

Well, not all Black people are the stereotypical trashy, uneducated, low-class vermin that you have in America. Those give other Blacks a bad name. And Redguards aren't of African descent, so they aren't obligated to have any cultural, racial, physical, etc, similarities to Blacks.

Not that I don't agree with you. But where was it in history when certain people were refered to as vermin? Funny, I can't seem to put my finger on it.

Edit: Oh yeah, it was every point of human oppresion, "sixual assault", and genocide in recorded history.

In response to this, I'll repeat what I said before. I think it covers things well.

As someone who is both knowledgable of Redguard lore and an African himself I think I'm qualified to respond to this:

Like most elder scrolls races, redguards are superficially based off of a real life culture. While they diverge in many ways, Redguards are, at their core, a fusion of african / arab cultures. Everything from their language, which is a cross between african and arab sounding words (Hoonding, Alikir, Yokuda, Ansei, I even saw a name in a book that literally translated to something arabic) to their clothing, and their facial structure are based off of these two cultures. Now consider this:

The games Redguard, Morrowind, and Oblivion all used an African voice actor. It wasn't anything offensive, you could just tell by the sound of his vocal cords.

Many races have distinct accents in this game. Redguards could easily have been given an african / arab accent.

I'm pretty sure some of the orcs have black voice actors. How is that less offensive than giving black people black voice actors?

I wish he would go a bit high pitched. He only talks like he does as Nazir when he has a witty comment.

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