The Traveler's Tavern (International Inquiries II)

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:50 pm

Yes and no. They only ever need to go to the executive parts of cities. Many of the people I know in the burbs work from home. I don't like being there, all those neatly lined up houses just bug me. I guess what I'm trying to say is that most of the people I've known who grew up in the burbs were very, very sheltered. I don't mean to generalize, but this is just what I've experienced. Most suburban areas have a mega (i.e., more, higher quality products) version of a supermarket, and a assortment of food chains just around the corner. Usually Apple Bees, Red Robin, T.G.I. Fridays etc. The only time they really need to leave is for work.

I'm painting with broad brushes and speaking for people here, I apologize. I just have had some...less than pleasant experiences with suburbanites. To explain my aversion: about 70% of the middle class people in the South aren't Southerners, but Yanks that have moved down into the suburbs because of business stuff. It inspires resentment among the working class, they have better schools (yes, most suburban areas have their own schools), better tasting water, free lawn care, big houses. Many of the families down here work themselves to the bone just to scraqe by. I'm not saying that the working class deserves hand outs or that the middle class and upper middle class don't deserve their wealth. Unless they were born into it, they earned every penny too their name. It just inspires a lot of hot air, seeing them live better lives than the locals. Then they feel like they can tell us how to live, what is wrong and what is right, that is what really gets people. Many of them I've met seem to think of the locals as ill mannered barbarians who sacrifice goats on the altar to bring the magic cloud tears down upon our plant babies.
Yeah, I get it. I used to live in a suburb's 'poor' section. Considering I've lived in roach motels, a trailer, and sub-par homes. Living in that house felt like a mansion from the places I'd lived. One of the worst parts of a Suburbia is the arrogance. There are usually 3 types of suburbia people. The kind who have that 'Rags to riches' story, and is totally cool to know, the guy who had a good upbringing from birth but is fully concious of the world outside the Suburbia Bubble, then the cliche snob who think they're entitled to the best there is in the world even if they simply married or were born into their wealth. I don't believe the people who work for their money dont deserve it, they've fought for their dollar, it's their right to live in privelege, but the snobby types usually never worked among the 'common' folk, or at all.
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Ernesto Salinas
 
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:04 pm

okay, in Las Vegas what should i do, i really wanna go
Rent a boat and go out on lake mead with a couple of friends and beer!

Can any american here answer this? I've never gotten a straight answer!
Why does chocolate have to have peanut butter in it?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:32 pm

Isn't there a large number of car accidents in Australia caused by those spiders falling out of rear view mirrors and glove boxes and stuff?

I realise that sentence is awkward as hell by the way. I'm wining and dining. Minus the dining. So I ain't gonna change it tonight.
Probably more are caused by people talking/texting on phones, eating breakfast, doing their hair/makeup, beating their kids to death, wrestling radios, etc.

Don't have any stats in front of me, though, so I can't give a definitive answer. Someone earlier mentioned that they'd worked in emergency services for a while, so they may be able to give some anecdotal input.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Why does chocolate have to have peanut butter in it?

Don't know where you got that idea...Reese's cups are really good, but Hershey and others make all kinds of chocolate with no peanut butter.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:48 pm

Don't know where you got that idea...Reese's cups are really good, but Hershey and others make all kinds of chocolate with no peanut butter.
I look in my local target and I see about twenty differnt types of peanut butter choclate!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:45 pm

Don't know where you got that idea...Reese's cups are really good, but Hershey and others make all kinds of chocolate with no peanut butter.

I tasted Hershey's for the first time recently and was somewhat surprised to find that it's flavoured with vomit.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:50 pm

I look in my local target and I see about twenty differnt types of peanut butter choclate!
Candy filled shooting range? Damn, why didn't I think of that.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:37 pm

I tasted Hershey's for the first time recently and was somewhat surprised to find that it's flavoured with vomit.

Oh there are better chocolates...no doubt.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:50 am

Candy filled shooting range? Damn, why didn't I think of that.
The USMC, innovating shooting ranges since '87!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:45 pm

Yeah, I get it. I used to live in a suburb's 'poor' section. Considering I've lived in roach motels, a trailer, and sub-par homes. Living in that house felt like a mansion from the places I'd lived. One of the worst parts of a Suburbia is the arrogance. There are usually 3 types of suburbia people. The kind who have that 'Rags to riches' story, and is totally cool to know, the guy who had a good upbringing from birth but is fully concious of the world outside the Suburbia Bubble, then the cliche snob who think they're entitled to the best there is in the world even if they simply married or were born into their wealth. I don't believe the people who work for their money dont deserve it, they've fought for their dollar, it's their right to live in privelege, but the snobby types usually never worked among the 'common' folk, or at all.
I've met rich snobs, poor snobs, middle class snobs, intellectual snobs, stupid snobs. In my brain a snob is just a snob. One more reason why I think we have to judge folks on an individual basis rather then clump them all together and label them as a group.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 7:02 pm

Australians how do you feel about "New south Wales" as a person from south Wales. I [censored] hate it.

Why would you hate it? Apart from you hating everything. I have no problem with it. Its just the name that Cook gave the place (originally it was just "New Wales"). Its no different to places in the US being named after places across the Atlantic.

"Sydney funne-web spider"

Meaning it only lives in and around Sydney :rolleyes:. If you steer clear of New South Wales, your chances of coming across one are extremely limited outside of zoos.

But as I said in the previous thread, after 21 years of living in NSW, I've never encountered a funnelweb. The only spiders you ever really encounter are either small harmless black ones, huntsmens or St Andrews' Cross spiders. There's no need to not visit Australia because of spiders, in reality they're not that much more common than elsewhere, its just we happen to have the few most dangerous ones living in the bush/dirty areas that you probably wouldn't visit anyway.

Isn't there a large number of car accidents in Australia caused by those spiders falling out of rear view mirrors and glove boxes and stuff?

I've never heard of that happening.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:23 am

I've met rich snobs, poor snobs, middle class snobs, intellectual snobs, stupid snobs. In my brain a snob is just a snob. One more reason why I think we have to judge folks on an individual basis rather then clump them all together and label them as a group.
Salient point. I suppose in general a snob isn't an economic class so much as a personality class. Even among 'poor' you find snobs, and why? Because they take PRIDE in being these poor 'survivalists'. So I suppose people will find any reason to be self superior, be it religious, political, economic, etc.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:50 am

I tasted Hershey's for the first time recently and was somewhat surprised to find that it's flavoured with vomit.
I came away with much the same impression
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:10 pm

Salient point. I suppose in general a snob isn't an economic class so much as a personality class. Even among 'poor' you find snobs, and why? Because they take PRIDE in being these poor 'survivalists'. So I suppose people will find any reason to be self superior, be it religious, political, economic, etc.
Yep. We're all bozos on this bus. :wink:

I will point out however that true survivalists know they must help one another out no matter how rich, poor, smart, stupid, egocentric or whatever they are because if you don't you won't survive long. It does bring folks together in a way little else does. However that isn't really a choice.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:29 pm

I came away with much the same impression

I concur. What's the deal with American chocolate? It all tastes like sick.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:23 pm

Don't know where you got that idea...Reese's cups are really good, but Hershey and others make all kinds of chocolate with no peanut butter.
Hershey makes chocolate now?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:16 am

Yep. We're all bozos on this bus. :wink:

I will point out however that true survivalists know they must help one another out no matter how rich, poor, smart, stupid, egocentric or whatever they are because if you don't you won't survive long. It does bring folks together in a way little else does. However that isn't really a choice.
Hmmm, I think I used the wrong words....Survivalist isnt right. But it's like uhhh, those people who are dirt poor, and are bull stubborn in their simplicity? Like those people who criticise the rich soley because they don't rely on the simpler more basic things someone poorer might rely on.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:57 am

I remember The Highlands being...ethereal, almost.

That's because of all the rain.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:43 pm

To the Dutch: you really love mayonnaise, don't you?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:51 am

I concur. What's the deal with American chocolate? It all tastes like sick.

It's the only time I've been unable to actually face eating some chocolate (even including Angus Thirlwell's infamously misguided thyme-flavoured chocolate!): I couldn't get the taste of sick out of my mouth for ages.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:35 am

To the Dutch: you really love mayonnaise, don't you?
I certainly do. No ketchup on my fries, please!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:43 am

I concur. What's the deal with American chocolate? It all tastes like sick.
I dunno I eat it just fine. I tried German chocolate, didn't care for it. Tried Belgian Chocolates, SO.AMAZING. <3
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 1:52 pm

Americans: why do you have bad versions of good stuff, i.e. cheese, chocolate, wine? :cryvaultboy:
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:32 am

Hmmm, I think I used the wrong words....Survivalist isnt right. But it's like uhhh, those people who are dirt poor, and are bull stubborn in their simplicity? Like those people who criticise the rich soley because they don't rely on the simpler more basic things someone poorer might rely on.

I feel ya broseph. In England I have been ridiculed for being Middle Class. "Ah you're so posh, look at you in all your finery. All arrogant and graceful. Look at your full head of blonde locks and gleaming white teeth."

Ok, I went Ott. But I am what I am. Some people seem to think it's a crime to be middle class in England. Get off my back and get on the Jeremey Kyle show you cart riding gypsies.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:55 pm

Americans: why do you have bad versions of good stuff, i.e. cheese, chocolate, wine?
Poor Judgement. We're a nation of fast foods, sue happy lawsuits, fat people wearing undersized clothing, and horrible remakes of foreign shwos. :wink:
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