1.Attributes are redundant, and perks are harder to choose than what attributes to increase.
2.You start as a nobody and make your own class now.
3.^
4.They are still in-game.
5.There is weapon deterioration, just can't go below 100% anymore.
6.Useless and underused weapons.
7.Spell making was boring and limited the magic system.
8.Why do you care to name a potion, you drink it and its gone.
9.Medium armor was redistributed.I don't know why you would want medium armor anyway.
10.Perks in the heavy armor tree.
11.Why would you want to wear no armor.
12.Acrobatics made people jump everywhere.
13.Athletics was a boring and useless skill.
14.Mysticism was cut so there were 6 skills in each archtype, the spells are in-game still.
15.No difference.


Seems to me your scared of change.

The problem is youre thread title calls the game I'm enjoying immensely an insult to intelligence based soley off your opinion what kind if response were you expecting?

all of your complaints was addressed here on the forum, instead of creating this topic you could just have used the search option.

Ha yeah. The bolded specifics are all the really small aspects of the game which shouldn't affect your enjoyment in any way whatsoever. Seriously. Hey Skyrim doesn't have a lightsaber skill. Now no star wars nerds will be able to enjoy it.

Your argument isn't at all well constructed. You appear worse than the people who say cool story bro. Their disgust and indifference towards your story is actually completely valid. You are just another ranter ranting about all the aspects of the game that have CHANGED from previous TES games, and so you don't like the game because you can't handle change.

Grow up. An argument doesn't result in two parties insulting each other because they don't share the others opinion.

Oh - and classes are very clearly still in game.

Take note people, this tells you everything you need to know about the OP. Self opinionated would be an understatement.

Okay so I'm dealing with people that can't fight properly. That's not my problem. I may use inflammatory language but I explain myself fully. That is what sets me apart from those types of idiots.

ITT people try to bludgeon the light king with caveman smack talk because they can't handle the truth. Of course I'm self opinionated, you wretch. I'm not DarkZenith opionated, am I.

I personally wish they had kept attributes unarmed, open lock spells, athletic/acrobatics as a combined skill.

it also would have been nice to keep many of the old spells from the previous games.

also I loved morrowind it never seemed convoluted but whatever thats me

Fight? Why do you want to fight on a forum? Again, you are making yourself look like a troll, whether that is your intention or not.


One question, who's truth would that be exactly?

I have to agree with this.

Unfortunately.

Well, the only person I'm seeing throw thoughtless insults about is the thread starter, who seems to be deluded into believing himself some sort of http://xkcd.com/610/.

Want to know a dirty little secret? Everyone in the world is a thinking, rational entity capable and constantly making decisions of their own. You are not above anyone else in the strength, validity, and reasoning of your opinion.

And the reason people are reacting the way they are toward your opinion that "It's Bad" is similar to the reaction Jack Thompson's "Video Games Cause Violence" argument recieves.

Why even bother posting if you dislike the game so much? Not only that, but you've stuck around to continue posting...

Skyrim can be described in just one word MASTERPIECE!

And yet those arguing with him continue to use the term 'bro'. Lending weight to his argument.

+50 internets. I salute you.

The things you said are not true. The way you said it was extremely overly dramatic. You are an attention seeking troll. Nothing more, nothing less.

Kid your overeating so much. It is a different game it isn't going to be exactly the same as morrowind. If they made it so each game was same system with better graphics and slightly different writing then it would not be as interesting. Oblivivon was very different from Morrowind but i still enjoyed it just as much. If you stop thinking of it as Morrowind 2.0 then maybe you might actually enjoy the game.,

I suspect they are doing so in jest, since the OP appears to hate popular internet memes and catchphrases.

*sniffsniff* Smells like a Troll in disguise~

My insults are not thoughtless. They are all backed up by opinion and reasoning. Of course I'm an objectivist hero. Why on earth would I ever cling to an opinion that I thought could be wrong? Silly. Everything that I stated is true. All of those features have been removed. Removing those features means the game is a lot more simple. It means the game is a lot more accessible to most people. When you target "most people" you need to pander to the lowest common denominator. It's all "good" business. Now whether you think that makes the game worse, better, whatever, that's your opinion. Obviously I think it makes it worse. But don't come at me with that pseudo-philosophic "everything is subjective" bull crap. I'm not floating around in some airy fairy hippie reserve giving everybody a chance to express themselves and claim just as much validity.

Last point? Jack Thompson is wrong. Read my earlier sentence. I am right.

isn't it obvious, the purpose of this thread now is merely to be a flame war. he's an unabashed hypocrite, and the other members of this thread realize this.

they're getting his goat because they're pissed at his own rudeness and he's too riled up and blinded by his intolerance to realize this.

Cool story bro, needs more dragons.

If I shut my eyes I wouldn't get the lovely graphics would I? Just saying I can do without the stats. Far Cry 2, for all it's faults, gave an immersive experience in that respect. I play Oblivion and Morrowind without one eye on my attribute sheet all the time and get along just fine. No need to get smarmy.

You are wrong. We are right.

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