Yes, I know that it is called Castle Volkihar. But, that's the only mentioning of that word in the entire DLC. Harkon never mentions that those inside the castle are of the Volkihar bloodline, nor do the other vampires say that they are part of said bloodline. It's just a name for the castle, most likely referencing the cold nature of the area. Or, the book Immortal Blood's contents aren't even real, just old wives tales! JUST BECAUSE THE VAMPIRES ARE LIVING IN A CASTLE TITLED VOLKIHAR DOES NOT MAKE THEM VOLKIHAR VAMPIRES!!!!!!

Just like people from France aren't necessarily French. Oh, wait...

This

This. There were previous owners living in the castle.

I see what you did there!
But how do you know that they are the Volkihar because as far as I know they never say they are the Volkihar vampires. Plus Serana says something about the previous owners so couldn't they have been the Volkihar, not Serana and them.

Damn I got Ninja'd

They are volkihar vampires geez just cause they did not come out as you expected does not mean they are not volkihar. If they are not volk vampires what else can they be? I mean their innate bonuses are different from the cyrodil vampires. Plus they could of easily renamed the castle to castle volkihar after they took it from the previous owners.

The castle belonged to mara worshipers because when you are with serana going to find her mom there is a statue of mara half way buried under some rubble.

Once again its a technicality sort of thing, since there is no dialogue saying that they are Volkihar you can assume that they aren't. But then again they do live in a castle named after the Volkihar so you could assume that they are. There is no right or wrong, its just your RP preference.

They say they are the strongest Vampires in Skyrim and Immortal Blood says that is the Volkihar.


If they aren't the Volkihar they must be the original vampire clan because they were set in Skyrim and of course they came first so wouldn't they be the strongest and they weren't ever called Volkihar.

I know, your disappointed that we don't live in underwater cities and can't reach through the ice without breaking it.

Good point! I concur sir!
As memory serves they never did proclaim to be Volkihar, and I think Serana even mentions that they're not the first inhabitants. They even insist on calling their bloodline "Harkon's Gift" or "Harkon's Blood", and it appears that Harkon and his family are responsible for their clan members...or at least for most of them. It's also apparent that they run their "coven" like a mob syndicate so there is no telling just how many other family members are spread through out Skyrim.

IMO, each of the vampire "Bloodlines" are just families, and there are no separate "strains" of vampyrism. Legends of vampires pulling travelers through the ice, and swallowing men whole are just legends.

Oh, and "Porphyric Hemophilla" was changed to "Sanguine Vampyris" because Porphyria is an actual disease (or rather, a genetic condition), and using it as label for vampires is offensive.

Strains=Bloodlines. Who said Yekef are legend? I guess Movarth is a legend. Or Cyrodiilic vampires are legends too.

I agree with Werewolf&Vampire. It is clear that the book "Immortal Blood" is a credible source. There is a reason it can be found everywhere Vampires are located or involved. As to mutilating its contents, I cannot say.

Bethesda have a cavalier attitude to their own lore and it's up to their fans to try to make some sense of it however they can.

It really is that simple.

Bethesda probably thought the Volkihar as described in their lore aren't as epic as vampire lords, so they made vampire lords and put the Dawnguard vampires in a castle referencing the Volkihar

Personally I am not sure if I should believe they are Volkihar or not, but I know that I am a bit dissapointed that you could not ask Harkon or Serana about the Immortal Bloods description of the Volkihar.

Have you thought that the Volkihar aren't as exactly as described because they can't do it? These Vampire where shunned from society as they can't blend in and have the ability to just phase through ice. Now think if the PC got this disease every bit of ice in the entire game would have to be a solid all the way through just so the PC could phase through it. That would cause a lot more problems like getting stuck and how could you do the story if everyone wants to kill you?

Beth made them wrong and expect us to just sit and take it...the end

Well I don't know why they couldn't just stick with the "Volkihar" vampires from Immortal Blood instead of just adding a copy and paste of Cyrodiil vampires but with a vampire lord ability.

Less work

This scene should have been included. Harkon: "Immortal Blood, great book, earns lots of septims and is filles with lies and half-truths about us while giving away the secrets of some of the moreprominent thin-blood clans." If its only in-accurate towards Volkihar's then obviously it was a Volkihar who wrote it.

Aside from a different set of powers?

A Cyrodiilic Vamps wrote it, not a Volk

Prove it, A Cyrodiilic Vamp would not write down accurate information of his secretive order for the living to find. Provide one shred of evidence the author isn't a lying Volkihar. Or maybe its all a pack of lies by Movarth Piquine just to make himself famous.

I don't trust the word of a vampire especially when in the form of advice about vampires

The book told about more than just the Volkihar, why do people ignore simple facts right in front of them? You are just too much of a Beth F@nboy to admit they F*cked up. It didnt reveal anything about the Order, It said they were well hidden and it was PROVEN by the fact that Movarth could not find any

GUYS GUYS GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUYS

The book isn't official canon, its fictional also the whole "appearing in glaciers" was a nord legend which isn't surprising because nords always expand on the truth or just like to believe in fantasy like how they think blizzards and missing children are the fault of falmer spirits, that skyrim was their true ancestral home even before they did their genocide on the snow elves, all elves are evil and trying to kill off the human races and various other lies and fantasies. Nord legends shouldn't really be taken with even a grain of salt.



The other clans don't like each other, hell the Morrowind vampire clans are constantly at war with each other also theres no evidence that this book has any truth too it and if you say "well Movarth is in skyrim" then you are still wrong because we don't even know if its the same person especially since Movarth doesn't have his last name and the fact that there are no references to the book nor does he confirm it in-game.