Do these people get PAID to write this?

Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:12 pm

So you read a big, really really positive review, so positive that its possible that they have been paid by bethesda, and then you read ONE. ONE NEGATIVE THING. ONE. And suddenly the review is bad and some other company paid them to write it.

Jesus.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:09 pm

but for those of us who's like to invite friends it would be amazing. Oblivion always felt like there are should have been other real players in it.

You already have like a million MMOs / Co op RPGs you can play.

No single TES game EVER felt like there should have been other players in it. This is the single thing that will be the death of this series.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:27 pm

I hate multiplayer games.. and all the fan boys who wants to turn tes into one, is just... leave britney alone for christ sake!
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 1:59 pm

HERESY! BURN THE HERETIC :flamethrower:

TES has always been single player. your own world your own character your own experience. i'm sorry but MMOs have nearly ruined the RPG genre and the EVERYTHING MULTIPLAYER needs to stop. seriously. it would be like release halo without multiplayer functionality.

No one ois asking for MMO , a simple co op is something I've wanted in TES for a long time. Being able to explore this vast world with just a friend would be very very nice. What other open world rpg allows that?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:03 pm

I hate multiplayer games.. and all the fan boys who wants to turn tes into one, is just... leave britney alone for christ sake!

+1

No one ois asking for MMO , a simple co op is something I've wanted in TES for a long time. Being able to explore this vast world with just a friend would be very very nice. What other open world rpg allows that?

Sacred 2 and Diablo III. If you want anymore than make it yourself maybe. Stop trying to ruin the only decent single player RPG left today.
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Because it will be one step closer towards turning TES into an MMO and basing the gameplay around co op and group play, which the majority of TES fans do not want.

You have this forum right here to discuss the game, and there are more than enough games that already cater to co op / multiplayer fans.

If you want a co op / single player game, Diablo III would be more suited to you. TES is far too much better as a single player only game, I would hate to see Bethesda bend over backwards to the online play fans and add any kind of co op or multiplayer to this series.

That is a reason. I don't really care if TES has co-op or not, I just tend to like to hear an actual reason for someone's distaste in something and just saying "It would ruin the game" doesn't really explain why they dislike the idea. Thank you for telling me this reason lol, and while I do like some MMO's I do agree I would be quite disappointed to see TES go in that direction.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:05 pm

Yes, let's burn all who have opposing opinions to our own :flamethrower:
the only reason to burn this person is because this review, while from a worthless source, is inane. instead of saying " i wanted co-op, but there is none so im giving it a mark against its score" he could have said "even though this game has no co-op mode i wont hold it against the game, seeing as though the developers have said many times "ES games will never be co-op/multiplayer" im giving this game what it deserves based on what was presented." basically the person who wrote the article said the only reason why it received a 9/10 is due to lack of co-op.... which makes his review invalid seeing as though TES will not ever be a co-op game, was never presented as a co-op game, or even hinted that it might have been a multiplayer.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 1:13 pm

That's fine. I give TF2 a 5/10 for not having a singleplayer mode.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:33 pm

You already have like a million MMOs / Co op RPGs you can play.

No single TES game EVER felt like there should have been other players in it. This is the single thing that will be the death of this series.
No other game has the same stuff you can do in TES. And if none feel like they should have other players in it... what's with companion systems?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:33 pm



Sacred 2 and Diablo III. If you want anymore than make it yourself maybe. Stop trying to ruin the only decent single player RPG left today.

Tell me why having a co-op FEATURE would ruin the sinple player TES experience. You can't just assume they are going to make a [censored] game because they decided to add a co-op feature. That doesn't make sense and you're not placing much faith in the devs.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:15 pm

the only reason to burn this person is because this review, while from a worthless source, is inane. instead of saying " i wanted co-op, but there is none so im giving it a mark against its score" he could have said "even though this game has no co-op mode i wont hold it against the game, seeing as though the developers have said many times "ES games will never be co-op/multiplayer" im giving this game what it deserves based on what was presented." basically the person who wrote the article said the only reason why it received a 9/10 is due to lack of co-op.... which makes his review invalid seeing as though TES will not ever be a co-op game, was never presented as a co-op game, or even hinted that it might have been a multiplayer.

The fact that you're saying had it had that it would've got 10/10 should tell you all you need to know about the quality of that "review".

Is Skyrim good? Great even? Most probably yes (I haven't played it yet). So then, we'll give it a 7 or 8 (as that warrants - thats well above what should be average '5').. maybe, just maybe a 9. If our computers literally turned to gold when we played it, and we began excreting cash and urinating beer just from exposure to such sheer amazingness.
But a 10? So it's perfect? No one aspect could be faulted? Nothing improved? I think not. Bethesda themselves certainly would disagree.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:27 pm

"The two most requested features we get are dragons and multiplayer. We got one of them this time," he said.

"We always look into multiplayer, put lots of ideas on the whiteboard and it always loses. It's not that we don't like it. I can think of ways it would be a lot of fun."
According to Howard. creating multiplayer would also pull the development team from the single-player portion of the game and jeopardise the quality of the solo experience.

"At the end of the day, that dev time is going to take away from doing the best single-player game we can, and that's where our hearts are."
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/296453/bethesda-explains-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-multiplayer-omission/

But a 10? So it's perfect? No one aspect could be faulted? Nothing improved? I think not.
A 10 score does not mean perfect. It never has. It never will. These aren't high school test grades.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:55 pm

I give Skyrim a 4 because you can't aim down your rifle sights and there is no rechargeable health like in CoD.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:40 pm

why does every game have to have mp or co-op?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 11:51 pm

"On a negative, they mention that there is no co-op mode, and that this game should have it." http://feedyourconsole.com/2011/11/review-elder-scrolls-skyrim/

Idiots.
Why? Because they didn't give it a perfect score?


It's rather amusing watching all the little immature children line up on these forums - pitch fork in hand - ready to crucify anyone who doesn't give this game all glory and praise. Reviews are SUPPOSED to be unbiased and impartial. It does not make a reviewer an idiot because they didn't give the game a 10; I feel a little disgusted that gamers expect such scores, as if 9/10 wasn't a great score, some of you are acting like they received a 4/10. Honestly, what does it even matter, every one of you on here are going to purchase or have already purchased this game and will play it until your eyes bleed and your bodies shrivel up from dehydration, regardless of any review.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 11:33 pm

Tell me why having a co-op FEATURE would ruin the sinple player TES experience. You can't just assume they are going to make a [censored] game because they decided to add a co-op feature. That doesn't make sense and you're not placing much faith in the devs.

Because every other game that has co op or multiplayer has ended up 100% ruined and crap, thats why.

Why does every game have to have a co op or multiplayer mode? Why cant you enjoy single player games without whining about a lack of being able to play with others?
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 12:55 am

Because every other game that has co op or multiplayer has ended up 100% ruined and crap, thats why.

Why does every game have to have a co op or multiplayer mode? Why cant you enjoy single player games without whining about a lack of being able to play with others?
why not have both
you can ignore the features, and others can have the features
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:55 pm

And as someone else kindly posted:


"We always look into multiplayer, put lots of ideas on the whiteboard and it always loses. It's not that we don't like it. I can think of ways it would be a lot of fun."
According to Howard. creating multiplayer would also pull the development team from the single-player portion of the game and jeopardise the quality of the solo experience.

"At the end of the day, that dev time is going to take away from doing the best single-player game we can, and that's where our hearts are."


Beshesda should purely focus 100% of their efforts on creating the best possible single player experience. There are no more games like TES anymore because all the others are MULTIPLAYER / CO OP!!!

why not have both
you can ignore the features, and others can have the features

Read the quote above, that has now been posted twice. Developers wasting their time implementing multiplayer features = worse single player game.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 12:50 am

Uhm ... so the guy praises the game, points out a glitch he encountered and then mentions he would've liked it to have a coop mode while admitting he knows others would not want it ... how is that anything to get upset over? And I don't think he's getting payed, he mentioned he's writing rthe reviews for fun or something like that.

On a sidenote, I could imagine coop work quite well for this sort of game, doesn't have to be super deep, just a second player who can accompany the main player. Personally, I would have zero interest in it, but for those who'd enjoy it, why not?
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:10 am

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/296453/bethesda-explains-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-multiplayer-omission/


A 10 score does not mean perfect. It never has. It never will. These aren't high school test grades.

10/10 does mean 100%. 100% does mean a completely full value, with absolutely 0% of the criteria detracting from it. So in fact it does.
That's just simple mathematics. Not even high school mathematics.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 3:18 am

They were gonna put a coop mode in, but the chickens got out of the coop and started reporting crimes.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:14 pm

Personally, I would have zero interest in it, but for those who'd enjoy it, why not?

For the third time (at least):

"We always look into multiplayer, put lots of ideas on the whiteboard and it always loses. It's not that we don't like it. I can think of ways it would be a lot of fun."
According to Howard. creating multiplayer would also pull the development team from the single-player portion of the game and jeopardise the quality of the solo experience.

"At the end of the day, that dev time is going to take away from doing the best single-player game we can, and that's where our hearts are."
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:16 pm

As far as co-op goes, the fact of the matter is more and more casual gamers are asking for it. Bethesda will cater to the casual gamers because that's where the majority of the cash comes in. From a business perspective, it's totally understandable. Don't be suprised if we see some kindof co-op or MP experience in TES VI.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:54 pm

Because every other game that has co op or multiplayer has ended up 100% ruined and crap, thats why.

Why does every game have to have a co op or multiplayer mode? Why cant you enjoy single player games without whining about a lack of being able to play with others?

So every game that has co-op or multiplayer has turned out to be 100% crap? Right... So basically you have no good reason.

I'm not saying the game NEEDS co-op what I'm saying is that having the feature isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you don't like it you don't have to use it.
Having co-op would not ruin the game, the only thing that can ruin it is the devs making a bad game.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:42 pm

So basically you have no good reason.

I'm not saying the game NEEDS co-op what I'm saying is that having the feature isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Again for the fourth time:

"We always look into multiplayer, put lots of ideas on the whiteboard and it always loses. It's not that we don't like it. I can think of ways it would be a lot of fun."
According to Howard. creating multiplayer would also pull the development team from the single-player portion of the game and jeopardise the quality of the solo experience.

"At the end of the day, that dev time is going to take away from doing the best single-player game we can, and that's where our hearts are."

= Putting multiplayer / co op into TES would reduce the quality of the single player experience.

So every game that has co-op or multiplayer has turned out to be 100% crap?

In direct comparison to TES, every other RPG out there is 100% crap. The more that TES becomes like those other games, the worse it gets.

Its simple to understand.
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