Hmmm, the problem is, people expect the reviews to be posted by the release of the game so they can use them as a guide on whether they'll enjoy the game or not. By a week or two later, you can just find out from friends or other players on the Internet. Nobody reviews game *patches* (well, ok, sometimes they'll do a second article if a noteworthy patch that really fixes a lot of problems comes out).

So, they review the game as it exists in their pre-release review copies. They have to make a certain assumption, when reviewing games, that some of the worst bugs and problems are going to be fixed in a post-release patch, though they also usually disclose those problems to their readers, then rate the game on what they think the game experience will be when those problems are fixed. That's just the nature of the beast - it's the most reasonable way to go about it, and the expectation is that people who buy the game on release day know there will be some issues which will be addressed later and can live with that.

Skyrim has no multiplayer. Skyrim needs no multiplayer. The day they shove MP into TES is the day I stop buying TES. Now, if Bethesda designs a TES to be specifically and entirely MP, that's another story.

Wow! I didn't think my little comment would get so many replies...

All I meant was, that this in some way, was a 'job' for the writer - not that they were bribed, coerced, cajoled or otherwise bunged by Bethesda.

My other point, was that to criticise a game for having no co-op, in a game that has long been touted as SINGLE PLAYER ONLY - seems a little silly. That's like complaining that a banana has no meat in it.

It's a legitimate complaint, but this guy should have known better...

Say it ain't so!

Didn't see that quote earlier.. I wouldn't want them to implement co-op either if it takes away from the single player epicness. I find it hard to believe that a huge company like Bethesda could not have a team working on co-op though. Are they saying that every one of their employees is working on some aspect of Skyrim's single player?

Don't worry, a banana may not have meat in it, but it does have flesh.

And Skins, silly me. F U BETHESDA!!!! I WANT MY MEATY BANANA!!!! ....Erm, did I really say that?

Multiplayer and co-op would not make any sense in the TES world. In each game you are special. There is something about you that sets you apart from everyone else. That's why you end up getting abilities and skills that are better than every other NPC in the game. If you add another player, what makes you special anymore? This isn't a group game.

Sir, please keep your distance.

Do you have one for sale? Does M'Aiq possess said meaty item?

Also the game doesn't shoot fried chicken bits into my mouth when I'm hungry. Maybe the reviewer should list that as a criticism as well.

why would you want some tool coming into your game killing npcs and making a mess?

Sacred/Diablo are NOTHING like TES. They are HACK And slash clickers. They aren't ahuge open world full fledged rpg like TES.

Having a simple drop in/out co op where another player can adventure with you, do quests, etc would be amazing and something that no other open world rpg liek that has really did.

How would it HURT you to have it?

I realize that a majority of people on this forum are strongly opposed to any sort of multiplayer in Elder Scrolls, but I've got some unfortunate news for you: it's the future. - Game companies know this, and you can dig your heels in all you want... but at some point down the road, Elder Scrolls will become a multiplayer affair. It's not a question of "if" it will happen, it's a question of "when".

Yeah, I'm not entirely thrilled about that prospect either... but I have an open mind, and I'm open to new ideas. They tried it with Battlespire, so it's not inconceivable that they'd try it again.

why does it HAVE to have it? why cant it just be a single player game like it ALWAYS has been?

It doesn't HAVE to have it, but if the dev team are able to do a good job with it without sacrificing the single player(which i guess they can't) then why NOT have it?

Again its a feature that you don't HAVE to use, so it doesn't affect you at all.

For the fifth time:



And you answered your own question. The reason why TES doesnt have multiplayer / co op is purely because to remain a purely awesome single player RPG experience, and not a hack n slash clicker, it cannot afford to have any developer time wasted on multiplayer.

If TES had any kind of multiplayer / co op, it simply wouldnt be anywhere near as good a single player game as it currently is. So stop trying to butcher this game series with co op / multiplayer.


Because as it has now been posted 5 times, the Dev team cannot even devote 1% of its resources to implementing multiplayer, as that will take 1% away from the single player experience.

No one wants the gloriously wonderful single player experience of TES ruined, nor turned into any kind of co op / MMO game.

Maybe they should add co-op maybe they shouldn't. The point is the reviewer docked points for the fact that it doesn't have co-op. Might as well rate it lower since I can't race cars, and shoot aliens with a BFG either. Why lower a rating for a game because it doesn't have something it isn't intended to have?

Everybody here who's wanting Co-op or TES to go MMORPG should read this ^

I myself know very little about game programming, but even I know it would take ages to program a TES game to become a Co-op. And content would have to be cut. We don't want content cut.

It can be both, sort of. You hire a separate team to create a multi-player based on the ES universe. I myself have no interest in Counterstrike: Tamriel, but there is definitely an audience. The single player game though I don't think could be made co-op in a way that wouldn't transform TES beyond all recognition. How could you make a co-op version that didn't severely compromise the single player experience, or vice-versa?

Coop would ruin a lot of the things that make TES games good. Not only that but coop would ruin a couple of the new features in this game like radiant story etc.

Did you even read what I wrote?

I refuse to believe that a huge company cannot hire more people to make the game even better for those that love co-op. That's just not a good enough reason for me.
And to say that no one wants any kind of co-op play in the game is ignorant.

It's been posted, the same thing quoted from Todd Howards own words, but the multiplayer babies just wont understand the point.


Then you're the one thats ignorant, not I.

If people want co op play, they can play a game that has this. TES does not have to implement a co op feature for anyone, its single player experience is already the best you can possibly get, and no one in their right mind wants to butcher that by adding co op.

the thing i'm worried about here is the glitch that ties to the main quest